James Maddison

[TheAmerican]

Was he playing when Grant Ward had his loan spell there last year? I don't remember him particularly standing out as better than Ward if so.

Seems like he broke into the team towards the end of the season.

http://www.coventrytelegraph.net/sp...majority-coventry-city-supporters-say-9241106

Coventry City starlet James Maddison has been linked with a summer switch to the Premier League with both Manchester United and Tottenham Hostpur tracking the 18-year-old, according to national press reports.

Maddison, who has made 18 appearances for the Sky Blues, netted his second professional goal in the 2-1 victory over Crawley Town on the final day of the season.

He had enjoyed a breakthrough end of the campaign in Tony Mowbray's side and City fans are looking forward to seeing much more from the talented Cov Kid next term.

Despite this, newspaper gossip is likely to continue throughout the summer with the club bracing itself for bids when the transfer window opens in July.

We asked Sky Blues supporters how much they valued the youngster should City decide to cash-in this summer with more than half voting valuing him at more than £3million - the amount City received for Callum Wilson nearly 12 months ago.

 

[TheAmerican]

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David Pleat at the Ricoh watching Maddison against Walsall


“I think Premier League clubs who would be interested in James Maddison would agree – I’m pretty sure, in my mind, he’s not ready to go and play in the Premier League. Having only played 15 games in League One it’s a huge, huge jump both physically and technically.”

Spurs have shown the most visible interest in the Cov Kid with scouting advisor David Pleat a regular at the Ricoh.
And Maddison was mentioned in Wednesday night’s televised FA Cup game between Leicester City and Tottenham during the BBC’s live commentary, in which Jonathan Pearce suggested the Sky Blues were holding out to see what other clubs would be prepared to offer, saying: “Spurs are reportedly interested in the Coventry teenager James Maddison but I think Coventry will wait to see if there’s anyone else interested before they sell.”

That clearly riled Mowbray, who said: “It’s not about us trying to create any sort of auction or whatever for a young boy. He’s someone we all care about and want to do well for us.

“We talk on a regular basis to lots of clubs, particularly the ones we’ve taken loans from and yet every club in the Premier League is aware of every talented footballer, not just James Maddison; every footballer in every team that has talent to play at a higher level, but formal bids or formal inquiries for any of our players? No.”

 

[Tom Pops]

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David Pleat at the Ricoh watching Maddison against Walsall


“I think Premier League clubs who would be interested in James Maddison would agree – I’m pretty sure, in my mind, he’s not ready to go and play in the Premier League. Having only played 15 games in League One it’s a huge, huge jump both physically and technically.”

Spurs have shown the most visible interest in the Cov Kid with scouting advisor David Pleat a regular at the Ricoh.
And Maddison was mentioned in Wednesday night’s televised FA Cup game between Leicester City and Tottenham during the BBC’s live commentary, in which Jonathan Pearce suggested the Sky Blues were holding out to see what other clubs would be prepared to offer, saying: “Spurs are reportedly interested in the Coventry teenager James Maddison but I think Coventry will wait to see if there’s anyone else interested before they sell.”

That clearly riled Mowbray, who said: “It’s not about us trying to create any sort of auction or whatever for a young boy. He’s someone we all care about and want to do well for us.

“We talk on a regular basis to lots of clubs, particularly the ones we’ve taken loans from and yet every club in the Premier League is aware of every talented footballer, not just James Maddison; every footballer in every team that has talent to play at a higher level, but formal bids or formal inquiries for any of our players? No.”

That's also Rob Mackenzie sitting next to him as well, isn't it?

 

[Shadydan]

If only that were true, the less player to coach ratio, the higher the quality in training time and the higher the number of players to available game time ratio, the less time available for players to develop.

I don't think that is how it works somehow, I think clubs with higher quality players tend to raise the bar for other players to fight for their first team place and rules out any complacency.

 

[spurs9]

I don't think that is how it works somehow, I think clubs with higher quality players tend to raise the bar for other players to fight for their first team place and rules out any complacency.

There is a reason why clubs have a maximum intake of 15 players per year and a reason we usually limit ours to 13 (those numbers could be off by 1 or 2, I can't remember them exactly).

