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Keep this Team together Harry!

Krafty

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The importance of a quality squad has been seen in the second half of this season. Players have come out of the shadows of winter and blossomed in spring, and Harry Redknapp must resist a summer of upheaval and keep this squad together.*

Two players who stand out in 2010: Gareth Bale and Roman Pavlyuchenko. Bale has been a revelation since coming in for Assou-Ekotto, and while Roman’s goals have dried up recently his all-round play and work rate have improved dramatically. They have shown patience, if not, in the case of the Russian, restraint in airing their discontent. Bale has made himself a definite starter, but Pavlyuchenko’s long term future is still unclear.

It is imperative that ‘Super Pav’ remains at the club, not simply for the qualities he has started show on a consistent basis, but because of his change in attitude and desire to be part of the team. Upon scoring against Wigan, his teammates surrounded him and shared his joy, or perhaps relief. Now Roman celebrates whenever the team scores. But rumours continued to circulate that he would soon leave the team. A run of goals secured his short term future, and Roman now finds himself first choice.

He may not have done enough to be first choice for the next three years, but his change in mentality and integration into the team unit should be rewarded with at least another season at the club. Selling him in the summer would send out troubling signals that it does not matter what you do, no matter how hard you try, no matter how much you change, if Harry doesn’t like you there is nothing that can be done.

Another player whose future seemed even bleaker than Pavlyuchenko was David Bentley. An up and down Spurs career appeared to have crashed through the floor as 2009 came to an end. Bust ups in training, storming out after a training match, and general larking about had seen Harry come to the end of his tether. However, he has got his head down, refocused and shown a greater hunger to work for the team. While he has not attained the headlines that Pavlyuchenko and Bale, especially, have, his performances in the two derbies have shown considerable restraint and diligence. The stupid flicks, runs down dead ends and glory shots have been replaced by simple, effective play, helping out the makeshift right back Younes Kaboul and, as Harry would put it, ‘A great shift for the team’.

The very least fans ask is that players try their hardest. Sometimes the goals dry up, the crosses get blocked and passes do not come off, but as long as a player works hard not just for themselves but for the team they get respect. Bentley and Pavlyuchenko have changed their attitudes and have contributed to two great team performances in four days. This and previous displays are evidence they should be rewarded with another season at the club. If they are shipped out team spirit could be hit. The teamwork that is at the heart of our good run this year could be destroyed. Harry’s man management skills would be nonsence.

Harry could have sidelined Bentley and Pavlyuchenko, but he gave them a chance when they deserved it. Now they deserve a chance of a long term Spurs future – not just for themselves, but for the team as a whole.

* There is one exception to this – Jermaine Jenas. A divisive figure amongst Spurs fans, if not the media at large (in particular football365 who are firmly Jenas haters), he is not an exception because of my own personal view. It’s more to do with the fact he has not performed well on the sporadic occasions he has played this season. His case was affected by picking up an injury just before a chance to cement a first team place became available, and therefore he has not had a run of games to establish some form that players like Bale and Pavlyuchenko have. I’ll leave his future up to Harry, but the arrival of Sandro is not a good sign for JJ.
 

JimmyG2

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Agree with the general sentiment and one of the front page stories seems to confirm that this is Harry's thinking too.

The demise of Jenas has been much exaggerated and I would be surprised if he were to be sold. Sandro is back up for Palacios and when he settles possibly a replacement.

We need to keep almost all the current squad including Gudjohnsen who is on loan as he gives us tactical flexibility. Modric, Lennon and Bale are important in this respect and it is as important to retain them as recruit new players.

If Woodgate has to end his career which is possible we may need another centre back.

The two weakest links are Bentley who is too slow, and Crouch who has tried but lacks the skills and heading ability at this level. I am aware of the 'other option' argument but it doesn't work because he is not good enough either as a striker or an assister. Pavlyuchenko should be retained as he has more all round ability.

However if Harry were to announce that he was keeping all our regular first team squad I would not be strongly against it in the interests of 'team spirit', as you say, and squad development.

There will be a clamour to upgrade the squad if we make the top four and more so if we don't. Wholesale changes should be resisted.

This is a quality squad that has done well especially in the light of the problems of injuries to key players.
 

Jenko

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Agree with the general sentiment and one of the front page stories seems to confirm that this is Harry's thinking too.

The demise of Jenas has been much exaggerated and I would be surprised if he were to be sold. Sandro is back up for Palacios and when he settles possibly a replacement.

I'm surprised that you're surprised Eek. I think fans in general forget to think about the players point of view when assessing the squad for next season. What players might WANT to leave in the summer. We always assume they all want to stay, whereas in JJ's case I'd expect him to want to move on.

