John Bostock - Where did it all go wrong ?

Discussion in 'Loanwatch' started by tototoner, Feb 18, 2012.

  1. Dundalk_Spur

    Dundalk_Spur The only Spur in the village

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    No thanks just had lunch.
     
  2. spursandbarca

    spursandbarca Well-Known Member

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    dean parret hes done nothing either.
     
  3. tototoner

    tototoner SC Supporter

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    then he should start to act it or he'll regret it for the rest of his life

    i still think there is a decent footballer somewhere but when you go out and buy a Bentley /Aston Martin with your 1st pro contract even before you have played for the 1st team it tells you something isn't quite right - where is the motivation ?
     
  4. StartingPrice

    StartingPrice Chief Sardonicus Hyperlip

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    Is that when you sneak off up the walkway along the side of a building with a naughty man :eek:mg::eek:mg::eek:mg:
     
  5. eddiebailey

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    Comolli was an excellent closer when it came to signing young talents, and the "sooner rather than later" promise no doubt played a part in that. Comolli also seems not to have paid much attention to character when signing players. The result was antsy youngsters like Taarabt, Boateng, Giovanni and Bostock thinking they were going to waltz into the first team and getting the hump when they didn't.

    Jol tried to work with Comolli's policy, making Assou-Ekottu, Kaboul and Bale first team regulars before they were really ready, and giving game time to Taarabt and Boateng; Ramos had no patience with players who could not make an immediate contribution and soon gave up on Kaboul, Taarabt and Boateng (Assou-Ekottu and Bale were largely unavailable due to injury) - while Bosotck seems to have been surprised to find himself on arrival at Spurs training with the youth team.

    Harry does give second chances, but youngsters are expected to show what they can do on loan, as to differing extents most of our young starlets have done. Unfortunately Bostock seems still to be too dim and arrogant to grasp this and evidently just sees turning out for a League On club as beneath his dignity.
     
  6. tototoner

    tototoner SC Supporter

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    Harry Redknapp quote's from October 2010 - I do not think much has changed

    Dean Parrett is another that springs to mind

     
  7. StartingPrice

    StartingPrice Chief Sardonicus Hyperlip

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    I agree.

    About Comolli using the sooner-rather-than-later statement as a closer/seeling point - I do still think it was entirely the wrong thing to say to a sixteen YO coming into a badly misfiring team.

    Yeah, 'Arry wants to see major application from young players on loan and on the training pitch - I think some young players see it a booby-prize (especially one who came into the club as a sixteen YO being told he would be in the 1st team almost immediately).

    And the Redknapp quote, put up by Toteoner, above ^^^^
     
  8. Krafty

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    Whenever I've seen Bostock in a Spurs first XI shirt he has looked god - sub appearances in the cups, pre-season. He looks mobile, technically good, and looks to get into advanced areas. But when he is not playing for our first team he hasn't impressed.

    In a way, this is a copy of another one of youngsters, Danny Rose, who did nothing on his loan spells (At Watford he scored a 20 yard own goal and missed an open goal, while the Peterborough fans I heard from did not rate him at all). I saw Rose play for a Spurs XI team and he was very poor, but every time I have seen him in the first XI, competitive and pre-season games, there has been a work rate and team ethic that has impressed.

    I don't know if its just the mentality of these players we snap up from other teams that is the issue. We come in for them, offer them big wages (at that age) to beat rivals to their signature, and these players get into a comfort zone. Its not just and Bostock, there are plenty of examples elsewhere.

    He is still young, but it is disappointing that his attitude is being questioned. Even if he isnt breaking his balls he should still want to show his quality.
     
  9. StartingPrice

    StartingPrice Chief Sardonicus Hyperlip

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    :eek:mg::eek:mg::eek:mg:

    More seriously, interesting perspective, that him and Rose seem goddam aawful on loan and with development team (or whatever), but look better in the 1st team. Maybe, like some good players, they need to be playing with other good players to show their quality :shrug:
     
  10. Stavrogin

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    Not sure if anyone's mentioned this but whenever there's an article about Bostock everyone seems mightily impressed because he a devout christian and seems to ''ave 'is 'ead screwed on roight, guvnor!' (That is how most of you talk, I know these things)

    But maybe that was his problem. Marriaged and spiritually smug (or contented) at a young age. You would expect him to have a good attitude?
     
  11. ChristianBaler

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    Dean Parrett is nothing like Bostock or those quotes describing young players by Harry.

    He's had a difficult career with us due to injury but has impressed out on loan.

    His mum posts on here as well and she is a very nice lady and I cant imagine Dean being brought up like some of today's footballers have.
     
  12. sim0n

    sim0n King of Prussia

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    so, he's not in the side tomorrow then? :shrug:
     
  13. akie

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    Dean Parrett had a relatively successful loan spell with Charlton and is also doing well with Yeovil at the moment (he scored today)

    Give the guy a break
     
  14. HodisGawd

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    Parent's just been unlucky. Different case.
     
  15. tototoner

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    If not Parrett then who else is Harry talking about ?

    Bostock I think is a given
     
  16. eddiebailey

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    Last season David James hint at dissatisfaction at the attitude of a loanee, and specifcally exempted Caulker, so I think the fingers points at Danny Rose.

    Nicholson and Oyenuga did not cover themselves in glory in Finland last season either.

    And I think Townsend has said that he was reaching the point where no-one would touch him on loan.
     
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    gave away the pen that lost them the game last weekend, probably didn't help.
     

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