 

[Sloop]

He looks like a tidy little player, but we have Marcus Edwards up & coming, who plays in similar attacking position. I'd rather see Marcus Edwards given a chance than spend 5 million on another prospect.

Marcus Edwards is two years younger though - he's 17 and James Maddison is 19.

 

[Shadydan]

There is a reason why clubs have a maximum intake of 15 players per year and a reason we usually limit ours to 13 (those numbers could be off by 1 or 2, I can't remember them exactly).

And...?

 

[allpaths]

I'd never be against these type's of signings, but this just seems redundant, And I don't think collecting as much talent as possible is the best way of developing players, it changes the process into a cold business were the club doesn't have a sincere concern about an individual's well being. Players like Onomah, winks and edwards need to feel that the club wants to see them become first teamers, signing another young talented mf in their age group may deter them.

Would absolutely love it if we could dig up a striker like this.

 

[Luka Van der Bale]

There is a reason why clubs have a maximum intake of 15 players per year and a reason we usually limit ours to 13 (those numbers could be off by 1 or 2, I can't remember them exactly).

The kid is 19 and has over 20 league appearances. He isn't going to be relevant to our youth sides. This is the same as when everyone said signing Alli would ruin Onomah's chances of making it. If we have a truly outstanding talent they will break through. Watching videos, Maddison looks like a phenomenal talent, and if we could get him we'd be fools not to.

 

[spurs9]

The kid is 19 and has over 20 league appearances. He isn't going to be relevant to our youth sides. This is the same as when everyone said signing Alli would ruin Onomah's chances of making it. If we have a truly outstanding talent they will break through. Watching videos, Maddison looks like a phenomenal talent, and if we could get him we'd be fools not to.

I never said he would be going into our youth team, my point was, the more players you have for each position, the more it negatively affects their development, rather than positively, due to having more competition.

If he were to arrive here, he would probably have Eriksen, Pritchard, Chadli, Son, Lamela, Dembele, Njie & Onomah ahead of him, we could send him out on loan for a year or two, but by the time he comes back, Oduwa, Edwards or Shashoua might be ready. Remember Pritchard was more impressive in that league when he was just 6 month older and they look very similar types of player.

Onomah has been played out of position and has only been able to get game time due to injuries to Pritchard, Njie, Bentaleb and Mason.

 

[Spursmad321]

That's also Rob Mackenzie sitting next to him as well, isn't it?

Yes it is.

 

[Davo99]

Wow. this kid looks really, really good.

 

[Shadydan]

The kid is 19 and has over 20 league appearances. He isn't going to be relevant to our youth sides. This is the same as when everyone said signing Alli would ruin Onomah's chances of making it. If we have a truly outstanding talent they will break through. Watching videos, Maddison looks like a phenomenal talent, and if we could get him we'd be fools not to.

Exactly, the problem is that people have got far too attached to our players that are coming through our ranks but that doesn't mean we should suddenly negate buying players to compete with them.

If James Madison turns out to be a better prospect than Onomah than so be it, we're not running a fucking nursery here, we only need to be interested in what's best for our club not individual players.

 

[yido_number1]

I never said he would be going into our youth team, my point was, the more players you have for each position, the more it negatively affects their development, rather than positively, due to having more competition.

If he were to arrive here, he would probably have Eriksen, Pritchard, Chadli, Son, Lamela, Dembele, Njie & Onomah ahead of him, we could send him out on loan for a year or two, but by the time he comes back, Oduwa, Edwards or Shashoua might be ready. Remember Pritchard was more impressive in that league when he was just 6 month older and they look very similar types of player.

Onomah has been played out of position and has only been able to get game time due to injuries to Pritchard, Njie, Bentaleb and Mason.

I agree with your point about not stunting the academy's players progress, but with a player that can improve the team and still develop I think you have to take the shot.

Quite simply if we sign young players that do well like Alli it is players like Chadli that should worry the most. To improve as a club you need an evolution of players and if you can sign players like this cheaply and sell your established players that are outperformed you'd be in good shape.

 

[Dharmabum]

I never said he would be going into our youth team, my point was, the more players you have for each position, the more it negatively affects their development, rather than positively, due to having more competition.

