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JimmyG2

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Is it just me or is there a less frenzied and almost contented feeling around the place at the end of this season. The poem by BBLG and the entertaining summary by rez9000, riffing with the editor, seem to set the tone for a more relaxed attitude to the events of the 2008/2009 season.

Our performance on Sunday was poor but nobody seems to be really bothered. Rather like the players in fact. There were very few posters on the match thread and there was nothing like the usual level of passion. Important players were missing it is true and perhaps the loss of Palacios in circumstances that put mere football into perspective have had an influence.

Perhaps underlying our attitudes is a feeling of relief that we did well enough not just to survive but to salvage some pride and to realise that maybe a season without Europe might play to our advantage. Perhaps the fate of Newcastle, where but for the Grace of God go Spurs, has given us a chastening taste of the horrors that we might well be enduring now.

Its seems to have been a long and in some ways harrowing season and it took until February for me to finally to feel safe. I know others were more relaxed, BBLG for one but as he says himself he has a reputation for being 'blindly optimistic'.

Is there a feeling that by and large we are happy with the squad and the manager, for the time being anyway. There has been a growing feeling that we don't want another year of upheaval and change, that we have a more than decent squad under a manager who not only steered us out of trouble but got the team performing more to their potential.

Of course its fun to join in the transfer rumour circus and to appraise the qualities of the dozens of players from all over the world who are reportedly on their way to the Lane. But we must know by now that the constant transfer activity has actually destabilised the club in the last decade.

Of course the squad could be improved but many of the names associated with us are barely upgrades on what we already have or are unlikely to come to us until we threaten the Champions' League positions.

Our first priority is to hold onto the gems in the squad, Modric and Lennon first of all and to build on the good feelings that our run in has produced, unlike last year when the poor performances after the Carling Cup should have alerted us to the disasters to come. We are facing the summer on a positive note and that has been reflected in the more cheerful outlook of posters on SC.

Most people are aware that we have had a narrow escape and this seems to have calmed us down. Not only do we not have a divine right to play in the Champions' League we don't even have the right to play in the Premiership. Newcastle have discovered like Leeds and Nottingham Forest that even the top names and the once top clubs can fall on hard times. I am grateful that we have not joined them.

Obviously some will draw the conclusion that this season proves the exact opposite: that even with a disastrous start, I think you all know the figures, the mighty Spurs will triumph over adversity and everything will come right in the end.

When it came to it we were too good to go down but for me it was a close run thing. The fight back probably started with the draw at Arsenal but a late equaliser at Sunderland and a late winner at Hull were the turning points and it could have all easily gone the other way. After an excellent performance in the Carling Cup we never looked back, although a 'blip' against Blackburn probably cost us the European place.

So let the rumour mill commence, I will do my best to ignore it and have vowed not to post on speculative transfer rumours in the hope that by ignoring them they will go away. I think this is known as the ostrich approach and I recommend it to all my fellow fans.
 

mil1lion

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May 7, 2004
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I for one feel a little exhausted after this season. It feels like the longest season in history. I think Sunday was more down to being glad its finally over so we can look forward to a new season, more than anything else. But while i hope we only make a few signings and keep our first team together, i always enjoy this time of year. I swear its more exciting to see a player sign than it is actually seeing them play for Spurs. Silly season is upon us, and i for one am looking forward to it. Bring on the Rivaldo and Riquelme talk.
 

riversmonkey

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Relief for me, were it not for Redknapp sorting out the bad vibes in the dressing room, and alongside Levy acting shrewdly in the transfer window we could have done a Newcastle, as early season we really were abysmal.

Roll on 2009/10
 

bigspurs

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No.1 Rule of Rumour Mill: If its too good to be true, it probably is!
No.2 Rule of Rumour Mill: If its too bad to be false, it probably is!
No.3 Rule of Rumour Mill: Don't read red-top sh*t-rags.
No.4 Rule of Rumour Mill: Never get your hopes up too much.
No.5 Rule of Rumour Mill: Always remember, Andy Gray is such an insufferable twat, it truly beggars belief.
 

