Lamela

[jezz]

The same Lennon that has been our most consistent attacking player in our most consistently successful era in 30 years? Yeh, hilarious........! Are you saying that Townsend or Lamela have looked better than Lennon at his best? Even close?

yep lennon looked this good at 20.
er wait a minute has he ever looked this good

 

[walworthyid]

yep lennon looked this good at 20.
er wait a minute has he ever looked this good

I really like lamela and think he will be a star for us. However my original comment was about how much we miss lennon. Lamela has not done much in the prem and had lennon been fit on saturday avb would have turned to him rather than lamela because of that. If and when lamela is a better prem player than lennon avb will let us know buy playing him. At the moment he is not.

So you can show me as many youtube vids as you want, lennon has a few of his own..

 

[jezz]

I rate lennon as decent player.
However i dont think we have missed him. Were not losing and 3rd in the epl.
Lennon had the right wing nailed when he is fit and therein lies the problem.
He had no competition for his place. Now though lamela and townsend for that berth.
Hopefully he will pick up his game and learn how to look up once he beats his man.
Although i see lamela nailing this position.
But as a squad player, i still think he has something to offer

 

[Roynie]

yep lennon looked this good at 20.
er wait a minute has he ever looked this good

Lamela does have very good ball control, which lennon has displayed at times. However, the defenders in that video were woefully disorganised and to compare the two on that basis is unrealistic. AVB has been quoted, somewhere on this site, that he doesn't speak English yet and that is a consideration (I'm paraphrasing here) on his selection.

I believe that in his apperances he has shown real promise, but I am not sure that he is quite ready for the pace of the premiership as yet. I hope he develops into a world beater, but for now I would rather start Lennon than Lamela. However, in a few months time that may change!

 

[jezz]

every one has there opinion and i respect that.
Lamela all day for me.
But im not AVB so only time will tell

 

[Bus-Conductor]

The same Lennon that has been our most consistent attacking player in our most consistently successful era in 30 years? Yeh, hilarious........! Are you saying that Townsend or Lamela have looked better than Lennon at his best? Even close?

The trouble is, I have genuinely forgotten what Lennon's best is. It's been so long and such a rare occurrence. I would say 80% of his games he's been virtually anonymous. Another 10% he's been good but not exceptional, and 8% he's been pretty good and 2% very very good.

His actual productivity for many seasons has been pretty abysmal for an attacking player. In 8 seasons for us he's only broke double figures (and then only just) three times for goals and assists combined.

Honestly, I don't think Townsend is a polished performer, he's a bit headless at times, and possibly isn't the long term answer to the ARM (I think lamela probably is when he gets going) but right now I wouldn't swap in Lennon because Townsend seems to having a far bigger impact on games than Lennon usually does. And I honestly wouldn't have thought I'd have said that a few months ago.

 

[lenny7]

I think he will know the people in the starting line up, he wont need to be introduced, he may even be on first name terms already.

And you sir win the internet. Well played everyone, good game. Power off, we're done here.

 

[Roynie]

I am not defending Lennon here but his threat on the field is more than just what he does, it's also about what he CAN do. That has been proven. He has lots of pace, can change direction, just ask Evra, and can deliver the ball into the box - albeit not as regularly as we wopuld all like!

At the moment Lamela is the great unknown. As such defenders aren't going to be intimidated by his reputation - that will come, but not just yet. So for me it is a case of introducing Lamela slowly, don't let him get kicked to death too quickly and let him find his way in his own time. He will come good!

 

[dagraham]

I'm convinced Lennon and Lemala can play together.

 

[kaz Hirai]

Lennon, Townsend, Sigurdsson, Lamela, and Chadli. It's great to be able to debate now if lennon should be in the side rather than the usual worry about looking unbalanced because he is injuried

 

[E17yid]

I think Bobby and Azza blud could link up well. Soldado loves a cut back.

Admit that the bench is probably where he belongs but I still think, when fit, he can still be a very important player this season. Didn't he get the most assists last year?

 

[nferno]

Lennon upped his game when Bentley arrived, I'm hoping for the same with the arrival of Lamela and emergence of Townsend.

 

[ajspurs]

The trouble is, I have genuinely forgotten what Lennon's best is. It's been so long and such a rare occurrence. I would say 80% of his games he's been virtually anonymous. Another 10% he's been good but not exceptional, and 8% he's been pretty good and 2% very very good.

His actual productivity for many seasons has been pretty abysmal for an attacking player. In 8 seasons for us he's only broke double figures (and then only just) three times for goals and assists combined.

Honestly, I don't think Townsend is a polished performer, he's a bit headless at times, and possibly isn't the long term answer to the ARM (I think lamela probably is when he gets going) but right now I wouldn't swap in Lennon because Townsend seems to having a far bigger impact on games than Lennon usually does. And I honestly wouldn't have thought I'd have said that a few months ago.

 

[SoulDog]

Deffo needs to start IMO he is going to be class and already has shown glimpses of what he can do

 

[walworthyid]

The trouble is, I have genuinely forgotten what Lennon's best is. It's been so long and such a rare occurrence. I would say 80% of his games he's been virtually anonymous. Another 10% he's been good but not exceptional, and 8% he's been pretty good and 2% very very good.

His actual productivity for many seasons has been pretty abysmal for an attacking player. In 8 seasons for us he's only broke double figures (and then only just) three times for goals and assists combined.

Honestly, I don't think Townsend is a polished performer, he's a bit headless at times, and possibly isn't the long term answer to the ARM (I think lamela probably is when he gets going) but right now I wouldn't swap in Lennon because Townsend seems to having a far bigger impact on games than Lennon usually does. And I honestly wouldn't have thought I'd have said that a few months ago.