If he were to arrive here, he would probably have Eriksen, Pritchard, Chadli, Son, Lamela, Dembele, Njie & Onomah ahead of him, we could send him out on loan for a year or two, but by the time he comes back, Oduwa, Edwards or Shashoua might be ready. Remember Pritchard was more impressive in that league when he was just 6 month older and they look very similar types of player.

Onomah has been played out of position and has only been able to get game time due to injuries to Pritchard, Njie, Bentaleb and Mason.

It appears that many on SC now lump together all the attacking positions at Spurs as one big "lump" (and at times even the CF postion as well but not in this example) as if Poch's formation is a kind of half-haphazardly anarchy when it comes to selecting the attacking players.
Maddision is clearly a CMF. Yes, he not WF.
Son, Chadli, Oduwa and, particularly Njie are WF. Yes, as Poch even has stated several times, Son and Chadli can be used as CF (an idea that many on SC are totally against and refuse to believe ) And, yes, in emergency they can play in the "hole" but that's not their strong position.
I am pretty sure - without ever having spoken to Poch about it (no, I have actually never spoken to him) - that Poch wants his players to settle in a few positions where they are best utilized; and as far as possible not play players out of position.
PS! The "lump" statement was a general statement as I've seen many on SC lump in players in postions they hardly play, or even never have played, when talking about formations and positions.

 

[Dharmabum]

Exactly, the problem is that people have got far too attached to our players that are coming through our ranks but that doesn't mean we should suddenly negate buying players to compete with them.

If James Madison turns out to be a better prospect than Onomah than so be it, we're not running a fucking nursery here, we only need to be interested in what's best for our club not individual players.

I see what you mean, and agree that if they see Maddison as a better prospect than any CMF at Spurs, then they should buy him.
However, one should also consider the individual player as the team is made up of individuals. Bringing in a "better" player can upset the team chemistry if the concerning player is not blending in well with the other players. And, by "prefering" players (particularly academy players) already at the club, who're ready to give their heart (and soul) for the club but who may be "less", can have a very positive synergetic effect on the team/squad.
Look at ManU under Fergie: some of those rather average from the academy, or bought, played beyond their capacity due to their intense desire to give their all.

 

[Shadydan]

I see what you mean, and agree that if they see Maddison as a better prospect than any CMF at Spurs, then they should buy him.
However, one should also consider the individual player as the team is made up of individuals. Bringing in a "better" player can upset the team chemistry if the concerning player is not blending in well with the other players. And, by "prefering" players (particularly academy players) already at the club, who're ready to give their heart (and soul) for the club but who may be "less", can have a very positive synergetic effect on the team/squad.
Look at ManU under Fergie: some of those rather average from the academy, or bought, played beyond their capacity due to their intense desire to give their all.

If our academy players are ready to give their heart and soul for the club then there's no reason they'd feel disgruntled at others young players coming in, it should by and large have the reverse affect as it means that they need to work hard to get into the team and the fact that the club have a policy of buying young and playing young should mean that it's enough to keep these players interested if it doesn't then I question that players mentality and whether he is right for Tottenham.

I need to re-iterate this because I feel people are over looking the fact that we haven't just gone out and bought a Paulinho or a Capoue which would have effectively sent out a message that the management didn't trust our youngsters regardless of how they played or how good they were. I was totally against us looking to buy Witsel because that would represent that very thing and essentially it would be a pointless appointment but I've always said that if there are young players with serious potential then we should be snapping them up.

 

[Cavehillspur]

Anyone know what time the transfer window closes on the 1st Feb? The summer window shut earlier last year around 5 or 6pm just wondering if it will be the same or will it go back to the usual 11pm?

 

[Dharmabum]

Anyone know what time the transfer window closes on the 1st Feb? The summer window shut earlier last year around 5 or 6pm just wondering if it will be the same or will it go back to the usual 11pm?

That was because it was a bank holiday in UK the day the window was supposed to close, if I am not too wrong, which is why is closed a day later in the UK - so that's why the unusual closing time for that window.

 

[Cavehillspur]

That was because it was a holiday in UK the day the window was supposed to close, if I am not too wrong, which is why is closed a day later in the UK - so that's why the unusual closing time for that window.

Yeah just been thinking that myself think you're correct, cheers!