Kyle Walker

[Snarfalicious]

I'm already moving on from Walker. There's far too much ITK signaling his move away, and I feel like it's a matter of when not if at this point.

In my opinion, the only player that we could feasibly get and would lessen the blow of losing Walker is Nelson Semedo. I don't see Alves ever coming here, so have a hard time even factoring him into any equation.

Semedo is going to cost a TON of money. As I've said previously, the "Semedo Sweepstakes" are going to heat up even more if Walker is sold. For that reason, it's imperative we get in there as early as possible. In a way, it'd be best to string the suitors for Walker along while we pursue Semedo. I'm not naive enough to think things happen in such a linear way, but it might be our best (and only) hope of actually getting a player who can push Trippier immediately and also could improve on Walker very close to their arrival.

 

[$hoguN]

Is it just me who think Pochettino must have faith in Walker-Peters if we are letting Walker go as I can't see us bringing a replacement in

 

[Snarfalicious]

Is it just me who think Pochettino must have faith in Walker-Peters if we are letting Walker go as I can't see us bringing a replacement in

It's a possibility. It's also a little concerning just due to I think there are still significant questions regarding Trippier's defensive abilities and KWP's lack of experience.

 

[Ossie85]

No. I get the sense that man City will move on long before that. They are here to do business, not get jerked around.

And what's the problem with that?
If they move on, we may get to keep Walker, which imo has more value to us than 50m in the bank

 

[$hoguN]

It's a possibility. It's also a little concerning just due to I think there are still significant questions regarding Trippier's defensive abilities and KWP's lack of experience.

Personally I think there are question marks over Walker's defending too. His positioning remains questionable, he relies on pace for recovery and has an awful habit of pulling shirts which leads to cheap free kicks. Slight defensive vulnerability seems to be the standard for most full backs nowadays

 

[Snarfalicious]

Personally I think there are big question marks over Walker's defending too. His positioning remains questionable, he relies on pace for recovery and has an awful habit of pulling shirts which leads to cheap free kicks. Slight defensive vulnerability seems to be the standard for most full backs nowadays

I don't know about that. Sure, he does stupid shit, but, I look at that United game a few weeks ago. Martial torched Trippier and when Walker came on he immediately shut him down and quite frankly made it look easy. Walker can be super derpy at times, but those derpiness tendencies have greatly reduced in recent years and as a result we now have a really good RB.

 

[$hoguN]

I don't know about that. Sure, he does stupid shit, but, I look at that United game a few weeks ago. Martial torched Trippier and when Walker came on he immediately shut him down and quite frankly made it look easy. Walker can be super derpy at times, but those derpiness tendencies have greatly reduced in recent years and as a result we now have a really good RB.

That post wasn't me saying that Walker is not a good right back btw. I was just making the point that he also has defensive vulnerabilities

 

[Snarfalicious]

That post wasn't me saying that Walker is not a good right back btw. I was just making the point that he also has defensive vulnerabilities

Fair enough. And I see what you're saying. Walker's got the history that when he does bad things we immediately think of the Walker we had grown accustomed to. The Liverpool/Downing goal Walker. It's made him an easy target and when things go awry and Walker's partly to blame, it just all kind of falls into place.

And, in a way, it gives me extra faith in Pochettino. For some reason, he makes fullbacks better. Every single one of our fullbacks have improved under Pochettino. It's why I LOVE the idea of Semedo. But, if Pochettino is enamored with KWP and thinks he can be the guy, who am I to say he's wrong?

 

[LexingtonSpurs]

And what's the problem with that?
If they move on, we may get to keep Walker, which imo has more value to us than 50m in the bank

I am sorry - where did I say that was a problem?

ETA - if Walker does not want to be here - it becomes a big headache...and we will make less money, and have less money to strengthen elsewhere...

 

[shelfboy68]

Fair enough. And I see what you're saying. Walker's got the history that when he does bad things we immediately think of the Walker we had grown accustomed to. The Liverpool/Downing goal Walker. It's made him an easy target and when things go awry and Walker's partly to blame, it just all kind of falls into place.

And, in a way, it gives me extra faith in Pochettino. For some reason, he makes fullbacks better. Every single one of our fullbacks have improved under Pochettino. It's why I LOVE the idea of Semedo. But, if Pochettino is enamored with KWP and thinks he can be the guy, who am I to say he's wrong?

I think it's unlikely that semedo would come to us as it's more likely a much cheaper option will be pursed and purchased.

