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Jol anxious to prevent another Cup calamity

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    Source: The Times

    Martin Jol felt a powerful sense of loss last season even before Tottenham Hotspur missed out on a Champions League place on the campaign’s final day.

    The embarrassment of losing to a lower-league club in last year’s FA Cup third round was compounded by the Tottenham head coach’s mourning at such a swift exit from the competition he cherished as a youth in the Netherlands, as a player for West Bromwich Albion and now as a manager.

    “Last year there was something missing,” Jol said. “It’s coming from my heart — it’s the best competition in Europe. I won the Dutch Cup, 50,000 there, unbelievable — but I would swap it for the FA Cup.”

    Tottenham were two goals up away to Leicester City last January but lost 3-2. “We were in shock,” Jol said. “Players tell each other, we don’t want that feeling [again].”

    Another televised trip to a Coca-Cola Championship side awaits tomorrow, when Tottenham face Cardiff City. Jol diverges from the conventional wisdom that the gap between the Barclays Premiership and Championship is cavernous and widening.

    “I don’t think there’s a big difference, Wigan proved that and Reading are proving it now,” he said.

    Whether Cardiff qualify as a “good” team is debatable. The early-season pace-setters are now eighth in the division after ten games without a win.
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Discussion in 'Spurscommunity Front Page News' started by Geez, Jan 6, 2007.

  1. Rooga
    I've been trying to erase the memory of that game for a year now. I think we should be able to put it to rest like we did in the league cup this season re: Grimsby.

    On another note, I love Jol's passion for the English game. Nice to know the FA cup means still means something to some managers, unlike some...
  2. ST
    I remembered how gutted he was after we lost at Leicester, and let's face it, we only had ourselves to blame that day. I hate to tempt fate but I don't think he's going to allow the same kind of sloppiness this time.

    Please:pray:
  3. 18Klinsmann
    Cardiff is more than a potential banana skin. Given our away form this season a defeat is not at all unlikely. However, I do think that we are more than up for it this time and considering our performance at pompey I am fairly confident that we will at least get a draw out of the game. Replays are not exactly what we need, but we can certainly do without being on the receiving end of another upset, and we could very well need the cups to secure European football next season.
  4. davidmatzdorf
    One of the sad things about the shambolic events of the final quarter of the Leicester match was that they virtually erased from our memories one of the very best goals from last season: Stalteri's wonderful belter into the top corner from about 20m.

    Also an excellent performance from Aaron Lennon, who pretty much tortured the Leicester left back in the first half.
  5. Ali
    Our away form in cup competitions has been very good though, so I'm not worried about that.
  6. 18Klinsmann
    That's true. In fact I think we have won every single one up until now, whereas we have been more dodgy at the Lane in the Carling Cup. As I said, I am fairly confident about tomorrow, but it will be a real test of character, and at venues like Ninian Park you rarely get any gifts.
  7. bigspurs
    "we don’t want that feeling [again].” - Well that entirely up to you lads. There's nothing us fans can do but hope our team turns up and plays a decent f*cking game!
  8. amie278
    i dont know where ali gets his information from but i do know that he is being mis informed. anton ferdinand was never bid for. curtis davies and gareth bale are the top targets. we have gone cold on giles barnes and wont be making a bid this window, nor are we persuing downing anymore. wright philips is too pricy considering his form at the moment and martin wants to keep lennon on the right and hopefully get young on the left but wont pay more than 6 mill for him. gardener, stalteri , and routledge will be the only players aloud to leave this window. FACT
  9. mawspurs
    Where do you get your information from? Do you consider it a reliable source?
  10. amie278
    My information is from the horses mouth, and are the facts. Not information gathered from other sites and fashioned into tall tales to get everyone excited.comolli is also talking to the representatives ofModeste mbami
  11. amie278
    And if i was lying mbami would be a hell of a name to come up with seeing as i have never heard his name in my life
  12. davidmatzdorf
    You were doing OK there, until I read: "FACT". At that point, I stopped taking your post seriously.

    I reckon there are two types of "ITK" posts here. The ones who hedge every comment with "it's just second-hand information, it may or may not be true, but this is what I've been told" and the arrogant poseurs who write things like "FACT" about things that cannot possibly be facts, because they haven't happened yet.

    Then we hear about "the horse's mouth", without any hint as to which one of the 8 or 9 possible horses' mouths you may have been peering into.

    You may be correct in every particular - we'll find out soon - in which case I will eat my words. But this place fills up with "FACT" and "the horse's mouth" every transfer window and it's reliably been complete crap every time.

    Whereas Ali's contact has provided information with an extremely high hit rate. Even when we have not, in the end, signed one of the targets that Ali has been told about, it almost always transpires that we had been trying to sign him, but had not succeeded.
  13. 18Klinsmann
    I don't know Ali's source, but as far as I recall he has rarely been much off target in the past few windows. If your source is correct we will have to fork out quite a bit of money this window, and thus a few other players will have to leave. Gardner and Stalteri can leave if we get defensive cover, but I still hope Routledge will be given his chance. I know I keep repeating myself about him, but I am convinced about his ability and don't think we have been fair to him. if Bale does come to the Lane it must be the end for another good prospect, Ziegler, who hasn't been given much of a chance either. A bit harsh, but I guess that is professional football in a nutshell and as Jol watches Ziegler every day he must know what he is doing.
  14. amie278
    sorry if i have come across as being arrogant. i merely added fact at the end as a way to show that this is actually our transfer policy this window and i am not telling porkies. i am very much in the know without wanting to reveal my source. but i will say it is a current player.
  15. 18Klinsmann
    Well, let's see what happens. I'm somewhat surprised that players are even in on transfer activity at Premiership level.Eek
  16. Ali
    As I told you in my post, and have said on a million previous occasions, I get the information from a mate who has a close friend on the Spurs board. And I told you I can't vouch for the truth of what he tells me, I only pass it on. I have no idea if what he tells me is right or not, but post it in case anyone is interested. Everyone can make their own minds up. And since you are saying that your info is FACT, where out of interest do you get it from?
  17. Ali
    Read this after my previous post. I've said it several times before, I quite categorically do not, as you put it, gather info from other sites (as this is the only football site I ever read, and I don't have time for that anyway) and fashion it into tall tales to get everyone excited. I pass on what I am told by one person only and what he tells me is rarely untrue. You are basically accusing me of being a liar. I don't take kindly to that.
  18. davidmatzdorf
    OK then, let's wait and see.

    It's an interesting question: whether the players are taken into the management's confidence about their transfer priorities. If so, it would be a good way to ensure leaks everywhere, as young footballers are not known for their ability to keep their mouths shut. As your friend did not...:wink:.

    It may be that senior players, say King and Keane, are involved in discussions with the management about this. But I have my doubts.

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