Jack Grealish

[the lad]

Forget Jack Grealish.I see Max Mayer is still without a club, we should go hard or go home for him IMO. Ah but he is not HG and unattached with no club for Levy to delight in pissing off. So no point, stick with what we got, that’s the way we roll.

 

[scottlag10]

Or Villa dragged it on for so long because they knew they were working on getting fresh investment? Like, seriously, do you think Villa only started negotiating a multi billion pound investment deal yesterday morning?

Like seriously never heard any evidence that Levy has low ballad clubs in the first instance pissing them off and as a result at best has slowed down the whole process? But they didn't have fresh investment waiting in the wings!

 

[ToDarrenIsToDo]

It could all just be putting pressure on Levy to pull the trigger faster too

As we've seen with Poch, Mourinho, and others, managers know how to manipulate the media and hopefully that's the case

I was thinking same thing.

Takeover makes people think they're OK but still not. Use the PR of a takeover to say that things are OK now and they are less on their knees. Make teams like us say oh fuck here's an extra £5m and in doing so generate more, albeit fabricated muscle in the board room for gullible chairman of clubs interested in their players to stump up more cash.

This could all be a plot that Villa are using and Bruce is being told to push to scare the vultures Bruce is speaking of to throw a bit more money their way. Afterall if this takeover was able to legally rid them of their debts seeing as they're Billionaires, why would Bruce say that paying teams still need to pay a premium? Surely if there problems are solved none of their players need to leave anymore.

I doubt it but this could all be one masterful PR stunt to get Tottenham to stump up as close to the minimum they need, as well as turn a £5m offer for Chester into a £10m offer and so forth. It would be a risk but with a couple of weeks to go and the door open to use this takeover news as a bit of PR it could all be campaign to bluff. It would make sense to do so if the takeover are restricted in how much they can help with the FFP situ

 

[spursfan77]

Bruce's comments make for really grim reading. Really hope the ITK is on regarding Grealish being virtually done

He wouldn’t have played for them in a friendly today if it was virtually done.

 

[Trix]

They can say what they like they still have to sell players regardless of how much money is being brought into the club from investors.

 

[Lilbaz]

Forget Jack Grealish.I see Max Mayer is still without a club, we should go hard or go home for him IMO. Ah but he is not HG and unattached with no club for Levy to delight in pissing off. So no point, stick with what we got, that’s the way we roll.

Is it? When was the last summer transfer window we didn't sign anyone?

 

[SpursJord]

The investors can't change how the FFP works can they? It's only club income that counts so having them wouldn't stop it, as any invested money doesn't go towards it right?

 

[George94]

They can say what they like they still have to sell players regardless of how much money is being brought into the club from investors.

Not saying that they now don’t need to sell, but Steve Bruce was essentially saying they won’t be held to ransom and forced into selling cheap now and will demand a premium ... unless he has no idea what he’s talking about, it sounds like the goalposts have been moved?

 

[VegasII]

I'm yet to be convinced whether Bruce could manipulate his way out of an empty baked bean can.

Or even his way in to begin with.

 

[neogenisis]

Forget Jack Grealish.I see Max Mayer is still without a club, we should go hard or go home for him IMO. Ah but he is not HG and unattached with no club for Levy to delight in pissing off. So no point, stick with what we got, that’s the way we roll.

He is without a club because no one will pay his 8mill a year wages.

 

[Thewobbler]

He is without a club because no one will pay his 8mill a year wages.

He will soon realise no one will pay near that and have to take lower.

 

[Thewobbler]

Not saying that they don’t need to sell still, but Steve Bruce was essentially saying they won’t be held to ransom and forced into selling cheap now and will demand a premium ... unless he has no idea what he’s talking about, it sounds like the goalposts have been moved?

It looks like we are either going to have to up our bid or move on. Its dragged on far to long.

 

[Ghost Hardware]

Personally I reckon we will get him for around 30 rising to near 40 mil with add ons. We need more HG players but we don't really need an AMC. I do think getting him is a gamble. For 25 mil it is one worth taking but if it goes near 40 then my opinion changes. But it seems we may be in a little bit of a pickle with certain targets, namely WF, so that might bring Levy to pay a little bit extra for JG just to get something done and dusted. If we ended up without JG it wouldn't really bother me, nor would missing out on Zaha. But missing both of those two might exasperate Poch and that would be bad. And I'm sure Levy is aware of that. The only thing really worrying me is the CM situation, but that's not for this thread.

 

[ToDarrenIsToDo]

The investors can't change how the FFP works can they? It's only club income that counts so having them wouldn't stop it, as any invested money doesn't go towards it right?

The only thing I've read about that they can play a part in is profit being made by the club. It's all about the balancing of books not just what the owners worth.

I'm guessing that the areas they could find loopholes in are Sponsorship of the club via shirts or the stadium etc or asset sales and seeing as they've already agreed a deal with 32Red this year, the shirt sponsor loophole looks out of the equation. Not an expert on it but that's how it seems when I've looked into FFP

 

[PhezTHFC]

Why do People believe always the negative ffs. Whybwoukd Bruce say yeah Grealish is off but he is playing to keep fit or some other speil. No manager would unless it's 100% he is gone.

 

[Legacy]

Like seriously never heard any evidence that Levy has low ballad clubs in the first instance pissing them off and as a result at best has slowed down the whole process? But they didn't have fresh investment waiting in the wings!

Villa had fresh investment waiting in the wings. So what is your point?

 

[stonebrow]

hmmmm Bruce certainly doesn't make this sound like it is close, and if that is the case, Levy has certainly lost this battle....

If we pay 40m though for Grealish it would be seriously concerning, so if this deal is not agreed as Bruce suggests (and fact Grealish played today I cant believe it is as close as the ITK suggest) then looks like this will drag on..

Not sure what we are going to end up with this summer, seeing Richarlison going for 50m, this is not Levy market - he is well out his league now with transfers IMO

Levy needs to move with the times

 

[Trix]

Not saying that they now don’t need to sell, but Steve Bruce was essentially saying they won’t be held to ransom and forced into selling cheap now and will demand a premium ... unless he has no idea what he’s talking about, it sounds like the goalposts have been moved?

They have to sell regardless. They hold out for the £40mil and nobody takes they are in trouble.

 

[ToDarrenIsToDo]

They have to sell regardless. They hold out for the £40mil and nobody takes they are in trouble.

I saw that they need to supply evidence of the payment by March. Any truth in that? If so couldn't they wait until the last week of the window and if nothing happens take their chances with the January window?

 

[leelee]

They need to sell for FFP, no? This incoming investment doesn't have any relevance to FFP.