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gushayes11

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Can’t remember if someone said it but imo if we sell Sissoko and buy Grealish for roughly the same fee then the squad is improved. The bigger names will be coming, I’m sure.
 

Ron Burgundy

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This new ‘scapegoat’ stuff is nonsense isn’t it?

As far as I can tell, no one (reasonable) is going to do anything other than support him. The concern is only that ITK relating to higher profile targets is limited and the concern is that we won’t add resources in a crucial position because we get in there early with him

Seems like a good buy orherwise
 

Trix

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This new ‘scapegoat’ stuff is nonsense isn’t it?

As far as I can tell, no one (reasonable) is going to do anything other than support him. The concern is only that ITK relating to higher profile targets is limited and the concern is that we won’t add resources in a crucial position because we get in there early with him

Seems like a good buy orherwise


Perhaps that's because the higher profile targets need to be protected. Last thing we want is to encourage an early bidding war.
 

daveduvet

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Good footballer. Poch likes good footballers. Therefore, I want him.
I’m not turned by shiny toys; it’s not about individuals but the ‘whole’....think mr pink suggested as much... there’s too much focus on the finished ‘individual’. We don’t exist in that market, so our acceptance level needs to be at a lower peg. Regardless of early ITK I’m happy to see the progress we are making. We’re onto longer term solid based model; Chelsea are imploding as we’re building. ..
 

chinaman

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Good footballer. Poch likes good footballers. Therefore, I want him.
I’m not turned by shiny toys; it’s not about individuals but the ‘whole’....think mr pink suggested as much... there’s too much focus on the finished ‘individual’. We don’t exist in that market, so our acceptance level needs to be at a lower peg. Regardless of early ITK I’m happy to see the progress we are making. We’re onto longer term solid based model; Chelsea are imploding as we’re building. ..


That's very well said.
 

tierhause

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Just out of interest, and without a dog in the fight, who would people prefer that has the same skill set, positions, attainability and price?
 

Ghost Hardware

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Perhaps that's because the higher profile targets need to be protected. Last thing we want is to encourage an early bidding war.
But surely the agents of these targets will be shopping their clients around for the best deal the moment we, or any team, enquire? I’m not really sure how one can avoid a bidding war in this day and age. If your client is avalible then your job as an agent is to push him towards the most money + most playing time with the CL as a big bonus. Maybe the bidding war might not be in the public eye but it must go on all the time especially for bigger names players no?
 

Lighty64

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Nothing to do with an injury. Even if they both had the same stats per 90, a player doing it over a full season is a safer gamble than someone who played much fewer minutes. It can be dangerous to judge a player on half a season. It's too short a sample size. You don't know if it's true reflection on their ability. I listed a few players in the thread in Spurs Chat, and I'm sure there's hundreds more players, who were great for a few months in the Premier League then quickly turned to nobodies.

Grealish had a very good half to the season this year. He was average at best the previous year with similar minutes and wasn't very good in the Premier League, albeit it he was young and in a bad team.

just 3 things concerning Maddison, 1) I believe he did his cruciate in the final game, 2) Grealish literally carried Villa on his return from injury into the play-offs, yet Maddison did very little for a struggling Norwich, and 3) there is a chance the club know of the abuse he gave, Bale and Tottenham via twitter when he was younger, and that he might of chose Norwich over us when he joined from Coventry because he might of not wanted us, due to not liking us.
 

Trix

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But surely the agents of these targets will be shopping their clients around for the best deal the moment we, or any team, enquire? I’m not really sure how one can avoid a bidding war in this day and age. If your client is avalible then your job as an agent is to push him towards the most money + most playing time with the CL as a big bonus. Maybe the bidding war might not be in the public eye but it must go on all the time especially for bigger names players no?


The most important word in my post you were replying to.......EARLY.
 

Spartan Spurs

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Can’t remember if someone said it but imo if we sell Sissoko and buy Grealish for roughly the same fee then the squad is improved. The bigger names will be coming, I’m sure.


Levy being Levy, he will probably get £20M+ for N'Sissoko & get Grealishinho for £12M - £15M.
 

tierhause

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Firstly what position is he expected to play? Am? Cm?

That's a question only the coaching staff can answer.

I have only seen a small amount of him. However from what I have seen and read he seems able to play as an am as well as deeper. He seems adept at picking the ball up in tight spaces, getting away from the opposition and releasing. He also seems to have short and long passes on his locker, but rarely the final ball before a chance on goal.
From what I have seen he likes to tackle but doesn't like people challenging him.

But as I say I have not seen a great deal of him, and so am interested who else may be available with similar attributes. It seems that poch would like a player with these abilities to deputise eriksen and possibly replace dembele.
 

Spurslove

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His stats per 90 minutes is what I meant. And the fact he (Grealish) only played half a season should work against him

I'm sure you didn't mean it to be, but that's very harsh. The boy was injured for much of the last season, it's not as if he could have changed the situation, as much as he's have liked to. When he did play (21 times apparently), he was Villa's best man on the pitch. They looked like a much more positive outfit when he was in the side.

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Lilbaz

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That's a question only the coaching staff can answer.

I have only seen a small amount of him. However from what I have seen and read he seems able to play as an am as well as deeper. He seems adept at picking the ball up in tight spaces, getting away from the opposition and releasing. He also seems to have short and long passes on his locker, but rarely the final ball before a chance on goal.
From what I have seen he likes to tackle but doesn't like people challenging him.

But as I say I have not seen a great deal of him, and so am interested who else may be available with similar attributes. It seems that poch would like a player with these abilities to deputise eriksen and possibly replace dembele.

Possibly what we wanted barkley for.

I don't watch that many non spurs games these days. But if there is a young xabi alonso floating about i'd take him in a heartbeat. Not really an eriksen replacement but would control the game. Modric would be great for a season or two.
 

lukadownthelane

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We also need more homegrown players in the squad so swapping him for Sissoko would allow us to buy a top foreign player.
 

werty

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just 3 things concerning Maddison, 1) I believe he did his cruciate in the final game, 2) Grealish literally carried Villa on his return from injury into the play-offs, yet Maddison did very little for a struggling Norwich, and 3) there is a chance the club know of the abuse he gave, Bale and Tottenham via twitter when he was younger, and that he might of chose Norwich over us when he joined from Coventry because he might of not wanted us, due to not liking us.
1) I didn't know. Doesn't make his season any less impressive.
2) He didn't really. Villa were 5th when he made his first start and finished a distant 4th. They didn't go from a mid table team to just missing out on automatic promotion. Maddison did more in a much worse side, statistically anyway.
3) I don't know of his comment, but I don't really care what someone said about us when they were young and I definitely don't care if they turned us down before.

Again, I'm not advocating us signing him. I'm just giving an argument why some might prefer him over Grealish. Back in January most on here wanted him, and I bet if you brought up Grealish's name as an alternative back then most would have chosen Maddison. But now the situation's have flipped because we're after Grealish instead.
 
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