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Joe Cole - Signs for liverpool

DoublePivot

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Oh no we missed out on Danny Wilson. Were we after him?

Spot the difference.

Spurs qualified for the CL with a good, fairly young team with few deficiencies and an experienced manager.

Liverpool finished well out of the top four with gaping holes in their team, three of their best players are either reaching 30 or have serious injury problems, and they have changed managers and are in financial turmoil.

Which one do you think is going to be in more need to sign players? All your incessant whining on this site is getting really tiresome. It's July 21st and other than Sandro we have signed no one- except our manager and our two best players whose contract merited renewal. God, where's the nearest bridge for crying out loud. Grow some fucking balls and look at the bigger picture.

I'll admit I go through patches during the season and silly season when I am very negative. It's just who I am, and while I do realize that can be annoying to others.

I'm not lamenting the players they have signed. We don't need any midfielder, imo. What I am lamenting is that while you contend that we need nobody, we obviously do and the club have made noise about finding some players. We can contest the position, that's for certain. Yet in that vain, we can't get things done. Richards, who we're openly after, is making Kaboul look like a quick signing. Wickham has been going on since the spring. The one you bring up, Sandro, took well over a year, and he's not with us yet. Hodgson has been at LFC for a week and got shit done. Came in and piped us for Cole (I'm not saying that's a bad thing)

Our methodology in signing players is what worries me. Everything is protracted and painful. There's something wrong with that, because too often it ends with us doing 10 pieces of business in the last 48 hours and trying to mesh a squad in September rather than in preseason.

Notice here that I am trying to be civil with you this week. Respond with your typical wind up comments towards me, and it's going to be impossible for me to show any further civility ever to you. Okay?
 

Coyboy

The Double of 1961 is still The Double
Dec 3, 2004
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I'll admit I go through patches during the season and silly season when I am very negative. It's just who I am, and while I do realize that can be annoying to others.

I'm not lamenting the players they have signed. We don't need any midfielder, imo. What I am lamenting is that while you contend that we need nobody, we obviously do and the club have made noise about finding some players. We can contest the position, that's for certain. Yet in that vain, we can't get things done. Richards, who we're openly after, is making Kaboul look like a quick signing. Wickham has been going on since the spring. The one you bring up, Sandro, took well over a year, and he's not with us yet. Hodgson has been at LFC for a week and got shit done. Came in and piped us for Cole (I'm not saying that's a bad thing)

Our methodology in signing players is what worries me. Everything is protracted and painful. There's something wrong with that, because too often it ends with us doing 10 pieces of business in the last 48 hours and trying to mesh a squad in September rather than in preseason.

Notice here that I am trying to be civil with you this week. Respond with your typical wind up comments towards me, and it's going to be impossible for me to show any further civility ever to you. Okay?

Where did I say we didn't need anyone?

The reason people think it takes us longer to do deals is, in large part, because of this place. ITKs, rumours etc. Do you really think we (and Arsenal)were talking to Cole and then suddenly Liverpool 'got shit done'? Do you think it possible that other people were talking to Cole from Liverpool? Or that he was just spending time thinking about it and then judgment day came? It likely had very little to do with Hodgson just flying in to gazump us.

Did Modric take a long time? Kranjcar? Sandro took a year? Well that isn't strictly correct and was a complicated deal. Why don't you give us ways that Levy could have expedited it? As you are in such a position to pass unequivocal judgement on him. NEWSFLASH- you are a fan, you don't know what goes on behind the scenes.

It also seems we take longer to do deals because we follow it on here. Do you follow every single rumour linking Liverpool with someone. The Sandro, Wickham or whomever deals are unlikely to take any longer than other signings by other clubs. I really don't see Levy as a sloppy negotiator who takes his time; he is aggressive, rightly prudent but he knows what he is doing and he and Harry seem to have a good understanding.

We only 'know' what rumours tell us, it is incredibly immature and naive to base much on that; and incredibly arrogant from a position of pure ignorance to suggest our methodology is flawed. It seems you are complaining for complaining's sake. You aren't lamenting that we haven't signed someone but annoyed that it took us so long not to sign him?

As I said, us and Liverpool are in different positions for a whole host of reasons. We can afford to be prudent and pick our deals, not throw that much dough at Joe Cole. We don't need to 'mesh' a squad together, at the very most we will have three new signings to complement an already strong squad- similar to last year with Crouch, Bassong and latterly Krancjar and that didn't do us much harm did it?
 

stevenqoz

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Apr 10, 2006
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Unusual I know but I agree full with B-C. I would add that I just never saw this as a must have deal for Spurs....we already have a range of players who can do what Cole does. I would have been pleased if he came but would prefer an out and out striker like Santa Cruz
 

tony_parkes

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Jun 21, 2008
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His debut, he is bang up for it as are Liverpool, against a poor team. Let's be realistic, we all know he is a very good player but this is hardly a barometer of how he will play every week and only time will tell if he can steer clear of the types of injuries that have blighted the last 2 years of his career.
 

TwoSaintsComeMarching

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Jul 26, 2008
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His debut, he is bang up for it as are Liverpool, against a poor team. Let's be realistic, we all know he is a very good player but this is hardly a barometer of how he will play every week and only time will tell if he can steer clear of the types of injuries that have blighted the last 2 years of his career.

True.
 
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