Jake Livermore: 'I want to stay at Hull City.'

[mawspurs]

Hull City loan star Jake Livermore is nearing the end of a strong season on loan from parent club Tottenham Hotspur.

Read the full article at Hull Daily Mail

 

[thinktank]

Sweet.

 

[eddiebailey]

Some very interesting comments about what a waste of time it was for him to go on loan in the Championship and how the only person whoever showed any faith in him was Tim.

Fans have written Livermore off at every stage of his career, myself included, but I have come to understand what Tim saw in him.

There are few midfielders with such a complete skill set; anything you want a midfielder to do, Jake can do it, not exceptionally well, but well enough. And he has passion; he is never going to let you down for lack of heart.

He might not ever be a world-beater, but he is an incredibly reliable cog in a machine that can be set up to let more talented players shine.

In a central midfield two I would have picked him over any of our players this season.

 

[WhiteHeartLowe]

I for one wont miss him.

 

[Geyzer Soze]

I think it's a damn shame. Not only a spurs player but a spurs fan too & that counts for something

 

[Gaz_Gammon]

“Of course I’d like to stay"

By my guest. He would still struggle to get into our first team, that's possibly why he's figuring to stay at Hull Tigers.

 

[whitesocks]

That is the most pro sherwood opinion I've read for a while.

Sherwood might not be be very likeable, but he does believe in promoting the younger players and has put this into practice.

Only Livermore has the freedom to express this as he knows he is as good as sold. Other players are not going to align themselves with a walking dead manager, or they'd find themselves out the door next.
(Which is what Livermore wants anyway).

 

[$hoguN]

Good. Stay at Hull please Jake as you are nowhere near good enough to be playing for a side with top 4 ambitions

 

[davidmatzdorf]

That is the most pro sherwood opinion I've read for a while.

Sherwood might not be be very likeable, but he does believe in promoting the younger players and has put this into practice.

I don't think anyone in their right mind, no matter how angry they have permitted themselves to become during Sherwood's noisy tenure this season, would deny that he's done a fantastic job with our youth players. They all have glowing accounts of his influence and Sherwood has shown exactly the sort of confident, intuitive understanding of when to promote a young player (Kane, Bentaleb) that he has lacked in handling the more senior players.

Our youth system is in a better state than it has been in living memory and it's baldly obvious that Sherwood's was the hand at the helm.

As for Livermore, he's a prime example: a player of solid, broad-based talent, but without one specifically exceptional skill, such as pace, power or tricks - and also a relatively late developer. A lot of such players get sidelined into the lower divisions, but Livermore is obviously a Premiership-quality midfielder. He was with us and he and Huddlestone are the two main reasons Hull have had such a stress-free first season back in the Premiership. I've watched Hull quite a bit this season, mainly because I like watching Hudd play football, and his balanced working relationship with Livermore was the heart of everything they did.

 

[Kiedis]

He's found his level. Good for him, and it'll make us a nice sum.

Should get a good reception at the Lane.

 

[whitesocks]

I don't think anyone in their right mind, no matter how angry they have permitted themselves to become during Sherwood's noisy tenure this season, would deny that he's done a fantastic job with our youth players. They all have glowing accounts of his influence and Sherwood has shown exactly the sort of confident, intuitive understanding of when to promote a young player (Kane, Bentaleb) that he has lacked in handling the more senior players.

Our youth system is in a better state than it has been in living memory and it's baldly obvious that Sherwood's was the hand at the helm.
...

I wasn't sure if you were serious, given the hatred this guy attracts.
I too admire Sherwood's resolve to stick to his philosophy of bringing through players , and this has been a high light of a very poor season

But he made the wrong decision with sticking with Rose at LB, even when I'm sure he would have been given loan options in jan by Baldini.
And if by some dark magic/blackmail/poisonings he remains as our manager next season, then unfortunately I feel he would continue to play Rose. It's as if he refuses to accept that he got it wrong.

I'm sure his spiritual leader Harry would advise him that principles and loyalty are all very well, but a manager needs to look after himself as no 1 priority and if an idea does not work or look like it will work soon, then you need to think again very quickly.

That is the lesson that Sherwood should take away with him.
That and the £2million (or whatever) payoff.

 

[Spurger King]

What a coincidence. I want you to stay at Hull as well.

 

[Spurger King]

@davidmatzdorf what's your problem with that statement? He's done well at Hull, but had mixed performances at best for us. Happy to see him establish himself as a Prem footballer, but I wouldn't have him over any of our CMs.

