"In the next five years Spurs will have to look at these stadium options."

I am no expert in this stuff but is he saying that we'll look at our options sometime within 5 years with no promise of firm decision or we will have dealt with this within 5 years?

I suspect it is the former but hope it isn't, so sometime in the 2010's we'll have expanded or moved. Can anyone else interpret this a bit better especially those with more knowledge on the subject?

It is a bit ambiguous, but I interpret that the mean that, 5 years from now, the club will have settled on a development plan and will be pursuing it. The fact that Mills has been appointed means that they are "looking at these stadium options" already.

There's an awful lot of land acquisition, negotiation and business-plan-writing to go through before they can decide whether to stay or go. To a great extent, assuming that the club prefers to stay at WHL, which option they choose will depend on specifics: whether the transport, land acquisition and planning problems can be overcome and whether they can find a better-value site elsewhere.

I find it difficult to believe that this interview coming out now is unconnected with the rumour this week about the club being in the process of acquiring more land near the stadium.

Thanks so much

you an see why this man has been appointed to so many bureaucratic boards. I don't know where the team would be without this very insightful input.
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Well lets hope we can get things moving one way or another, while we can only get 36,000 plus gates we will keep falling behind the so called bigger clubs.

Thanks for the insight.

Lay off him, he's the new boy. Only been at the club one month. Daniel Levy's probably still sending him down the local shop to pick up stripey paint, a packet of holes for the hole punch and a long weight.

How many times have we heard the phrases "Stadium expansion" and "5 years" ?

We need to appoint a full-time commitee to address the stadium issue & get on with things, instead of this constant procrastination !!!

Ignorant rubbish.

I know, let's just go out and get a builder and start work next week. :roll:

A committee (as anyone who's ever been on a committee would know) is the best way to slow things down.

It's too late at night to write 500 words on the colossal list of reasons why it is virtually impossible to get a stadium expansion off the ground in Tottenham. I've written it all before here, anyway, 5 or 6 times.

Suffice it to say: if they get an enlarged stadium completed in 10 years, they will have done really well.

It's equally likely that, after another 5 years of attempts to assemble the land, byzantine local politics and equally byzantine financial arrangements, they'll give up and move away. Which would be a pity.

TheSpurs Brand

Hi! Spurs Community Members and Spurs Fans worldwide

My name is Raj, and i am from Singapore, This is my inaugural post in Spurs Community. I am delighted and always felt like making a post. But never did. I was engrossed always in reading the very interesting and thought provoking post by my fellow spurs fans.

WHy now this post? Well i was intrigued by the appointment of Sir Keith Mills to look into expanding our present stadium and also make the Spurs brand into a global one.

I am especially interested in the branding of our club globally. We have reached a stage the Koreans , thanks to Lee Young Po and Egyptians thanks to Mido and Ghaly have shown tremendous interest in our club.

Egypt and South Korea compared to the China and India market are very small market to launch our global brand.

I would suggest that we should seriously look at India where English is one of the official spoken languages and where the British influence is very strong till today.
You would be surprised how a Hindi movie out of Bollywood did a shooting involving our fellow London- Russian managed club have created an awareness among Indians, where the population is estimated to be about 1 billion. It is suggested that 250 million do watch Premier league football, though cricket is the main passion.

There are many business icons in India where our club can tie up sponsorship deals and look into having some of their bright youngsters proficient in football to attend our Academy. India has their own league and they have stadium in Kolkata which can house more than 100,000.00 Food for thought for Sir Keith Mills. For those Spurs fans based in London please do forward this suggestion to Sir Keith, as the Cockerel has a special significance to Indians
COME ON YOU SPURS!!!
Cheers!

Raj

I normally agree with a lot of your posts David but...... lets be honest: it would take up to the time you suggest to get an enlarged / new stadium if Spurs were beginning from a standing start. However, that isnt the case: we've known about the need to enlarge for years now and the heirachy at Spurs have been looking into this for some time. In that case, we should already have some ideas/plans in place - for example: we already know that enlarging WHL will be extremely problematic due to transport issues, regeneration of area, etc., etc. We also know that we have considered Olympic Stadium and Wembley...... as this is the case, then to say getting it done "in 10 years, they will have done really well" is, I feel, a wrong attitude. I'm not saying we can get it down in a year, 2 yrs, 3yrs, 4yrs...but 10yrs is too long and not acceptable. Fact is: we need enlarged capacity ASAP to allow us to compete with the A*se, Man U, etc....currently we have something like the 15 - 16th highest capacity ground in England! Fact is: we have some of the highest ticket prices and yet we are always full to capacity. If we want to continue competing with the other teams (financially as well as on the pitch) and dont want new fans who cant get to see the team leave for other clubs (remember too: London probably has the most teams within square miles than any other city) then we need to allow as many people as possible, for a reasonable price, come to see us play.

I don't see how we disagree. The club management could have been more pro-active about this if they had got on with it 10 years ago, but we all know that the previous club management was, shall we say, somewhat unfocused and unambitious.

Now we have this club management and they've had a lot on their plates, getting the whole setup back into shape again over the past 3 years and turning us back into a competitive outfit.

In the meantime, the whole Olympic bid saga was rumbling on and, with other things to do, it wasn't a stupid idea to wait and see if the transport improvements, or even a new stadium, could be linked to the Olympic development. If it had been possible, it could have saved the clubs countless millions.

It's become pretty clear now, only in the past few months, that this isn't going to be an option, so I'm not surprised to see more activity on the land-acquisition-around-WHL front.

The only thing that actively annoys me is the kind of post that assumes that we can snap our fingers and a new stadium will magically appear - and then blames the management for not having already snapped its fingers. Your "standing start" is now, because there have been too many other issues and options up to now. So we have to measure from now. And it will take some years, no matter what the club does, to get an enlarged stadium.

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....if, 'rotating' the stadium is a plan. Stand by stand might be counter productive?

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That would obviously be the best way for the fans' convenience, but whether it is possible will depend on a number of more basic factors, such that I doubt that it will be the prime consideration. What follows is very hypothetical, but I reckon it's logical.

Thre are really two options for staying at WHL: 1) expanding the existing facility, with the pitch retained in the same location; 2) relocating or re-orienting the pitch, which would require the existing stadium to be entirely or partly replaced.

Which they pursue will depend on what land they can secure and which looks like the better balance between increased capacity, capital cost and disruption - and, of course, transport accessibility.

Another main factor will be height. How high up the existing stands can be extended - which will be dictated more by planning consent considerations than by technical ones - will limit how many more spectators can be accommodated. If they can't go up high enough, then they'll have to go out. And I can't see how they can do that without demolishing at least half of the existing structure and relocating the pitch.

I don't think your idea for transport improvements to be "monitored and judged over a period of time" is workable. I just do not believe that the will get planning consent until they have proven that they can deliver a complete, agreed package of transport improvements. Those improvements will surely be introduced gradually, or in stages, but I can't see how they will be permitted to stick a spade in the ground until the permanent solution to the transport issue has been agreed in its entirety.

30,000 on the waiting list for season ticket - is that including this years season tickets holders? If not, then we could easily house 60,000 regularly.

i just hope we stay at the lane. i dont like these new modern stadiums, man city's and Arsenal's they lack the character of the older stadiums. Mind you iv had enuff of running down to the seven sisters, desperate to get the tube so i dont miss my coach to plymouth !