Cairnzeee

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Good stuff Jimmy. I often see your stuff on Topspurs and it's always a good read.

I think just echo the sentiments of a lot of Spurs fans, I'm just relieved the season is over, i'm shattered from it all.

I know we're all sick of hearing the "2 points from 8 games" stuff, but seriously back in October I was literally getting about 2 hours sleep a night just worrying about Spurs. Bad times.

I'd be quite happy if we didn't sign anyone in the summer, no more transition, no more bedding players in . . . and lets have a real go in the league next season.
 

Roberts84

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I was nervous all season up until we beat Chelsea. I remember talking to a Chelsea fan at work 2 weeks before the match with them giving me grief about relegation. After teasing him for being to scared to come to WHL I said we would secure a win against them that will ensure survival. The piss he took! It gives me great pleasure in letting him know we’re now their bogy team.

As for the silly season, it’s great, 99% of it bullshit but still great. Can’t wait to hear that we’re signing Kaka and Messi!!!
 

yozza

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Silly season always seems to be more concentrated with us, can't what to see who we get linkedto this summer............Ronaldo, Ribery, Ferdinand!!!!!!!!! lol
 

spurs_viola

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Silly season always seems to be more concentrated with us, can't what to see who we get linkedto this summer............Ronaldo, Ribery, Ferdinand!!!!!!!!! lol

But seriously, in reality it will of course be people like Downing, Jones, Johnson...Exciting, I think, is not what we are going to look forward to this summer.
 

ravo

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Jun 4, 2004
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Jimmy - great article mate. I think you have hit the nail on the head with all points you raise. An off-season with little change (bring in a few quality players in the poisitons we have all talked about - ship out the deadwood and those who do not have the passion for the might Lillywhites).

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And fans posting ins and outs lists! Should be fun!

Ins: Barry (ambitious!), Johnson, New forward (not sure who I'd want as I don't know as much about european footy as I used to)

Outs: Giovanni (never been given a chance but I'm pretty sure he's off), Bentley, Pav, Keane, Gilberto, Rocha

Players to give more chances to: Rose, Bostock, Taraabt (get on the phone to him and pursuade him to stay, arry - even though he's been treated diabolically by the club!)
 

Boaman

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I think a few players each season to refresh and improve the first team is essential, I think the season we started badly under Jol when we signed Bent, Kaboul and Zokora was because we spent all that money and didn't improve are first 11.

We should never look to not improve but we should be mindful when doing so, it's about good management and I genuinely think we have that - Redknapp knows how to build a team, a skill I don't think Ramos had and Jol was possibly too inexperienced.

Personally I think we need 5 players, cover centre back, centre mid, left wing, left back & striker but I would settle for 3 of those.
 

Cairnzeee

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Personally I think we need 5 players, cover centre back, centre mid, left wing, left back & striker but I would settle for 3 of those.

I understand what you're saying mate, but I just worry that more disruption we have, the more negative effect it has on the team.

I just want a quiet summer, let the media get on with it and next season we just get on with playing football (similar to Everton and Villa this year). If we're 5th or 6th with a chance of 4th in January, then by all means look to bring someone in to freshen it up to push us over the line.

Do you not think with the squad we have, we could push on next season? Especially since we're not in Europe next year.
 

JoeT

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I don't think the squad we have is good enough and I agree with Boaman's post.
 

Boaman

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I understand what you're saying mate, but I just worry that more disruption we have, the more negative effect it has on the team.

I just want a quiet summer, let the media get on with it and next season we just get on with playing football (similar to Everton and Villa this year). If we're 5th or 6th with a chance of 4th in January, then by all means look to bring someone in to freshen it up to push us over the line.

Do you not think with the squad we have, we could push on next season? Especially since we're not in Europe next year.

Yes I really think we can push on from this season, especially as our main rivals (Everton & AV) will be playing in Europe and Ars*nal have put too much effort into the CL in recent season as it's easier to win than the PL.

