Jack Grealish

[Klinsmannesque]

Part of me hopes we end the window only bringing in Hegazi Grealish and Rondon because judging by the way people are reacting over this, it would just be lol.

Do we need a backup to Eriksen. Yes.

Should we spend £60-£80m on that backup. No.

Will Grealish be a player happy to accept being that backup. Yes

Is Grealish a player with a reasonable potential ceiling, HG and attainable for probably a below market value. Yes

Now pick up your dummies, put them back in the pram and get behind what is clearly a target for the manager.

 

[EJWTartanSpur]

Doesn't mean much of anything to me. They're a championship club, its not like we're stealing Schalkes best player or something like that. We should be fishing in bigger ponds. Or skipping out on this fishing trip all together.

I actually think you’ve raised some fair and salient points in your 492 posts across this thread and the ITK one, but it’s ignorant nonsense like what you’ve posted above that is drawing people’s ire I’d guess.

That, alongside a far too rigid and linear thought process on how football transfer budgets work.

 

[werty]

Part of me hopes we end the window only bringing in Hegazi Grealish and Rondon because judging by the way people are reacting over this, it would just be lol.

Do we need a backup to Eriksen. Yes.

Should we spend £60-£80m on that backup. No.

Will Grealish be a player happy to accept being that backup. Yes

Is Grealish a player with a reasonable potential ceiling, HG and attainable for probably a below market value. Yes

Now pick up your dummies, put them back in the pram and get behind what is clearly a target for the manager.

Why does the £60-£80m player have to be soley a back-up to Eriksen? Why can't he play with him as well?

 

[aussiespursguy]

baggins on coys, more than 14 000 post and i dont think a bullshitter: My son, who works for Bet Fred, has just called me and said that one of his colleagues has a contact who works at Spurs and has told him that Grealish has an "appointment" at Spurs tomorrow. Appointment might be a chat with Poch and a look round the training centre or it might be a medical, my son didn't find out. He did say that the odds on him joining Spurs have dropped from 9/1 to Evens though. Just thought I would pass it on with all the Grealish info floating around at the moment.

posting it here as im unsure of the validity

Ahhh..Aqua ITK...

 

[0-Tibsy-0]

1:36 - 1:48

Should have squared it..

 

[Klinsmannesque]

Why does the £60-£80m player have to be soley a back-up to Eriksen? Why can't he play with him as well?

Because we have Son / Moura / Dele / Eriksen / Lamela already, whoever we bring in needs the skill sets to go some way to covering Eriksen when he’s out as that’s where we feel it most. The others to a degree we can replace and not see such a drop.

Then you have game time. Grealish will accept he’s not part of the ‘first choice’ group more than most others we can target for that role because if we bring in a big player that can play with Eriksen for that money then we have too many.

I still think Grealish and Martial in, Lamela out would be the best scenario. Martial will get game time as a WF / FWD so you throw another position into the mix

 

[Rosco1984]

From what I have seen with the ITK I actually think we are changing to 4-1-4-1 with for example Dele and Eriksen ahead of Dier or Wanyama and then two wider players. it would allow us to play Moura/Lamela on the right and Martial/Son on the left as well as keeping Dele and Eriksen in the side. Dele and Eriksen were Excellent at times last year when we played 5-3-2 and their role would be very similar in a 4-1-4-1 slightly deeper than in the usual way we play.

This would then make even more sense to have direct Eriksen cover i.e Grealish.

 

[dave5150]

Ahhh..Aqua ITK...

Grealish goodnight

 

[Spartan Spurs]

For those that have seen a lot more of Grealish than I, how is he off the ball & more precisely defensively?
Does he hunt the ball down? Does he track back well?
I've seen glimpses of it but looking for more confirmation.

In other words, does he pull his socks up when needed?

 

[dtxspurs]

Because we have Son / Moura / Dele / Eriksen / Lamela already, whoever we bring in needs the skill sets to go some way to covering Eriksen when he’s out as that’s where we feel it most. The others to a degree we can replace and not see such a drop.

Then you have game time. Grealish will accept he’s not part of the ‘first choice’ group more than most others we can target for that role because if we bring in a big player that can play with Eriksen for that money then we have too many.

I still think Grealish and Martial in, Lamela out would be the best scenario. Martial will get game time as a WF / FWD so you throw another position into the mix

If Lamela goes then I agree this would be a move we should make, but all we've been told is that Lamela is coming back.

 

[THFCjosh]

20mil in any climate is still significant to Tottenham whether you guys like to admit or not.

