Lee Young Pyo

[Lanh]

Something like...

"Name the 5 players which you rate highest in terms of ability/application from our squad?"

...or...

"Name the 5 players which you believe that are the most valuable to our squad?"

Something along those lines...I think the poll will result in a fair number of votes for LYP, but I don't believe that he would end up being top 5 in the results when all said and done, I don't even think he would figure in the top 3 defenders list after reading the posts in Spurs Chat over the past couple of years.

 

[Lanh]

Then award 5pts for the one listed first, down to 1pt for the person listed in 5th. Lot of work but it'll prove Leapy is under-valued by the majority.

 

[joey55]

Something like...

"Name the 5 players which you rate highest in terms of ability/application from our squad?"

...or...

"Name the 5 players which you believe that are the most valuable to our squad?"

Something along those lines...I think the poll will result in a fair number of votes for LYP, but I don't believe that he would end up being top 5 in the results when all said and done, I don't even think he would figure in the top 3 defenders list after reading the posts in Spurs Chat over the past couple of years.

Not really poll questions though are they? It has to be something that there can be a "yes" or "no" to each player so we can see what % of the site rate that particular player. And I also think it should be current ability otherwise it will be won by someone like Tarrabt or Kaboul. Maybe,
"Which players do you think are currently good enough to represent Spurs?" and then list each player with a "yes" or "no" option.

 

[joey55]

Then award 5pts for the one listed first, down to 1pt for the person listed in 5th. Lot of work but it'll prove Leapy is under-valued by the majority.

Sorry didn't see this before replying to your last post. I think it's easier to just have a poll with a "yes" or "no" option as then there is no need for any work.

 

[claw_diddy]

Lee is a good player but doesn't make the 'great' category. He struggles to beat a man when attacking and has to cut in to cross a ball due to being right footed, he often losses possession at that point, which could also be attributed to him quite lightweight.

I'm sure Ramos will want to mold him and keep him if can, cos he's one of the few players in our squad with sound experience.

 

[King]

I've not seen a thread about him recently, and I think he deserves one. In my opinion he's been without doubt one of our best players this season, if not our best, and has been since he's played for us. He rarely puts a foot wrong in every game he plays, which I would say makes him our most consistent player by a long way (after Ledley when he's fit). Possibly the most under-rated player at the club.

:bow:

:hump:

 

[tippspur59]

Lee is one of the worst crossers of the ball I ever saw at this club,can anyone tell me when we scored from one his cross's.

 

[Lanh]

Go for whichever you think is best Joey

 

[wirE]

imo he is kinda up and down. have shown some good display, but he still very average. comes forward alot, but lack the crosses he used to do in the good old days with psv. Havent seen that since cl 2004

 

[Bus-Conductor]

Joey, here's an example, this thread was posted a couple of days ago:

http://www.spurscommunity.co.uk/forums/showthread.php?t=22002

The first two suggestions to be sold include Lee.

I would also like to draw your attention to my reply on page 5.

 

[SpurSince57]

I think that on the whole opinions have changed very much in Lee's favour, but there's no doubt that there are still plenty of tossers about, like that wanker who said he was poor because he didn't make sliding tackles. I mean, WTF?

My memories of Ron Henry are pretty dim and distant, but after Knowles and Hughton I'd confidently say Lee is the best LB we've had in my clear recollection. There are, God help us, people who seem to believe the ideal LB is a brainless thug like Taricco.

He seldom gets wrong-sided, is very adept at holding up opposing wingers until the cavalry arrives, is one of our most effective tacklers and, I'm pretty sure, our most accurate passer. He rarely if ever gives away free-kicks in dangerous positions, and whilst he will put in the odd professional foul it's invariably in a safe area. If team-mates can't defend the ensuing free-kick (as happened last Sunday) that's hardly his fault. As for the misconception that he's weak, maybe people should ask Steven Reid about that, after the body-check Leapy put in on him when we played Blackeye two years ago that sent him into the front row of the East Stand. And that was smart thinking; some morons would have gone for a lunge that would have risked not only a red but serious injury to Reid and themselves.

For me, the 'problem' is that he just does his job efficiently and without fuss, so unless your attention is on him the whole of the time you tend not to notice just how good he is. As Greavesie said, being a full-back is the most thankless job; do your job well, no-one notices, fuck up and everyone does.

Leapy very rarely fucks up.

 

[joey55]

Joey, here's an example, this thread was posted a couple of days ago:

http://www.spurscommunity.co.uk/forums/showthread.php?t=22002

The first two suggestions to be sold include Lee.

I would also like to draw your attention to my reply on page 5.