The 5 players was probably not as clear as I wanted to be, I think 5 quality players and I think we can really challenge top 4 but 3 would give us a platform to kick on.

A good season for me next season would be finish top 6, but with a challenge to 4th and of course an FA cup run.

We should be aiming for 65-68 points next season and I think that would be a tremendous effort. Our highest is 65
 

mil1lion

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We have the players to finish in the top 7 as it is. But its going to depend largely on what players want to stay. This season was always going to be tough because we lost 3 key players in Keane, Berba and Steed. But i cant see Harry selling any of our first team players in the summer. But its the likes of Giovani, Taarabt, Bentley and O'Hara who will need to either fight for a place, or leave. I hope we get things sorted nice and early though this time, and head into pre-season with most of, if not all things in place.
 

ultimateloner

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We need to buy quality players to compliment Modric/Lennon before they get head-hunted by bigger clubs. It's a matter of get into CL or die trying.

Berba was our key but left because we didn't live up to his expectations. We can't risk doing the same thing again. Time is not on our side (unless we lower our ambitions).
 

Spurs_Bear

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Yes I really think we can push on from this season, especially as our main rivals (Everton & AV) will be playing in Europe and Ars*nal have put too much effort into the CL in recent season as it's easier to win than the PL.

The 5 players was probably not as clear as I wanted to be, I think 5 quality players and I think we can really challenge top 4 but 3 would give us a platform to kick on.

A good season for me next season would be finish top 6, but with a challenge to 4th and of course an FA cup run.

We should be aiming for 65-68 points next season and I think that would be a tremendous effort. Our highest is 65

Very realistic aims I think, with 3 players in the right positions we should be aiming for 5th outright, and then who knows maybe even 4th if one of so called "big 4" were to slip up.

I'd like for us to strengthen Centre Mid, another winger in case Lennon is injured or just to compete with him, people say Gio but he is never a winger, I'd like to keep him as a striking option or as a support striker. I think it is clear that Bentley will leave, the only thing that will hold him is if nobody wants to offer enough! And then the other deadwood, Gilberto, Rocha etc.

Ideally I'd like proven premiership players, but as others have already rightly mentioned that's when the values go through the roof.

Very relieved after this season and already looking forward to next!
 

davidmatzdorf

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There's a tension, or perhaps a clutch of contradictions, between the kind of players that the press is "linking" us with, the general inclination of fans to avoid too much upheaval this Summer and the desire of other fans to "upgrade" certain positions.

Basically, either Redknapp is going to buy players who already play in the Premiership or he's not. If he does, then the players we can realistically sign, such as the mantra of Downing-Jones-Johnson, aren't going to "upgrade" anything, unless Harry is seeing something in them that we are all missing. They're all good players, but not one of them is going to help Redknapp turn the squad into one to challenge near the top of the table, which is his avowed intention with this Summer's 2/3/4 (depending on when you ask him) signings.

On the other hand, there are the players with Premiership experience who really would improve us, the obvious example being Gareth Barry. But he's not going to leave Europa Cup competitors Aston Villa to join mid-table Spurs. The same applies to other top players. We have nothing, not even high wages, to attract players who are presently playing for clubs who are competing in Europe. There are very few such players elsewhere in England - and we already snaffled up one of these few in the form of Wilson Palacios.

Then there are the serious players from abroad. There is always a chance of signing a really good player from another league, simply because top players presently want to play in England - an obvious example from last Summer is Modric. But, like Modric, these players are untested in our style of football and Harry has suggested more than once that he wants players who can slot right in and contribute, without the Pavlyuchenko-style acclimatisation period.

None of it adds up. Some of it has to be bullshit and spin. We can't sign proven performers and players who will take us up a level, because players who meet those two criteria will be looking elsewhere.

Personally, I'm a member of the "leave it alone and sign virtually no one" tendency, but it doesn't look as it we're going to get our way.
 
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