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Josh Onomah - Sheffield Wednesday

Blake Griffin

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How did he do?

1st half 4/10
2nd half 8/10

first half he looked half asleep, sliced a clearance from a corner which could've been capitalised on and also tried dribbling out of trouble inside his own 6 yard box and lost the ball but fortunately got away with it. he did play some nice forward passes though including a good ball out to maddison who then put calvert-lewin in to score. 2nd half he was far more switched on, brushing opponents aside with ease, driving forward and showing good feet to get away from players.
 

seanwhite1961

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Last played 24/2, subbed on 60.

Hard to see any further meaningful involvement for him, with Jedinak, Whelan and Grealish all fit and starting. Villa's only aim is a futile chase of Cardiff for 2nd, which means absolutely no risks.
 

Locotoro

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I feel that Villa was his chance to show his quality and he's not taking it. Much like in that recent U21 game half the time he's switched and half the time he has his head in the clouds.

I suspect he will be sold on to a Championship club and will be a player that will make it back into the Premiership in his late 20s when he finally realises he needs to be 100% all the time to make it at this level.
 

muppetman

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Sorry if already posted but a Villa fans opinion of Josh's time with them

https://cartilagefreecaptain.sbnati...m-hotspur-loan-update-josh-onomah-aston-villa

Checking in on Josh Onomah at Aston Villa
We talked to our colleague at 7500 to Holte for the scoop on Joshy’s loan and his future at Spurs.
By Dustin Menno@dustingm Apr 5, 2018, 9:30pm BST
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Photo by Michael Regan/Getty Images
It’s been a while since we checked in on, or even thought about, Josh Onomah. The young Tottenham Hotspur midfielder impressed this summer as England won the U20 World Cup, but has found minutes hard to come by at Spurs, and Mauricio Pochettino shipped him off to Aston Villa for a season-long loan.
Joshy’s arrival at Villa Park caused quite a bit of excitement, and Onomah has gotten a lot of minutes as the Villains chase promotion back to the Premier League. But it hasn’t always been a smooth road for him in the Midlands this season.
We decided to talk to James Rushton, managing editor at SB Nation’s Villa blog 7500 to Holte to get an idea of how Josh is doing this season, and whether there are any takeaways from his loan.
After an initial period of excitement, Villa fans seem to have cooled on Joshy. Why is that?
Josh started really hot, and came over with a great deal of hype. Initially, he impressed and he didn’t stop. The issue was, he was a good player in a Villa side that didn’t know its best lineup, and didn’t even know it’s own identity. It was thus very easy for someone to step up to a plate, since nobody else was. I hope that doesn’t detract from my, or your, opinion of him - but it was very simple for him to stand out, and perform well, when barely anyone was. There’s a bit of unrest on our side that Josh didn’t kick on when the side started to really get going, and that’s testament to our high opinions of him as a player, we just wanted to see that little bit more. He hasn’t always had the best run under Steve Bruce, and even played as a striker for us, so I don’t think it’s unfair to put all the blame upon Josh’s shoulders. On a final note, there’s a growing opinion that Onomah doesn’t ‘try hard’ enough for us. I think it’s grossly unfair to state that, and while he has looked out of sorts at times, I wouldn’t say its to do with lack of effort, but that he sometimes gets a bit ‘lost’ in games.


Josh Onomah, Aston Villa 17-18. This is fairly promising for a 20-year-old in the Championship.​
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What do your eyes tell you that these numbers (in the sidebar) don’t?
I respect Ted Knutson’s hard work and don’t really want to argue against StatsBomb’s presentation here. I’d just want to see more of ‘ballwinner’ Josh than ‘run to the corner flag’ Josh. I think the stats, especially as presented by the good folk over there are promising, and my rating for Josh thus far would be about a 5.5 or 6 out of ten, which isn’t at all bad. It’s promising.

What’s the thing Onomah has improved the most from the start of the season to now? What does he struggle with the most?
I really rate Josh’s ability to pick out a special pass, and he’s gotten a lot better at a first-time pass as well. In our last game against Reading, he came on for a cameo, got himself involved and got the game going again with some fancy work in opening up the final-third. That’s the Josh I want to see, the Josh who gets stuck into the trench battle and runs the show. Not the sideshow he can sometimes become when he’s deployed in an ineffectual position, or when he is pressed. That’s when he will struggle, when a team actually values him as a threat, and will try to press and tackle him.

Josh sees himself as a CM but apart from the U20 World Cup with England we’ve never really seen him get a run out there. From what you’ve seen of him this year, could he play there? Should he play there, or are we just making excuses for why he’s failed?
Josh shouldn’t play ANYWHERE except as a CM. The deeper, the better - in my opinion. The issue is, he’s not going to do that at Villa, because there are three players who are better than him in that position for Villa, and one of them is Jack Grealish. Josh isn’t bad, but he’s going to need to find his level and get some game time as a centre midfielder. That’s unless Tottenham want to deploy him there for a run of games, but that’s not going to happen, is it? Maybe another loan spell at a club that needs a bombarding centre?

Based on everything you’ve seen, do you think Onomah has a future with a Champions League-caliber Tottenham team? And if not, is he a Premier League footballer?
I truly believe Josh will make it. He’s got a good set of tools on him that will enable him to make the grade, but will he get his chance? Will it be at Tottenham? That’s up to you guys. I hope he does, because it would be nice for Villa to have played some small part in his development. As for Champions League, who knows? Look how far people like Dele Alli and Harry Kane have come on. You’ve been there before with players like Josh Onomah and it hasn’t turned out badly, at all? Has it? At the very least, I think he’ll make the grade at a Premier League level - and I hope it’s with one of us. Let’s just see if he kicks on from here, though! At any rate, thanks for letting us have him for the season, as he’s provided a few good memories so far. I just wish it could have been more, but hey - there’s still a few games left down here.
 

SpursSince1980

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Apparently played cm for villa on Friday and by all accounts played well. I wonder if Bruce will get the message!
 

Clark28

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Apparently played cm for villa on Friday and by all accounts played well. I wonder if Bruce will get the message!
just saw he had a match rating of 8.7, only other player with a rating over 8.0 was MOTM Grealish with a 9.2

well done Josh

edit: checked the Villa forum, fuck me there are some idiots

Really poor, if he wasn't on loan from spuds wouldn't get near the team. Only stood out in second half because he actually made 2 tackles. He wants to play number 10.:cautious: We have jack for that. Number of times jack snoddy etc ran past him tracking back.

but they ain't all bad

Baffled by this thread. Was my Motm tonight. Played really well.
 

Col_M

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My Villa mate text me at half time saying how well JA was playing.
 

G Ron

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I watched the first half and thought he was okay. Looked very lethargic and lacked the desire to press (At one point he was just strolling to press the Leeds defender right in front of Bruce who in turn had to give him a rocket to get him to up the intensity).

He was playing further forward than I expected - looked like Onomah, Grealish, and Kodjia were playing as the attacking 3 behind Grabban. He showed A few nice touches at times, but other than that I was a bit disappointed. He looked huge (in terms of height) which surprised me as I wasn’t aware that he was that tall.

I won’t write him off yet though as I’m sure Harry looked average during some of his loan spells. He’s clearly a tidy player, no doubt
 

Clark28

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i watched the game and he played very very well.

won the ball back a few times and was passing crisply.
 
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