Juande Ramos CV

[Juande_Ramos]

I guess all Spurs fans know what Ramos achieved at Sevilla, but probably not many of you know all the facts of his managerial career, his achievements and his failures.
Here I will translate for you the weekipedia article on Juande Ramos written in Spanish
One note to understand the level at which Ramos has been coaching.
In Spain we have these categories
Primera Division Premiership
Segunda Division Championship,etc
Segunda B
Tercera Division
And below


Juan de la Cruz Ramos Cano, better known as Juande Ramos, was born in Ciudad Real (Spain) on the 25th of September of 1954. At present he is the head coach of Tottenham Hotspur Football Club in the Premier League.


As a player
Although born in Ciudad Real, he lived from the age of 8 in Elche (near Valencia) where he started his career as a footballer playing in midfield.
He played for Elche CF in the Spanish first division for 4 years, and managed to play in 3 games :duh: (One of three, a typo, he wasn't Maradona or he was the Spanish Darrent Anderton). Later on he played for lesser clubs in the region of Valencia until he had to hang up his boots prematurely at the age of 28 because of a knee injury.

As a manager
Juande started his managerial career at Elche CF in the youth categories. He spent one year coaching the under 18s. Then he moved onto coaching Elche B team (in Spain many clubs have a second team, or B team, made of younger players and can participate in the normal Spanish divisions and can be demoted or promoted the same as the rest clubs as long as the A team is not in the same division. If for instance the A team gets demoted and the B team happens to be in the division below, the B team will get demoted to. Real Madrid B team won the Spanish second division but couldn't get promoted because Real Madrid was in the first division).
At Elche B team he spent two seasons in the Tercera Division. Then he was moved up as an assistant manager to Elche first team, who was by then in the Spanish Segunda Division.

In 1992 he became the manager of CD Alcoyano in the Segunda B division, a club where he had played as a footballer. After two seasons he left for Levante, also in Segunda B division. With Levante he won the league but failed to qualify to Segunda division in the promotion mini league.

The following season he left for CD Logroñés who were in the Spanish Segunda Division,and got them promoted to Primera Division in his first season. That success caught the eye of FC Barcelona and they signed him to coach Barcelona Bteam, by then in Segunda Division, the following season.
But Juande had to leave Barcelona one year later when his team got demoted.

Then he moved to Unió Esportiva Lleida, a Catalan Club, where he spent one season and almost managed to get them to Primera División.

Next season he moved to Rayo Vallecano from Madrid.
His first three seasons at the club were the most succesful in the history of the Madrid club. In his first season the team got promoted to Primera Division. The season 1999 2000 Rayo Vallecano were 9th in primera Division, the highest place achieved by this club in their history. Not only that but they qualified for the UEFA Cup after coming first in the Fair Play league.
The season 2000/2001 Rayo started leading the league, although they finished 14th. In the UEFA Cup they reached the quarter finals beating in the proccess teams like Gironding from France.

In June 2001 Juande left Rayo Vallecano and signed for Betis where he stayed for one season. He managed to get them into the UEFA Cup after the team had just been promoted the previous season.

The season 2002/2003 he left for Espanyol where he stayed very little time, after being sacked with only 5 games played and the team being at the bottom of the table.
The season 2003/2004 Juande coached Málaga CF.

In the summer of 2005, after one sabatical year, Juande joined Sevilla where he managed the best success in the history of the club.
During the season 2005/2006 Sevilla won their first European title, the UEFA Cup, and later won the European Supercup, beating Barcelona.
In the year 2006 Juande Ramos was in the run in for the best coach in the world in the IFFHS rankings. Eventually he didn't win the accolade but Sevilla were chosen as the best team in the world in 2006.
On the 28th of February of 2007 Juande suffered a brutal attack during the derby Cup game against their fiercest neighbours Betis. On bottle throw from the stands hit him on the head leaving him unconscious (I think he faked it) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bJ-ggcb2Rzg
The game was abandoned and Juande was taken to hospital where he spent one day.

In the season 2006/2007 He won his second UEFA Cup and the Spanish Cup. Besides, Sevilla managed third position in the Spanish League, their best position after the season 1969/1970 (also third).
In the season 2007/2008 Sevilla won the Spanish Super Cup, beating Real Madrid and managed to qualify for the CH L groups stage. But on the 26 of October of 2007, he left Sevilla unexpectedly after accepting a millionaire offer from Tottenham that makes him the best paid coach in the world.

 

[Dibby]

Best paid coach in the world? Wow.

 

[Has1978]

Muchas gracias Juande! Me alegre que hayas puesto todo esto. No me importa un cómino que gane tanto - lo que me importa es el cambio de la mentalidad , la suerte y el exito de nuestro amor. El Tottenham.

Are you from Seville?

 

[snake1]

If we don't win the 'Fifa European-World Cup of League Cup runner's up' cup, I'm blaming you, Juande.

 

[tony0379]

Lol

 

[18Klinsmann]

He seems to be getting better and better, but has not yet spent a long time at the same place...

 

[Juande_Ramos]

Muchas gracias Juande! Me alegre que hayas puesto todo esto. No me importa un cómino que gane tanto - lo que me importa es el cambio de la mentalidad , la suerte y el exito de nuestro amor. El Tottenham.

Are you from Seville?

Thanks. I am not from Sevilla and I don't support Sevilla either. What I have been though is a fan of Juande Ramos since he was at Rayo Vallecano. You are in good hands.

He seems to be getting better and better, but has not yet spent a long time at the same place...

