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Lamela pays tribute to Tottenham fans

Gaz_Gammon

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There is no such thing as a spot for life. Son fought for his place having started on the bench. Im not saying lamela walks into the team. But if you can't see what he brought to the team then any discussion is pretty much futile.


Agreed, but your not answering the question. Who would be dropped to make way for the player you have called "super important"?

He's no more than a squad player, and for sure will not get in front of any of the current starting eleven. That much is obvious to anyone who watched this team the last two seasons.
 

Cinemattis

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At WHL in the beginning of October; our trashing of Man City - our best game of the entire season? Kane was out injured. Eriksen was still searching for his best game. Lamela was the star of that match.

To say that a fully fit Erik Lamela wouldn´t play an important part for our team, is simply silly and ignorant.
 

sebo_sek

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Agreed, but your not answering the question. Who would be dropped to make way for the player you have called "super important"?

He's no more than a squad player, and for sure will not get in front of any of the current starting eleven. That much is obvious to anyone who watched this team the last two seasons.
Just remember the semi in the FA cup. Having such "squad players" is the difference between winning and losing. You can't assess a team on the starting eleven alone. You need quality subs. Plus Son could be looking at a lengthy absence.
Do you seriously not see a role for Lamela? We're not at that stage yet, where we can shun such talent simply because we have terrific starters.
 

millsey

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He was instrumental in our pressing style the season before last and made a huge contribution. Would be great to see him at 10 once in a while as well. Hope he makes it back to full fitness and is ready for pre season.
I'm not sure we played that same tempo of pressing style last season. Not as much as before anyway
 

ralvy

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Lol at all those guys saying we don't need Lamela because we had our best PL season ever without him (for a large part). Guess what guys, we still weren't able to win shit last season other than giving Chelsea a bit of Challenge (a challenge that lasted only about 3 games btw).

If we want to give it a real go next season and add a trophy to our furniture, we will need all of Eriksen, Dele, Son and Lamela competing fiercely, week in, week out, for a place in the starting 11. All of these guys offer unique and valuable things to the team, and they all should have an important role to play next season.

And, who knows, maybe the likes of Winks and Onomah can join that competition too BTW (and we may also need to make an addition or two in the summer market).
 

TottenhamMattSpur

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This one of the great imponderables of life.
Would we have done better with him?
Nobody can say for certain.
My opinion is that he would have given us options which we didn't have.

See the poem 'The road not take' by Robert Frost.
We cannot go down two roads at once
and will not know what would have happened
if we had made a different choice.

Same with Lamela.
Circumstances decreed that he would not be available.
We only know what happened in this case.

Not that I disagree with your philosophical outlook, but we smashed our best ever PL league season to utter bits including the previous one which was pretty damn decent and he featured a lot in it.

Players are assets/liabilities. I look at him and just see rapidly diminishing value, which considering the €35m outlay, is, well it's not good.
 

JimmyG2

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Not that I disagree with your philosophical outlook, but we smashed our best ever PL league season to utter bits including the previous one which was pretty damn decent and he featured a lot in it.

Players are assets/liabilities. I look at him and just see rapidly diminishing value, which considering the €35m outlay, is, well it's not good.

So you are saying that we couldn't have done any better
even with Lamela.
I'm simply saying you can't know that.
Anyway I like the boy
and you friend are lost in the woods
having chosen the wrong path.
 

Chris_D

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A fully fit Lamela would be a huge asset to have. I'm hoping next season...
 

Gaz_Gammon

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Just remember the semi in the FA cup. Having such "squad players" is the difference between winning and losing. You can't assess a team on the starting eleven alone. You need quality subs. Plus Son could be looking at a lengthy absence.
Do you seriously not see a role for Lamela? We're not at that stage yet, where we can shun such talent simply because we have terrific starters.

Son has a fracture and if in the remotest case of missing a game (he can play like Vardy did in a soft cast), Sissoko will likely be in front of Lamela anyway.

I don't doubt he can be a squad player, but go back and read your original post. You never mentioned anything about the squad only that

"He was super important and will hopefully come back and pick up where he left off"

He may well come back but will not be a starter, far from being super important in the grand scale of this team.
 

sebo_sek

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Son has a fracture and if in the remotest case of missing a game (he can play like Vardy did in a soft cast), Sissoko will likely be in front of Lamela anyway.

I don't doubt he can be a squad player, but go back and read your original post. You never mentioned anything about the squad only that

"He was super important and will hopefully come back and pick up where he left off"

He may well come back but will not be a starter, far from being super important in the grand scale of this team.
OK then. In the grand scale (this term would actually indicate precisely placers like Lamela BTW), who out of the current team wasn't important?

Pick up where he left off meaning his game, not necessarily place in the squad. If we sell Lamela, then he needs to be replaced for tens of millions of pounds. Or do you see a football team as solely a group of eleven people? In that case we should sell all of our subs.
Also tell me please which of our subs are important if Lamela isn't?
 

TottenhamMattSpur

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So you are saying that we couldn't have done any better
even with Lamela.
I'm simply saying you can't know that.
Anyway I like the boy
and you friend are lost in the woods
having chosen the wrong path.

I'm not saying that at all. I agree, we'll never know. But to add some fuel to the flame - we might have done worse...
 

Cinemattis

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Son has a fracture and if in the remotest case of missing a game (he can play like Vardy did in a soft cast), Sissoko will likely be in front of Lamela anyway.

I don't doubt he can be a squad player, but go back and read your original post. (...) He may well come back but will not be a starter, far from being super important in the grand scale of this team.

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Good one, mate ;) funniest comment of the Silly Season! (y)
 

Jenko

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yeah if Sissoko is seen touching a football next season then it means we need more Lamela's.
 

Ionman34

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I'm not saying that at all. I agree, we'll never know. But to add some fuel to the flame - we might have done worse...
True, but unlikely.

The law of averages would suggest that his contribution may have seen us turn some of those draws to wins and some to losses, say 50/50. With the way the points are distributed, that would mean we'd have gained more points, so his contribution would have been a positive one.

As has been stated though, we'll never know.
 

Shadydan

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Son has a fracture and if in the remotest case of missing a game (he can play like Vardy did in a soft cast), Sissoko will likely be in front of Lamela anyway.

I don't doubt he can be a squad player, but go back and read your original post. You never mentioned anything about the squad only that

"He was super important and will hopefully come back and pick up where he left off"

He may well come back but will not be a starter, far from being super important in the grand scale of this team.

Such a desperate argument lol
 

Gaz_Gammon

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yeah if Sissoko is seen touching a football next season then it means we need more Lamela's.


We actually need players who can actually.......er...be available to play.

85 games since 2013, and he's not even guaranteed to regain his fitness at this point in time.

Regarding Sissoko, the same can be said for the return from the investment in Janssen last season, or Son when he first joined the club.

Some players need more time to settle and even Poch is stating that fact that the system we play and training methods are unlike most clubs.
 
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