Not in the climate where we are doubling our matchday revenue, receiving £100m before we even kick a ball, not to mention the money we get from participating the CL. £20m to us isn't that much, to City it's nothing. That's the difference.

 

[Matthew]

want this to happen, just cos my brother is a gooner who despises grealish! would love him to pick out top bins in first NLD!

 

[tiger666]

If Lamela goes then I agree this would be a move we should make, but all we've been told is that Lamela is coming back.

He has two years left on his contract. We may be looking to sell in the near future.

 

[mattyspurs]

@dtxspurs is my new favourite poster. It used to be Yankspurs, but he became a bit too OTT

 

[werty]

Because we have Son / Moura / Dele / Eriksen / Lamela already, whoever we bring in needs the skill sets to go some way to covering Eriksen when he’s out as that’s where we feel it most. The others to a degree we can replace and not see such a drop.

Then you have game time. Grealish will accept he’s not part of the ‘first choice’ group more than most others we can target for that role because if we bring in a big player that can play with Eriksen for that money then we have too many.

I still think Grealish and Martial in, Lamela out would be the best scenario. Martial will get game time as a WF / FWD so you throw another position into the mix

Sorry, not really sure that you're saying.

In this hypothetically situation, this £60-£80m will both improve the first team and cover for Eriksen. Consider him an Eriksen clone. What's the problem with that?

 

[dtxspurs]

He has two years left on his contract. We may be looking to sell in the near future.

I reserve the right to be proven wrong by the player but I really think people forget how good Lamela can be.. If you don't like the player then we can agree to disagree but I've always had a soft spot for the guy and think he can offer a lot to the team. Like I was saying yesterday the guy was in the Argentina national team before his injury layoff and killing it for Spurs. This is the same guy who played Eriksen in to beat City, played the ball into Kane to go up on Chelsea when we were pushing for the title. The rabona goal, the hat trick against Monaco, hat trick against Leicester to secure third (I know one was an OG), etc. Lamela has special ability in his feet and needs a significant run in the team to prove that again to everyone.

 

[Trix]

Why does the £60-£80m player have to be soley a back-up to Eriksen? Why can't he play with him as well?

We are not spending 60-80 mil on a player. It just isn't going to happen.

 

[Klinsmannesque]

From what I have seen with the ITK I actually think we are changing to 4-1-4-1 with for example Dele and Eriksen ahead of Dier or Wanyama and then two wider players. it would allow us to play Moura/Lamela on the right and Martial/Son on the left as well as keeping Dele and Eriksen in the side. Dele and Eriksen were Excellent at times last year when we played 5-3-2 and their role would be very similar in a 4-1-4-1 slightly deeper than in the usual way we play.

This would then make even more sense to have direct Eriksen cover i.e Grealish.

I agree. Fully expect us to develop another system this season. We seem to add a new one every year - Poch always spoke about being able to change and adapt strategy, which lends itself to buying players fluid in a multiple of roles

 

[Klinsmannesque]

Sorry, not really sure that you're saying.

In this hypothetically situation, this £60-£80m will both improve the first team and cover for Eriksen. Consider him an Eriksen clone. What's the problem with that?

Because that then strips money from the overall budget that can be allocated elsewhere. Not to mention the wages that come with that profile of player. It's all bigger picture stuff and I think that's what most are either failing or just plainly don't want to see.

 

[Majick]

My point is I don't see when this guy is ever going to play, so its a waste of money.

Well, how about:

3-4 starts in the League Cup (assuming every match we play in it)
3-4 starts in the FA Cup (assuming another long run in it)
1-2 starts in the CL (any post qualification group matches, and maybe we'll get lucky in the knock outs)
3-4 starts in the PL against smaller clubs (as part of this summer's ITK-stated intention to mix things up in our attack and not just rely on Eriksen/Kane/Alli/Son in every match)

That's 10-14 matches right there, assuming a similar sort of season to the one just gone.

And then you have the significant (say 20+ minutes, this is Pochettino after all) sub appearances where we want to rest Eriksen/try something different. Probaly 10-15 of those across the season.

And that's not counting the times we may want him to start if Eriksen gets injured, which is something we've been very lucky with - didn't he only miss about 3 PL/CL games last season, and one of those was the last CL group game?

This reasoning could, of course, be applied to any player coming in to understudy for Eriksen. Grealish isn't unique and it may not be him, but whoever comes in will get match time because we simply can't rely on Eriksen to play in almost every match again, especially after a World Cup. Whoever that new player is, whether Grealish or whoever, if they impress with it, so much the better.