Jadon Sancho

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This one has me confused... He had not yet signed a pro contract with City - hence we could simply of signed him up on a contract and a compensatory fee would have been decided at later date by an impartial tribunal.

If he signed a pro-contract with another club, he would no longer be a 'City Apprentice' and City would have no say on where he played his trade going forward.

Bearing in mind the above... how is it being reported that City "prevented" him from holding contrat talks with PL rivals?

Surely it was the lad's choice to go to Dortmund rather than further any potential options at PL clubs - simple as that no?
 

yanno

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This one has me confused... He had not yet signed a pro contract with City - hence we could simply of singed him on a contract and the fee would have been decided by a tribunal.

If he singed pro-contract with another club, he would no longer be a City Apprentice and City would have no say on where he played his trade going forward.

Bearing in mind the above, how is it being reported that City "prevented" him from holding contra talks with PL rivals? Surely that contravenes all kinds of EU employment laws regarding free movement of workers?

Surely it was the lad's choice to go to Dortmund rather than further any potential options at PL clubs - simple as that no?
Employment law doesn't seem to apply to rich folk like Shitty & their owners, just like FFP doesn't seem to apply to PSG & their owners....
 

goughie1966

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Really, as much as this makes me hate City more, really we had the ball in our court when they wanted Walker and we fumbled it. We should have insisted. I can only assume it's because Poch really wanted him gone that we didn't stick to our guns. Ether way, it's a big fuck up. TBH, if we where City and the situation was reversed, we would probably rather sell abroad.
I read earlier itk that it wasn't even an option at the time as he had no plans to leave. It all blew up after we had sold Walker I thought. We were just unlucky with the timing.
 

Lilbaz

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So homesick kid goes to germany? Fuck off.
If he wants playing time then go to asmaller team.

Nothing to do with the fact that the fa banned agents from receiving a fee for transfers in england.

Good luck to the lad. He played the game with some mega rich clubs, hope it works out for him.
 
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Employment law doesn't seem to apply to rich folk like Shitty & their owners, just like FFP doesn't seem to apply to PSG & their owners....
My question is "what exactly could City do to stop Sancho talking to us & signing a 1st pro contract?" I'm thinking he clearly had no desire to come to Spurs, as there was nothing City could have done to stop him from doing so, if he wanted to sign for us, he could have, whether City liked it or not... Unless I'm missing something??
 

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My question is "what exactly could City do to stop Sancho talking to us & signing a 1st pro contract?" I'm thinking he clearly had no desire to come to Spurs, as there was nothing City could have done to stop him from doing so, if he wanted to sign for us, he could have, whether City liked it or not... Unless I'm missing something??
It seems they could have prevented him from playing competitive football for a year by refusing to cancel his scholarship deal.
 

coys200

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The Guardian is reporting the fee paid by Dortmund as £8 million, and there may be clauses too.

No way is this a Fryers situation. Sancho is gone, and his homesickness for London is likely to continue for quite some time now....

https://www.theguardian.com/football/2017/aug/31/jadon-sancho-borussia-dortmund-manchester-city
Not sure why you think that .City didn't want to go to an English club,so common sense would be go abroad for a year,then can have his pick back here.Dortmund are Essentially a selling club.Tenner says will be back in England next summer.
 

Lilbaz

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My question is "what exactly could City do to stop Sancho talking to us & signing a 1st pro contract?" I'm thinking he clearly had no desire to come to Spurs, as there was nothing City could have done to stop him from doing so, if he wanted to sign for us, he could have, whether City liked it or not... Unless I'm missing something??
He couldn't play for us till his city contract expired without their permission.
 

yanno

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Not sure why you think that .City didn't want to go to an English club,so common sense would be go abroad for a year,then can have his pick back here.Dortmund are Essentially a selling club.Tenner says will be back in England next summer.
Dortmund paid £8-10 million, probably with sell on clauses. So an English club would have to pay double that next year for Dortmund to get their money back and make a profit.

If Sancho plays well enough to be worth £20 million next summer, Dortmund could easily decide to wait another year and watch his value rise.
 

worcestersauce

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The sad thing is that the rules were brought in to protect smaller lower league clubs from rich sods like City just pinching their youngsters, it wasn't meant to work this way down.
As for Sancho wanting come to us, I'm not sure that was his idea, he just wanted away from City so that he had a chance to play and following on from that we were a good option, maybe his best for a while but I don't know that he was ever desperate to come to us.
To be honest in that case a move to a club like Dortmund is a bit of a no brainer and he will get the chance to play, not what we wanted but we can't say it's a bad move for him.
 

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Dortmund paid £8-10 million, probably with sell on clauses. So an English club would have to pay double that next year for Dortmund to get their money back and make a profit.

If Sancho plays well enough to be worth £20 million next summer, Dortmund could easily decide to wait another year and watch his value rise.
Doubt he'll play enough to increase his value that much.
 

yanno

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Doubt he'll play enough to increase his value that much.
You may be correct. We shall see.

But the bottom line is that Dortmund paid £8-10 milllion, and Shitty are likely to have insisted on a hefty sell on clause, say 20%. So, even if this was a "Fryers deal", an English club would have to pay nearly £15 million for Dortmund even to make a profit, and I suspect they'd want a significant profit, hence my £20 million figure.
 
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