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hughy

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Anyone been watching? Nadal currently struggling against a lanky German.

Robson has just started her first round match against Wozniacki. Tough draw.
 

hughy

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A fantastic couple of points from Rafa to win the second set. Looks like he wants to prevent another Lukas Rosol moment.
 

hughy

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Unbelievable stuff from Tommy Robredo. He's won his last two matches after coming from 2 sets down to win in 5, and he's playing Almagro today and has pulled it back to 2 sets all after being 2 sets down. It would be incredible if he could win 3 matches on the bounce after giving his opponents a 2 set lead.

Quality stuff.
 

Marty

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Oh snap, Tsonga walloped Federer there! Wasn't really watching as I'm at work atm but the stats make it look brutal.
 

michaelj70

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Well done Tsonga and Monfils for bringing a bit of the unexpected to Roland Garros this year. The top 4 in tennis almost as predictable as the Premiership
 

hughy

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Utter idiocy from a player that, off the top of my head, hasn't even reached a quarter-final of a Grand Slam yet. You don't get to the top of the ladder by trying to entertain people, you get there with hard-work and dedication. If you happen to have the personality of John McEnroe to go with it, then great. Maybe he should learn to be more like Nadal, Djokovic, Murray and Federer, and less of a twat to try and resurrect his once hopeful career.

Honestly I think he should re-watch the Nadal/Federer 2008 Wimbledon final or the Djokovic/Nadal 2012 Aussie final and then tell us they're boring players.
 

Marty

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Williams - Errani just now wasn't even funny. It's a fucking semi final for God's sake. (Mis)Matches like that just shouldn't happen at this level.
 

hughy

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Missed the Nadal/Djokovic match, but it sounds like another classic.

Ferrer/Tsonga up next, should be a good match. Home favourite vs. The terrier. Can't see either man surrendering this easily.
 

haxman

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Williams - Errani just now wasn't even funny. It's a fucking semi final for God's sake. (Mis)Matches like that just shouldn't happen at this level.
There's no point to women's tennis. It's an unfair contest when Williams takes to the court. If I said what I really think I'd get flamed on here.

In the days of the big serving men's game it wasn't enjoyable, and the women's game was, now its the other way around.
 

Arnoldtoo

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Anybody apart from Ferrer and his mother think that David's got a chance today?
 

InOffMeLeftShin

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Anybody apart from Ferrer and his mother think that David's got a chance today?


David is probably the most respected player on tour. His training and work ethic are legendary and most people around the tour would have given him an outside shot with the form he's been in. But there is a reason why he hasn't broken through to win a grandslam title and that is that he can't physically dominate and doesn't have any huge weapon. Absolutely amazing at what he does and a great guy but just not enough to beat Nadal on clay. Nadal crushed him in the end and I think he'll be very disappointed with the scoreline and his performance.

If he'd been playing in the late 90's early 2000's at the level he's playing at now he probably would have won multiple French Open's. He's a better player than Juan Carlos Ferrero ever was and he reached world number 1.
 

Arnoldtoo

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David is probably the most respected player on tour. His training and work ethic are legendary and most people around the tour would have given him an outside shot with the form he's been in. But there is a reason why he hasn't broken through to win a grandslam title and that is that he can't physically dominate and doesn't have any huge weapon. Absolutely amazing at what he does and a great guy but just not enough to beat Nadal on clay. Nadal crushed him in the end and I think he'll be very disappointed with the scoreline and his performance.

If he'd been playing in the late 90's early 2000's at the level he's playing at now he probably would have won multiple French Open's. He's a better player than Juan Carlos Ferrero ever was and he reached world number 1.


Don't get me wrong, I have a lot of time for Ferrer. He's maximised his talents through bloody hard work and is one of the fittest and most consistent players on the tour.

But like you say, he has no big shots. He's also not good at the net. And I think racquet technology has helped him, because you can generate such speed from pretty much anywhere that an attacking player almost has to hit the lines to beat a class baseliner, which Ferrer undoubtedly is.

Ferrero was no mean player and would have been better with today's equipment, which has changed som much in the last 15 years. And with players like Agassi, Kuerten, Moya, Bruguera etc around I don't think Ferrer would have been a shoo-in for multiple titles. He's certainly been unlucky to have Nadal around at the same time though.
 

InOffMeLeftShin

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Don't get me wrong, I have a lot of time for Ferrer. He's maximised his talents through bloody hard work and is one of the fittest and most consistent players on the tour.

But like you say, he has no big shots. He's also not good at the net. And I think racquet technology has helped him, because you can generate such speed from pretty much anywhere that an attacking player almost has to hit the lines to beat a class baseliner, which Ferrer undoubtedly is.

Ferrero was no mean player and would have been better with today's equipment, which has changed som much in the last 15 years. And with players like Agassi, Kuerten, Moya, Bruguera etc around I don't think Ferrer would have been a shoo-in for multiple titles. He's certainly been unlucky to have Nadal around at the same time though.


Ferrero was playing with (in the latter part of his career) the previous version of the same racquet as Ferrer, both of which I designed, but credit goes to the man himself because he has really pushed his game on to another level in the last year or so. Out of the list of players you've mentioned before I would fancy Ferrer against all of them (on clay at least in Agassi's case). Kuerten won the French 3 times on pure talent but I think if you put Kuerten of his prime v Ferrer now, Ferrer would shade it. Of course they were all excellent players but David wouldn't look out of place playing any of them, where as he does playing Nadal.
 

Arnoldtoo

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Ferrero was playing with (in the latter part of his career) the previous version of the same racquet as Ferrer, both of which I designed, but credit goes to the man himself because he has really pushed his game on to another level in the last year or so. Out of the list of players you've mentioned before I would fancy Ferrer against all of them (on clay at least in Agassi's case). Kuerten won the French 3 times on pure talent but I think if you put Kuerten of his prime v Ferrer now, Ferrer would shade it. Of course they were all excellent players but David wouldn't look out of place playing any of them, where as he does playing Nadal.


You know as well as me that comparing players from different periods is pretty much impossible, so we'll have to agree to differ (but I'd still back Guga). And he smiled more.

I will concede that Ferrer deserves a big title and I'd love to see him get one, so long as it's not at Murray's expense. But I don't think he's going to get one.
 
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