Kyle Walker - opinion poll

[Gaz_Gammon]

On the fence.

Get off, your'l break it...........

 

[Gaz_Gammon]

When Walker was dropped (and he was absolutely, one hundred percent dropped) the team did not miss a beat.

Poch knows what he is doing, has protected the squad and sent out a nailed on message of unity, commitment to the cause and underlined his philosophy to every player at the Club, and all whilst giving Pep a lesson that dealing with Levy is like catching a case of the piles.

 

[raggy]

Reminds me a bit of some of the surprising sales Sir Alex made during his career. Sometimes it's time for a player to go even if they seem to be important.

So long as it's completely Pochettino's call I'm very happy with the decision.

The reason why it seems odd I think is because we never get to this point where a coach has been with us for this many years normally. Usually it's the manager who goes.

 

[Gaz_Gammon]

Take a butchers at this for a compelling insight:

http://www.football.london/tottenha...trippier-selection-dilemma-tottenham-12873413

And when it comes to the attacking statistics, Trippier begins to build his case for a start. His crossing last weekend came in for a lot of praise, grabbing one assist for Son’s second goal but deserving another, putting in an excellent cross that should have been converted by Vincent Janssen in the first half.
And the stats back up Trippier’s superior delivery. He’s been successful on 19% of his crosses compared to Walker’s 13%, and even more impressively he has got just two less assists than Walker despite featuring in 21 fewer games.

 

[nightgoat]

We've sold a member of our first XI to a rival. No matter how you spin it that's a bad move. And in the current market where Nathan Ake goes for £20m, £50m for a player who is the best in his position in the league, in his prime to a club with literally bottomless pockets is not enough. Van Dijk is being touted at £70m and he's not even in the best five centre backs in the Premier League, and is only one year younger than Walker. It sounds ridiculous but when those sorts of fees are being thrown around, we should have been getting at least £15-20m more, even if it's just because it's Oil Money FC who can be held to ransom for every transfer.

 

[NorthernYido]

Always believed walker is overrated, relies too much on his pace to get out of trouble. Trippier is the better fb imo. Not great he'll be going to a rival but I think it's right to sell for that money. Guardiola must be mad and I honestly don't believe his game will improve under him, possibly even suffer.

 

[Ron Burgundy]

Is the poll not too limited?

If we go out and buy a well picked replacement (we all have a sense who that is) shortly and if it also kicks off our bid for Barkley, then it maybe turn out that it was a good thing.

For now I'm on the fence as it depends what we use the money for. If we dick around with targets till the 11th hour then I'd say it's been a mess.

What I will say is that as Walker loses his pace over the coming years, he'll be a much less impactful player.

It could well be that we essentially swap Walker (27, with a very good player to replace him already) for Perriera and Barkley (both 23). On the face of it I don't think that's bad business. That we're strengthening City is more of an issue, but I think they're going to be pretty bloody strong next year anyway

 

[Ribble]

Really like Walker as a player, but if he's gone up against the gaffer and Poch wants him gone then we've managed to get a good fee for him.

 

[mkkid]

What I can't understand is why city didn't buy Tripper.Oh it's suddenly come to me, walker is quicker, stronger and a better defender but then tripper can cross a ball.
Walker has probably been our best right back in since Danny Thomas only Carr can come close.

 

[widmerpool]

As Zhou Enlai said of the French Revolution, it's too early to say.

 

[Ron Burgundy]

Another point I'd make is that we need to build some media momentum (for want of a less sh*t phrase) for next year

Right no it's a fun story for most journalists to write about how 'we're the only team yet to make a signing', how 'barca are bidding for Ali' and how 'Dier is pushing for a Man Utd move'.

I doubt there's much if any truth in either of the latter, but we're easy fodder right now and I think perception of unrest can sometimes turn to reality if we're not careful.

At the opposite end of the spectrum, look at the positive vibes surrounding Everton right now - even though they've sold their best player, look like losing their second best player and have bought well, but certainly expensively and with few players that I'm actually disappointed that we didn't get, there seems to be a 'big six could be a big seven next year'. Not saying that statement is wrong but you could easily see it another way.

If we make some smart signings soon (Perreira, Foyth and Barkley to kick things off) and then supplement them perhaps with a couple of promising kids (not necessarily Meyer, but someone of that ilk - talented and young) then actually things start to look prety good and we can shut all this Man Utd poaching our players bollox down. It's unsettling for the players and we could do without it.

 

[tommo84]

When Walker was dropped (and he was absolutely, one hundred percent dropped) the team did not miss a beat.

Poch knows what he is doing, has protected the squad and sent out a nailed on message of unity, commitment to the cause and underlined his philosophy to every player at the Club, and all whilst giving Pep a lesson that dealing with Levy is like catching a case of the piles.

