Lamela
- Thread starter bigpalacios
- Start date
- Status
Was it my imagination or did Lamela not come on last weekend, win a header, then dribble the ball into the box with his head up, finding Paulinho for the goal with a great pass? I really thought that would've given AVB the perfect opportunity to insert him into the starting line-up for this Chelsea match. At the very least, I thought he'd play a few minutes today.
As for Lamela's skill set and adapting, this guy isn't some developmental player. Neither Capoue, nor Eriksen had seasons anywhere near as good as Lamela (best player on a team consisting of Totti, Pjanic, Osvaldo, De Rossi), who played in a significantly tougher league than Ligue 1 and Eredevisie. Yet they've both gotten starts.
Some will disagree, but I thought AVB waited way too long to introduce Lloris last season. I think if he was inserted right away, we would've performed better earlier at the back, and likely made top 4 (Lloris wasn't a regular until late November).
At the end of the day, we don't have the financial clout to just spend 30 million pounds on a player and have him not start a majority of league matches. That's especially true when you've spent another 26.8 million pounds on a striker who needs service at his feet from players who play with their head up looking for others to make runs (something Townsend typically does not do).
Furthermore, this is a World Cup year and he's currently in the Argentina squad. There's no way he's staying there by being a Cup player for us.
I just hope he gets a chance to play more than 20 minutes against West Ham next weekend.
As for Lamela's skill set and adapting, this guy isn't some developmental player. Neither Capoue, nor Eriksen had seasons anywhere near as good as Lamela (best player on a team consisting of Totti, Pjanic, Osvaldo, De Rossi), who played in a significantly tougher league than Ligue 1 and Eredevisie. Yet they've both gotten starts.
Some will disagree, but I thought AVB waited way too long to introduce Lloris last season. I think if he was inserted right away, we would've performed better earlier at the back, and likely made top 4 (Lloris wasn't a regular until late November).
At the end of the day, we don't have the financial clout to just spend 30 million pounds on a player and have him not start a majority of league matches. That's especially true when you've spent another 26.8 million pounds on a striker who needs service at his feet from players who play with their head up looking for others to make runs (something Townsend typically does not do).
Furthermore, this is a World Cup year and he's currently in the Argentina squad. There's no way he's staying there by being a Cup player for us.
I just hope he gets a chance to play more than 20 minutes against West Ham next weekend.
kaz Hirai
Well-Known Member
- Nov 5, 2008
- 17,692
- 25,340
lol partly your imagination I think! Didn't holtby play him into space wide with a sweet pass to which Lamela then played a cross to Paulinho to score?
Rather the slightly more of the rovers version you imagined of him winning a header, dribbling into the box then crossing for paulinho
lol partly your imagination I think! Didn't holtby play him into space wide with a sweet pass to which Lamela then played a cross to Paulinho to score?
Rather the slightly more of the rovers version you imagined of him winning a header, dribbling into the box then crossing for paulinho
You're right, Holtby played a very nice pass into space, which I should've mentioned, but Lamela did win an aerial duel which placed the ball at Holtby's feet. The point was, Lamela certainly didn't look out of his depth in his 20 minute cameo against a Cardiff side we couldn't score against for 92 minutes.
If we want the best out of Soldado, I think Lamela is going to need to be on the pitch with him. I think AVB gets that, and will adjust accordingly, hopefully soon.
Spurger King
can't smile without glue
- Jul 22, 2008
- 43,881
- 95,147
AVB probably overheard Mourinho plotting to break Lamela's legs if he came on.
OmarsComing
Mentally Disturbed Individual!
- Jan 2, 2011
- 7,255
- 7,665
Lamela's cross for the goal was amazing - tricked the defender into thinking he was going to cross with his right foot, then nut-megged him with his left.
dannythomas
Well-Known Member
- May 17, 2004
- 3,757
- 2,813
He has to start. He is a class above all our other wide players. And he can score goals which is proving difficult right now. I was very disappointed he didn't start today and even more so that he didn't come on at all.
Francis Gibbs
Well-Known Member
- Jul 17, 2012
- 4,326
- 4,569
Agree we all know it's just a matter of time but needs to happen now imo, when Townsend was taken off today we had next to no threat
Francis Gibbs
Well-Known Member
- Jul 17, 2012
- 4,326
- 4,569
Problem was Soldado was so poor today he no choice but to swap him with Defoe
pvg
Active Member
- Sep 16, 2008
- 45
- 162
The problem is that Townsend is playing very well, he's going past players for fun and looking dangerous... The most difficult thing for a winger is to consistently beat your man and he's doing it. Sure, his decision making with his final ball and shooting has been a little off but he's only played a handful of games for us and if that came (and it could, it could) he would and could be more than a 30 million pound player. Bale certainly didn't start scoring and making assists for us from the start... Of course, the chance of him making the same kind of impact as Bale is slim BUT it's a lot better if he's playing in the first team and knows he has AVB's trust.
Already, if Paulinho had scored from his great run and through ball at the end of the first half then he would be getting more plaudits and less of the 'no end product, always shoots when he should pass' talk from his critics.