The trouble with Ramos like with many other managers in Spain is that they rarely stay at a club for a long time. Chairmen are trigger happy when it comes to sacking managers. What I find strange is the high number of clubs he has managed where he only stayed one season, generally a succesful one, to move the following season to another club of a weaker standard.
The only two teams where he has "failed" were Barcelona B and Espanyol. Barcelona B only play youngsters from the academy and the success of those teams is very volatile as they continually promote younger players, sell the older ones who are not going to make it at Barcelona or move the best ones to the A team, even during the season. Puyol, for instance, was playing for the B team when Van Gaal moved him to the first team in the middle of the season.
At Espanyol they sacked him after only 5 games. That is ridiculous and very frequent in Spain if results are poor.
His results have got better and better because he has coached teams with better players. What Juande achieved at Rayo Vallecano was as impressive as what he achieved at Sevilla. Rayo Vallecano are a team from Madrid who can only afford to buy cheap players, if at all, and that have spent more time in the lower divisions. I would compare them to Reading, who in my opinion are coached by the best English coach, or one of the best anyway.

 

[nidge]

Thanks for the info and although it does give an insight into Ramos, the only thing I care about is how well he does at Spurs and not any of his previous clubs.

 

[AngerManagement]

Thanks for the info and although it does give an insight into Ramos, the only thing I care about is how well he does at Spurs and not any of his previous clubs.

True, but it is also comforting to know he has been a success almost everywhere he has been and not just struck it lucky at Sevilla.

Give more hope he may actually be the man to deliever us some much needed and much longed for success

 

[idlepete]

No hobbies or outside interests?

 

[AnotherSpursFan]

first Berbati now JUande Ramos,
We know Ramos is a good coach and we know Berbatov is a good player(sometimes) what i hate about thread like these is you talk like the individuals are bigger than the club Tottenham Hotspurs.
I like Ramos but i don't like his fanboys.

 

[Yid-ol]

Thanks for the info and although it does give an insight into Ramos, the only thing I care about is how well he does at Spurs and not any of his previous clubs.

thats how i see it as well, couldnt care if he was shit for clubs or great for clubs, as long as he produces the goods for us then i shall be happy! shouldnt live off passed glory... and that goes for players as well

 

[General Levy]

I'm a wee bit apprehensive that he has managed a lot of clubs in such a short period of time. If a big Spanish club came calling, I'm sure he would most definitely leave.

 

[yanno]

I'm a wee bit apprehensive that he has managed a lot of clubs in such a short period of time. If a big Spanish club came calling, I'm sure he would most definitely leave.

I'm not so sure.

Plus they'd have to buy out Ramos' long-term contract, and the cost to the buying club would be astronomical. Probably a world record for a coach.

 

[Berbati]

first Berbati now JUande Ramos,
We know Ramos is a good coach and we know Berbatov is a good player(sometimes) what i hate about thread like these is you talk like the individuals are bigger than the club Tottenham Hotspurs.
I like Ramos but i don't like his fanboys.

:stupid:

 

[Juande_Ramos]

Didn't know that Juande put an important one over Rafael Benitez.
During the season 1998/1999 while at Rayo Vallecano his team were 5th in the Segunda Division. The top 3 teams got promoted automatically but the 4th and 5th had to play a two leg playoff tie against the bottom 4th and 5th of Primera Division.
Rayo Vallecano were drawn against Extremadura, by then coached by Rafael Benitez, and they won both legs 2-0, so they were promoted.

 

[yanno]

Didn't know that Juande put an important one over Rafael Benitez.

In the few games he's been coaching us, Juande has already shown a great deal more tactical flexibility than Benitez. Some of the substitutions and rejigs - eg the 3-5-2 formations, using Zokora as a spare CB, using Lennon and O'Hara as FB/WBs etc - show a courage and willingness to shake things up that I've not really seen from Benitez.

I really like Ramos' sheer bravado!

 

[Juande_Ramos]

In the few games he's been coaching us, Juande has already shown a great deal more tactical flexibility than Benitez. Some of the substitutions and rejigs - eg the 3-5-2 formations, using Zokora as a spare CB, using Lennon and O'Hara as FB/WBs etc - show a courage and willingness to shake things up that I've not really seen from Benitez.

I really like Ramos' sheer bravado!

Certainly he is more flexible, and much more adventurous. Benitez on the other hand is the master of defensive play. That's how his success has been built. His problem is that he is not able to compromise a bit of hardwork for more creativity. That's why he plays that donkey Kuyt who runs his socks off but has little ability, or finds it in general so difficult to get quality players upfront, cause normally those type of players do not work very hard.
Paradoxically I believe Liverpool were linked with Berbatov. I really find that one strange cause Berbatov rarely tracks back, and that is a must for any player under Benitez.

 

[yanno]

Certainly he is more flexible, and much more adventurous. Benitez on the other hand is the master of defensive play. That's how his success has been built. His problem is that he is not able to compromise a bit of hardwork for more creativity. That's why he plays that donkey Kuyt who runs his socks off but has little ability, or finds it in general so difficult to get quality players upfront, cause normally those type of players do not work very hard.

It is good to see strikers working hard, closing down etc - but when it leads to Benitez signing ordinary players such as Voronin it starts getting silly.

As for Ramos, whilse he clearly believes in team shape, and players working hard, I agree that he also seems prepared to take a risk to include a little extra creativity. If he starts Taarabt, we'll know that he's a much bolder coach than Benitez.

I've also noticed that Ramos seems to be rotating his CMs quite a bit, especially the squad players - Prince Boateng, Huddlestone, O'Hara. It could be that he's picking horses for courses, or that he's selecting specific types of CMs to play against particular opposition.

 

[karennina]

or that he's selecting specific types of CMs to play against particular opposition.

That would be really good if he is i reckon, bolder at least than most managers to experiment tactically in such a crucial position. Still, it's difficult to tell really, given that we don't know what his tactical aims or reading of the opposition are.