He won't be 1st choice anymore and I think thats been made obvious. If he's lucky, it'll be up to him to accept a squad position and be ready to give it everything when called upon. If he's not lucky then Harry already is looking to offload him. Either way, its a steep enough fall from grace for an ambitious player who has spent the last few years (in his mind anyway) knocking on the door of the England team. I could see Villa or Everton tempting him away and Harry happy to search for a replacement (or talk to O'Hara).

Agree with the rest of you're post though...
 

JimmyG2

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I'm surprised that you're surprised Eek. I think fans in general forget to think about the players point of view when assessing the squad for next season. What players might WANT to leave in the summer. We always assume they all want to stay, whereas in JJ's case I'd expect him to want to move on.

He won't be 1st choice anymore and I think thats been made obvious. If he's lucky, it'll be up to him to accept a squad position and be ready to give it everything when called upon. If he's not lucky then Harry already is looking to offload him. Either way, its a steep enough fall from grace for an ambitious player who has spent the last few years (in his mind anyway) knocking on the door of the England team. I could see Villa or Everton tempting him away and Harry happy to search for a replacement (or talk to O'Hara).

Agree with the rest of you're post though...
Lets not get bogged down with Jenas, I only started with him because that's where Krafty finishes.
If we make 4th I expect him to want to be part of that step up as a player who will be again part of the squad.

Harry has not given any indication that he will not be part of his plans and he has been absent from the bench only through injury.
I disagreed with Krafty because of his assertion that Sandro will be a threat to Jenas rather than Palacios.

I am known as a defender of JJ, though I can see his limitations, and have been roundly mocked for it. Also as a lukewarm admirer of Palacios and again criticised for that attitude.
It is not a fantasy on his part that he has been knocking on the England door, it is a fact, under at least three managers.

Anyway lets move on.
I think he is peripheral to the squad now as you imply and if Harry wants to cash in while he can in search of upgrades I wouldn't be too upset, or with Bentley, Crouch, Keane (remember him?) and one or two others including Ekotto who has certainly improved but is a liability because of his temperament. Especially if it is true that we have to sell before we can buy.

If we make 4th I think Harry will be given upgrade funds in any case but squad numbers are limited next season and much more care will have to be given to age and nationality considerations.

I have campaigned for a couple of years for stability and steady improvement and think that the original article speaks to this agenda

To be honest I always assume that all players yearn to be part of the Tottenham experience and I'm shocked if they want to move on. :)
 

dontcallme

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I agree in general. I've been impressed with the change in attitude from Pav and Bentley and I'm hoping for only minor changes in the summer. We need a minor tweaking rather than a full clear out.

I'm not fully convinced by any of our strikers and we need someone who at least has the potential to be top quality. Falcao has been mentionned and if we can get someone like this then someone has to make way. Keane is probably off (not definite) so one of JD, Crouch, Pav or Gudjohnsen will have to also make way (I'm aware EG isn't actually ours yet).

With two games to go we have beaten our best points tally since the Prem began so we need to keep the main contributors together. Selling Keane, Bentley, Pav, Dos Santos and Jenas wouldn't really bother me though.
 

gusrowe

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We have just beaten Man City and Crouch scored the winning goal. Less than 24 hours later its Crouch out..why he has done us proud this season.
Pavy has been well below par the past few games but you don't want him out.
I also think Jenas needs another crack of the whip. 'Arry gave Bentley and Pavy a chance and has been proven right. Jenas had been carrying an injury for a long time before his surgery and it must have affected his performances.
Kaboul has been hammered as also shite on this site not only the first time around at Spurs but alosand when 'Arry signed him again in January. Again 'Arry was right.
Sandros is a replacement for O'Hara in my view not Jenas.
We need another back up goalkeeper(there is a famous Danish/Man U goalkeeper's son who has just been released by Notts County...over wages not performance) maybe another CH ( its still a risk with Ledley, also Woodgate may not return but on the other hand Kaboul is settling in and I think this is 'Arrys long term plan and also with Corluka...versatilty is important).
If we could also get Tevez it would be a dream come true as he would fit into this Spurs team.
Players out is always hard and it saddens me to say but I think Keane(ouch),O'Hara(ouch),Woodgate(ouch), Di Santos, Trabreet (can't spell it so thats reason enough!) Button, Alwick, Walker & Hutton. :shrug:
 

Krafty

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The demise of Jenas has been much exaggerated and I would be surprised if he were to be sold. Sandro is back up for Palacios and when he settles possibly a replacement.

I do not think Sandro will be a direct replacement for Jenas, more that he will push Jenas further down the line. JJ will surely not be happy being behind Huddlestone, Palacios, Sandro and probably even Modric in central midfield.

Unless Modric starts getting a lot more goals (may depend on a change in formation to give him more license to get forward) there is still room for a goal scoring midfielder, which should have been Jenas but as I say he has been too inconsistent. I think it might suit both parties if he leaves
 
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