And I think it's different for Eriksen because he's playing a position we were really lacking in... It made sense for him to come into the first team straight away because we needed a creative attacking midfielder. If Townsend had been loaned out again and we were struggling on the right wing then I'm sure Lamela would have started these game in the premier league.
I would imagine that when we bought Lamela we didn't know how dangerous Townsend would look... that's tough for Lamela but it's a long season, we have many games in many competitions and he'll get plenty of chances to show his stuff. In order to build a real team it's important to have consistency and not make knee-jerk reactions. If Lamela beats out Townsend then it should be for footballing reasons not his price tag. I like Townsend but I wouldn't be upset if that happend, it would mean that Lamela had shown our training staff that he could be even better.
Already, if Paulinho had scored from his great run and through ball at the end of the first half then he would be getting more plaudits and less of the 'no end product, always shoots when he should pass' talk from his critics.
And I think it's different for Eriksen because he's playing a position we were really lacking in... It made sense for him to come into the first team straight away because we needed a creative attacking midfielder. If Townsend had been loaned out again and we were struggling on the right wing then I'm sure Lamela would have started these game in the premier league.
I would imagine that when we bought Lamela we didn't know how dangerous Townsend would look... that's tough for Lamela but it's a long season, we have many games in many competitions and he'll get plenty of chances to show his stuff. In order to build a real team it's important to have consistency and not make knee-jerk reactions. If Lamela beats out Townsend then it should be for footballing reasons not his price tag. I like Townsend but I wouldn't be upset if that happend, it would mean that Lamela had shown our training staff that he could be even better.
nssmuckers
Active Member
- Jul 2, 2013
- 284
- 900
Alternatively, some people actually watched him at Roma and have come to the reasonable conclusion that giving him a run out in Kerplackistan every other Thursday doesn't do the player justice.
He's a bigger talent than Eriksen and could be every bit as influential. I can understand easing him in because he's young and is probably making a much bigger adjustment than our other signings, but if this is the situation in a month or so I will be pretty pissed about it.
How he didn't get on the pitch at all against Chelsea is mind-boggling. I actually rate Chadli quite high compared to most people here, but fucking seriously?
FITZ
Well-Known Member
- May 17, 2004
- 2,019
- 1,522
You would choose Chadli over Lennon?
Dr Know
SC Supporter
- Aug 21, 2008
- 11,603
- 9,415
I think some of you need to realise that AVB is a proven football coach/manager. I guess it's the same bunch on here who threw a wobbler when he played Brad ahead of Lloris. If Chadli came on and scored (which he is more capable of than the soldier ATM) it would have been called a stroke of genius by AVB.
The worst thing about this is we have threads like "lets laugh at (insert team)" on here but really I can just imagine a seven year old laughing at some of the shit posted on here
The worst thing about this is we have threads like "lets laugh at (insert team)" on here but really I can just imagine a seven year old laughing at some of the shit posted on here
Basil Brush
Well-Known Member
- Aug 20, 2013
- 1,691
- 3,080
Imo, avb stuffed up big time. Lamela with his touch and skills would have been perfect as a sub against chelsea as opposed to a more physical, less skilful team like a stoke.
He should have been first sub on. Can play either side or behind striker.
On another note, off topic, I don't get the holtby substitution. Has great energy and runs around a lot but not a great sub against decent opposition. I see him as our scott parker type which is perfect against lesser opposition. Chadli was also bad sub. I will give avb a pass mark on defoe sub.
I know its all hindsight but it didn't make sense even at the time.
He should have been first sub on. Can play either side or behind striker.
On another note, off topic, I don't get the holtby substitution. Has great energy and runs around a lot but not a great sub against decent opposition. I see him as our scott parker type which is perfect against lesser opposition. Chadli was also bad sub. I will give avb a pass mark on defoe sub.
I know its all hindsight but it didn't make sense even at the time.
EastLondonYid
Well-Known Member
- Jan 26, 2010
- 7,837
- 16,145
We have a quality squad, but the only way a squad can work is that when the team is flying the players who are performing keep their place, otherwise next time they are picked they may feel ''whats the point i'll be replaced anyway''
Lamela will get his chance, surely we didn't pay 30m on a sub, but so long as this run continues , than he'll have to wait, i did however expect him to get a run out 2nd half, but only AVB knows why he didn't , and lets trust AVB's judgement.
Lamela will get his chance, surely we didn't pay 30m on a sub, but so long as this run continues , than he'll have to wait, i did however expect him to get a run out 2nd half, but only AVB knows why he didn't , and lets trust AVB's judgement.
michaelden
Knight of the Fat Fanny
- Aug 13, 2004
- 26,403
- 21,716
I want Lamela ahead of townsend. He is the much better prospect and current talent
Shadydan
Well-Known Member
- Jul 7, 2012
- 38,247
- 104,143
Yes he does, also comparing the two players Soldado has a bag of experience playing at the top level whilst Lamela is still just a kid
- Status