This is a good example of a point I've really been trying to get across and is relevant to so many topics disscussed at this place. We need to be more comparative, be it with other teams, other players, or any manner of things and so often we aren't. You are a Lee fan and therefore it really sticks in your mind when you see him criticised. You are right he does get criticised, but so do all our players, so his criticism needs to be judged relative to others. That thread actually shows that comparitively Lee is one of the least criticised players. Here is a count of all the times a player was mentioned as one who should leave (technically it was meant to be a who will Ramos get rid of thread, but actually people just listed players they didn't want). When you consider that there isn't really any point including KAboul or Taarabt, or Bale, it's only really Keane, Berbs and Dawson that had less votes than Lee. As many people thought Lennon should go as Lee.

Ghaly 18 votes
Zokora 17
Defoe 13
Jenas 12
Routledge 11
Taino 10
Robbo 9
Steed 8
Chimbonda 8
Hudd 7
Rocha 6
Gardner 6
BAE 5
Stalteri 5
Bent 4
Lennon 4
Lee 4
Berbs 3
Daws 3

 

[Flatters]

Joey, I agree that most Tottenham fans think more positively about him than they do negatively. I just don't think he's as appreciated as much as he should be in comparison to other players.

 

[Bus-Conductor]

This is the perfect example of a point I've really been trying to get across and is relevant to so many topics disscussed at this place. We need to be comparative, be it with other teams, other players, or any manner of things and so often we aren't. You are a Lee fan and therefore it really sticks in your mind when you see him criticised. You are right he does get criticised, but so do all our players. That thread actually shows that comparitively Lee is one of the least criticised players. Here is a count of all the times a player was mentioned as one who should leave (technically it was meant to be a who will Ramos get rid of thread, but actually people just listed players they didn't want).

Ghaly 18 votes
Zokora 17
Defoe 13
Jenas 12
Routledge 11
Taino 10
Robbo 9
Steed 8
Chimbonda 8
Hudd 7
Rocha 6
Gardner 6
BAE 5
Stalteri 5
Bent 4
Lennon 4
Lee 4
Berbs 3
Daws 3

You have a point. It shows the level of ignorant **** we have in here in general that some people would get rid of Jenas, Zokora & malbranque ahead of BAE & Dawson. And that 4 people would get rid of Lee at all.

It is why I didn't dwell in that particular thread as it had "****" written all over it.

 

[ChRiStOpHe]

I love Wipey, and always have! Well, since he's been at Spurs at least. Anyone who honestly cannot see what makes his so good should really give it up right now. Not only is he a very talented lad, but he's also a hell of a consistent player too! That last line was probably grammatically awful, but I'm tired so it doesn't count

If you want a full back to slate to high heaven, why not pick on Pascal Chimbonda? The funny thing is that people like Flatters rate Chimbo, which is odd considering we both agree on what makes a good full back :lol:

 

[SpurSince57]

The contrast between Chimbonda and Lee is interesting. Chimbo is a much more eye-catching player, and up until about two-thirds of the way through last season I'd have said he was a definite improvement on Salty, particularly going forward. Since then, he's looked alarmingly fallible, not just losing his man at set pieces, but getting beaten too often in open play; his failure to deal with Benayoun was the direct cause of Liverpool's equaliser.

No full-back is going to stop everything, but Lee does a better job than most.

 

[Lanh]

I'm not even going to start on why Lee is so much better than Chimbonda. I did all that last season when the majority of people thought he was the best right-back since sliced bread. This season he has gotten even worse than he was last season.

That really should no longer be a debate because quite frankly to do so would be to hugely insult Leapy!

 

[thfc_2004]

So you want to play a left back at right back (probably only because he's predominantly right footed), and you want to play a right back at centre back? Kaboul in midfield? Maybe Robbo on the wing?

I never said I wanted to play Chimbonda at centre back, just that he might get a chance there.

My point re Lee is that the top clubs like Man U, Arsenal and Chelsea would never play a consistent first choice left or right back there with the wrong foot because of the way it restricts their ability to attack down the flanks.

We now have a quality left back in Bale but in true typical Spurs style the failure to secure a left footed midfielder (again) means that he's pushed there out of his best position (IMHO) and Lee still gets a game.

 

[loyalyid]

He does have songs.

He'll shoot
He'll score
He'll eat your labrador
YP Leeeeee
YP Leeeeee

Now that really made my day, laughed, I almost shat myself Great song boys..... :rofl:

 

[yiddotilidie]

I never said I wanted to play Chimbonda at centre back, just that he might get a chance there.

My point re Lee is that the top clubs like Man U, Arsenal and Chelsea would never play a consistent first choice left or right back there with the wrong foot because of the way it restricts their ability to attack down the flanks.

We now have a quality left back in Bale but in true typical Spurs style the failure to secure a left footed midfielder (again) means that he's pushed there out of his best position (IMHO) and Lee still gets a game.

What, like when played Flamini at right back for a massive part of their season?
Or like Ferguson played Irwin at Left back for 764 years.

Get a grip mate.