For someone who presumably considers themselves to be articulate, you revert to the childish rating system more than any other poster on here.

 

[davidmatzdorf]

@davidmatzdorf what's your problem with that statement? He's done well at Hull, but had mixed performances at best for us. Happy to see him establish himself as a Prem footballer, but I wouldn't have him over any of our CMs.

We've had this discussion already. The comment was a snide pop at one of our players and didn't have any content. Whenever I see one of those, it gets a dislike.

If people want to use a forum just as an excuse to blow off their malign feelings in public, then that's their right - and I have a right to dislike that kind of behaviour. I find that using the ratings system, in place of sarcasm and rudeness, saves me a lot of pointless online rows.

I can think of a few of our midfielders whom he could out-perform, but I won't be upset if Livermore stays at Hull. He'll have a good career, thanks to our youth system and his own hard work.

 

[Spurger King]

I find that using the ratings system, in place of sarcasm and rudeness, saves me a lot of pointless online rows.

Yet you've had more online rows as a result of your abrasive nature and use of the rating system than any other poster on this forum...

 

[davidmatzdorf]

Yet you've had more online rows as a result of your abrasive nature and use of the rating system than any other poster on this forum...

Far fewer since I started using the rating system instead of sarcasm.

I have a very harsh disrespect for many people here, that's no secret. It wasn't effective arguing every bloody instance of people being vicious, but I don't want ignore it, so using the ratings system is a compromise that suits me.

 

[newbie]

I wasn't sure if you were serious, given the hatred this guy attracts.
I too admire Sherwood's resolve to stick to his philosophy of bringing through players , and this has been a high light of a very poor season

But he made the wrong decision with sticking with Rose at LB, even when I'm sure he would have been given loan options in jan by Baldini.
And if by some dark magic/blackmail/poisonings he remains as our manager next season, then unfortunately I feel he would continue to play Rose. It's as if he refuses to accept that he got it wrong.

I'm sure his spiritual leader Harry would advise him that principles and loyalty are all very well, but a manager needs to look after himself as no 1 priority and if an idea does not work or look like it will work soon, then you need to think again very quickly.

That is the lesson that Sherwood should take away with him.
That and the £2million (or whatever) payoff.

You praise Sherwood for bringing though youth players then have a pop over rose, fair enough rose has been poor (Altough till his injury I think he played well) but saying Sherwood had fB offering him options and that he had other options is pure speculation.

I don't think any of our defenders have covered themselves in glory this year.

 

[Japhet]

I don't think anyone in their right mind, no matter how angry they have permitted themselves to become during Sherwood's noisy tenure this season, would deny that he's done a fantastic job with our youth players. They all have glowing accounts of his influence and Sherwood has shown exactly the sort of confident, intuitive understanding of when to promote a young player (Kane, Bentaleb) that he has lacked in handling the more senior players.

Our youth system is in a better state than it has been in living memory and it's baldly obvious that Sherwood's was the hand at the helm.

As for Livermore, he's a prime example: a player of solid, broad-based talent, but without one specifically exceptional skill, such as pace, power or tricks - and also a relatively late developer. A lot of such players get sidelined into the lower divisions, but Livermore is obviously a Premiership-quality midfielder. He was with us and he and Huddlestone are the two main reasons Hull have had such a stress-free first season back in the Premiership. I've watched Hull quite a bit this season, mainly because I like watching Hudd play football, and his balanced working relationship with Livermore was the heart of everything they did.

That's where Sherwood should have stayed and it's a shame if we lose this. However, the writing was on the wall when he started saying the only way he would stay as Manager was if he had complete control over the whole set up including transfers, (shudder at the thought).

 

[whitesocks]

You praise Sherwood for bringing though youth players then have a pop over rose, fair enough rose has been poor (Altough till his injury I think he played well) but saying Sherwood had fB offering him options and that he had other options is pure speculation.

I don't think any of our defenders have covered themselves in glory this year.

Yes it is ironic that a manager considered so self serving and evil, has let himself down by being loyal and sticking to very noble principles.
But getting yourself sacked does none of the young players any good.
The next manager might not give any of them a look in.

He should have compromised and pushed for a LB upgrade in jan.
I cannot believe that it was not blatantly obvious to Baldini.

Having said that we would have needed 80 points for CL this year.
He did not stand a chance, as it turned out.

 

[newbie]

To be fair though I don't think rose had a bad first half of the season I don't remember before his injury thinking he was bad though.

Agreed a left back would have helped him but a commanding center back would have been handy.