 

[spursfan77]

No. I get the sense that man City will move on long before that. They are here to do business, not get jerked around.

Good. They won't be signing him then if that's their approach. We hold all the cards not them.

 

[Snarfalicious]

I think it's unlikely that semedo would come to us as it's more likely a much cheaper option will be pursed and purchased.

Yeah, that's my concern.

 

[LexingtonSpurs]

Good. They won't be signing him then if that's their approach. We hold all the cards not them.

We have a good hand. We don't hold all the cards.

If Walker does not want to be here - we have a problem. If we need to finance other moves to strengthen the club, we have a problem.

If Walker is happy to stay, and rotate with Trippier, and we have enough money to strengthen the other parts of the squad - then we are in good shape. I don't know the status of either of those things...reports have suggested Walker has burned bridges here, and that we are looking at "household" names - if both of those are true, then we simply need to move on and get the best deal we can, while not waiting for the last minute ourselves...

 

[millsey]

Is it just me who think Pochettino must have faith in Walker-Peters if we are letting Walker go as I can't see us bringing a replacement in

Just you

 

[bceej]

I'm already moving on from Walker. There's far too much ITK signaling his move away, and I feel like it's a matter of when not if at this point.

In my opinion, the only player that we could feasibly get and would lessen the blow of losing Walker is Nelson Semedo. I don't see Alves ever coming here, so have a hard time even factoring him into any equation.

Semedo is going to cost a TON of money. As I've said previously, the "Semedo Sweepstakes" are going to heat up even more if Walker is sold. For that reason, it's imperative we get in there as early as possible. In a way, it'd be best to string the suitors for Walker along while we pursue Semedo. I'm not naive enough to think things happen in such a linear way, but it might be our best (and only) hope of actually getting a player who can push Trippier immediately and also could improve on Walker very close to their arrival.

Semedo is represented by Mendes - so who's option #2?

 

[Colonel_Klinck]

It's not Walkers defending that let's him down imo. He's even managed to eliminate the brain fart tackles from his game. It's his offensive game that is his weakness for me. Or more precisely his lack of a first time ball. If he had Trippier's vision and crossing ability he'd be world class. If he hasn't developed it by now he never will. A shame if he leaves but if I had to lose one player from the 11 it would probably be him.

 

[Ossie85]

I am sorry - where did I say that was a problem?

ETA - if Walker does not want to be here - it becomes a big headache...and we will make less money, and have less money to strengthen elsewhere...

You didn't, but I infer from the tone of your message that delaying the transfer is a bad thing.

Even if Walker doesn't want to be here, we are not going to be strong-armed to sell. Specially with Levy. If Man C move on, we will keep the player and Walker will have to adapt to the situation. He still has a long contract

 

[Ossie85]

Semedo is represented by Mendes - so who's option #2?

And he wants to put him in Barcelona

 

[LexingtonSpurs]

You didn't, but I infer from the tone of your message that delaying the transfer is a bad thing.

Even if Walker doesn't want to be here, we are not going to be strong-armed to sell. Specially with Levy. If Man C move on, we will keep the player and Walker will have to adapt to the situation. He still has a long contract

My point is - I think Man City will make their maximum offer to get Walker in. If that is not enough, they will move on to other targets. Nothing about "strong-arming" Levy or Spurs. City have the money, and want to get their business done. They must bring in a RB this summer.

The danger for Spurs, is IF they are counting on Walker money to fund other acquisitions, that money may not be there if City move on. Without City bidding, other teams will not feel the pressure to over-bid...so, delaying the transfer - could be a bad thing, if Spurs are relying on those funds to strengthen the squad.

So, bottom line - it's not always in our best interest to hold out on a transfer - it all depends on the bigger picture. This is not a Bale situation, where Madrid could wait until the end - City have to bring in a RB, and can't afford to wait until the end.

What we don't want, is a disgruntled player - like a Berahino - where we have to keep this year and sell for 50% next summer.

 

[kaz Hirai]

It's not Walkers defending that let's him down imo. He's even managed to eliminate the brain fart tackles from his game. It's his offensive game that is his weakness for me. Or more precisely his lack of a first time ball. If he had Trippier's vision and crossing ability he'd be world class. If he hasn't developed it by now he never will. A shame if he leaves but if I had to lose one player from the 11 it would probably be him.

He already is World class that's why some of the world's biggest clubs want him