I agree with all of this, but I remain fearful that in the current transfer market - where fees and player valuations seem to go up by £10m every fortnight - Levy's hardball approach will hinder us more so than ever before and we'll struggle to land any targets. This isn't Levy-bashing - his approach is completely justified by the new stadium build and the associated debt - but it feels like this is a crap time to be trying to balance the books when other clubs are taking their spending to unprecedented levels, and its making it almost impossible to find any value in the market when even average players are commanding fees of c.£30m

 

[dontcallme]

I have voted On The Fence.

I just don't see it as that black and white an issue.

If he wants to leave and go back up north then eventually player power will take place eventually. We don't want to keep players who don't want to be here and we have seen what a good atmosphere at the club has produced over the last 2 seasons.

But Walker is a very good right back and now appears to be coming into his prime. It's a shame to have gone through all the ups and downs of his development then not have him at his best.

So while we are going to be slightly weaker with him gone I think Trippier is proving to be more than capable of taking over.

We're losing a good player, not a great one.

 

[Danners9]

On the fence.

He wasn't always as good as he has become, and even now he's prone to the occasional error - letting his man go, misjudging crosses the most common. His pace has been a huge asset and it's one thing that will fade in time, maybe not just yet though.

It's taken time to coach him to this level and a change in environment, instructions and coach may either see him get better or revert to pre-Poch. 50-55, is a good price for a player they want to sell/wants to leave, but I hope it doesn't become a habit.

 

[agrdavidsfan]

To be honest deep down im a bit upset he wants to leave as it makes me nervous for the other players in the squad.

But the rumours of him kicking off in training, then there was a rumour of him driving around hotspur way dangerously like a petulant child and the curb incident.

There's also a rumour him and his missus are in a bit of trouble and he wants to leave to have a fresh start away from london as he's known for the party lifestyle (hand's up who has not seen him out in oceana in watford).

It may be a combination of all the things above so in all honesty 55 Million is a fine deal for the club we overall will be adding to the squad and losing one that was probably expendable.

We will buy a right back but people are forgetting we also have in our ranks Dier,KWP,Toby who can all also play there in emergency it is not the end of the world even with some bad luck with injuries we could still line up

Lloris
Dier Toby Jan Davies Rose (if wimmer is leaving)

Wanyama Dembele Eriksen

Kane Alli

or with no injuries

Lloris
Trippier Dier Toby Jan Rose

Wanyama Dembele Eriksen

Kane Alli

Which would leave us with a bench of

Vorm,Davies,Son,Lamela,Sissoko,Barkley,janssen....plus more

 

[agrdavidsfan]

May I add,

I actually think he's lost a tiny bit of his pace in the last year and the club would know and see that especially with his injury record it could be the right time to cash in.

 

[mpickard2087]

What I can't understand is why city didn't buy Tripper.Oh it's suddenly come to me, walker is quicker, stronger and a better defender but then tripper can cross a ball.
Walker has probably been our best right back in since Danny Thomas only Carr can come close.

....And he's fallen out with the manager, who's concluded he is no longer totally committed to the cause so he has to go. That's why he has gone and Trippier is still here.

 

[THFCjosh]

I'm not so sure it's as easy as saying yes it's the right decision or no it's the wrong one. It comes down to if we replace him correctly or if we waste the money on a cheap alternative who won't fill the void.

There is no denying Walker has been a key part of the best defence for the past few seasons, however, I believe that is mostly down to the system. Three extremely mobile centre backs came to his rescue time and time again. Think before Poch, albeit he was less experienced but apart from his break through season where he won YPOTY he was a disappointment, he flattered to deceive whilst making errors often resulting in conceding. He immensely relies on his pace to get him out of trouble which is fine if you have to the pace and. That pace will drop through the years. He seems to have no footballing brain whatsoever and makes the wrong decisions multiple times throughout a game.

Even though he has many shortcomings his pace pretty much eradicates that, for the time being anyway. He will be sorely missed if we don't get a sufficient replacement. But I don't think he is irreplaceable. So on the fence until we sign his replacement.

On a personal note however, I loved Walker, his engagement with the fans was brilliant with his Halloween pranks or social media and also seemed to have time for fans out in public too. No hard feelings towards him leaving and I wish him the best, except when he plays against Spurs.

 

[garryparkerschest]

I personally loved Walker when he first came to our club. I thought the lad had potential but bar his first season and the last two, he has either been injured or very inconsistent in his performances.

Last season was arguably his best season and he was still making mistakes in the defensive and final thirds.

Although we will miss dynamism, pace and physicality I feel Tripper will be an upgrade due to the quality he offers in the final third.

I can see Trippier being England's first choice right back by the end of the season.

I perosanlly think he are well covered in the right back area, in Kyle Walker Peters we have a right back potentially better than Tripper and Kyle Walker.

I'd invest the money received in different positions and spend it on a quality addition.

 

[Francis Gibbs]

awful decision, Walker in his prime with him and Rose best two fullbacks in the PL and was integral to our best shape.

Poch should have made it work and Levy should have said no to the money ... as if that was going to happen