Really? 80% of games Lennon has been anonymous? What to the point where we might as well be playing with 10 men? Sometimes (quite often actually but I'm trying to be polite) you just make sweeping statements that have no basis in reality. If you want to talk about players who are anonymous 80% of the time simply read Tom Huddlestone. But Lennon has been at the very least good in many, many games for us. He has been the single factor that has pushed teams back and allowed us to create opportunities even if those opportunities were directly created by him.

I'm sorry, but Lennon at this present time is a better prem player than either Lamela or Townsend and AVB agrees. He said just a couple of weeks ago that he was glad that Townsend had taken the opportunity awarded to him by Lennon's injury. He also said last season that Lennon was often just as important and effective as Bale but Bale got all of the headlines.

If he was anonymous as often as you claim he simply would not have played as many games as he has during our most successful era in a generation. It really is that simple.

 

[Tottenham_God]

Really? 80% of games Lennon has been anonymous? What to the point where we might as well be playing with 10 men? Sometimes (quite often actually but I'm trying to be polite) you just make sweeping statements that have no basis in reality. If you want to talk about players who are anonymous 80% of the time simply read Tom Huddlestone. But Lennon has been at the very least good in many, many games for us. He has been the single factor that has pushed teams back and allowed us to create opportunities even if those opportunities were directly created by him.

I'm sorry, but Lennon at this present time is a better prem player than either Lamela or Townsend and AVB agrees. He said just a couple of weeks ago that he was glad that Townsend had taken the opportunity awarded to him by Lennon's injury. He also said last season that Lennon was often just as important and effective as Bale but Bale got all of the headlines.

If he was anonymous as often as you claim he simply would not havfe played as many games as he has during our most successful era in a generation. It really is that simple.

Lennon is a crap RWF decent winger tho.

 

[Bus-Conductor]

Really? 80% of games Lennon has been anonymous? What to the point where we might as well be playing with 10 men? Sometimes (quite often actually but I'm trying to be polite) you just make sweeping statements that have no basis in reality. If you want to talk about players who are anonymous 80% of the time simply read Tom Huddlestone. But Lennon has been at the very least good in many, many games for us. He has been the single factor that has pushed teams back and allowed us to create opportunities even if those opportunities were directly created by him.

I'm sorry, but Lennon at this present time is a better prem player than either Lamela or Townsend and AVB agrees. He said just a couple of weeks ago that he was glad that Townsend had taken the opportunity awarded to him by Lennon's injury. He also said last season that Lennon was often just as important and effective as Bale but Bale got all of the headlines.

If he was anonymous as often as you claim he simply would not have played as many games as he has during our most successful era in a generation. It really is that simple.

In real terms, anonymous isn't fair. And of course I am exaggerating(I think). But a lot of the time his productivity and contribution to team play (passing, work off the ball, build up) is really minimal and unexceptional, the type of stuff that we could put an 18yo in there and he'd do. Run up and down, help the fb, see the ball about 20 times, create nothing of real quality chance wise etc.

I think I worked out that he comes up with an assist in 15% of his games. Goal/Assist combined 25%. So that 80% isn't quite the outrageous statement it seemed.

 

[walworthyid]

In real terms, anonymous isn't fair. And of course I am exaggerating(I think). But a lot of the time his productivity and contribution to team play (passing, work off the ball, build up) is really minimal and unexceptional, the type of stuff that we could put an 18yo in there and he'd do. Run up and down, help the fb, see the ball about 20 times, create nothing of real quality chance wise etc.

I think I worked out that he comes up with an assist in 15% of his games. Goal/Assist combined 25%. So that 80% isn't quite the outrageous statement it seemed.

This statement is indicative of the way that you view football. Statistics, statistics! So what you are attempting to say is that Lennon does what an 18 year old could do 75% of the time and does something useful (score or assist) 25% of the time?

So Redknapp, Jol, Ramos and AVB (as well as any England managers that have picked him) have been duped? They see him train and are professionals, but you are right?

I know who I would rather believe.

It is a great job that you aren't involved at spurs.

 

[dontcallme]

This statement is indicative of the way that you view football. Statistics, statistics! So what you are attempting to say is that Lennon does what an 18 year old could do 75% of the time and does something useful (score or assist) 25% of the time?

So Redknapp, Jol, Ramos and AVB (as well as any England managers that have picked him) have been duped? They see him train and are professionals, but you are right?

I know who I would rather believe.

It is a great job that you aren't involved at spurs.

It's a great job that none of us are involved at Spurs.

 

[Bus-Conductor]

This statement is indicative of the way that you view football. Statistics, statistics! So what you are attempting to say is that Lennon does what an 18 year old could do 75% of the time and does something useful (score or assist) 25% of the time?

So Redknapp, Jol, Ramos and AVB (as well as any England managers that have picked him) have been duped? They see him train and are professionals, but you are right?

I know who I would rather believe.

It is a great job that you aren't involved at spurs.

I think you're over reacting a bit to what I am saying. I quite like Lennon, I think he's a decent type to have in a squad of a team challenging to be 5th/6th/7th, but his actual productivity is pretty disappointing if you are a club trying to achieve regular champions football. There's not loads of better creative players in the bottom half of the league, and top drawer ones are invariably massively priced, so I understand why Lennon's been a regular for us, but we've moved up a notch, and to maintain it we have to improve on players like Lennon.

Don't be too hard on me, if I was DOF I would never have bought Demspey. Surely worth employing me for that alone.