Let's All Laugh At... Let's all laugh at Chelsea thread

[nailsy]

You can be a club legend lets say at Fulham or Saints ETC middle tier clubs and go on to fail or succeed it all depends on your ability.
The legends like Zidane or Pep have taken over what was at the time probably the two best and successful clubs in the world who had loads of money to splash on the top talent.
For myself until one of these so called mega star managers do something like Clough did at forest then to me they are taking over at clubs where success is almost nailed on.
The real top managers to me are the ones that succeed at lesser clubs with little if any transfer funds the likes of Warnock and fat sam.
It would be hilarious to see Zidane or Pep at Cardiff or Brighton ; no money no superstar players and fighting relegation they would not have the guts to go near such a quest.
Clough
Nicolson
Revie
Mercer
Shankly
Paisley
Wenger
Ferguson
These are managers that really built something out of very little with lasting success.
Pep/Zidane/Mourino/Allegri/Ancelloti/Van haal/these are men that jump from one uber rich club to another uber rich club where the millions of pounds available to spend give an almost guaranteed chance of trophies.

That's fair enough, but in this particular context we're talking about Lampard taking over at Chelsea so the comparisons to Pep and Zidane are pretty reasonable.

 

[buckley]

My point is that tho Lampard is a Chelsea legend and he survives next season the following year Roman will give him a blank cheque and it will cloud his real ability to manage .
His performance at derby is in the same ball park as McLaren/Rowett/and several previous managers and its nothing to write home about if it was not for his Chelsea connection and being able to Get three loanees Mount / Abrahams /Tomouri. he would have been nowhere near the play offs.
This just enforces my point that ex players that were superstars like Zidane and Pep etc are managing at clubs that will have success no matter manages them almost it just bloats their CV as managers that are winners when in fact they are just managing clubs with almost unlimited funds and all get success because unlike the likes of spurs and dare I say Arsenal there are books to balance.
FFP and sponsorship cheating plus overpaying in transfer fees and wages is for the likes of PSG/Juventus/Man City/Real /Chelsea and Barca .

 

[Hakkz]

My point is that tho Lampard is a Chelsea legend and he survives next season the following year Roman will give him a blank cheque and it will cloud his real ability to manage .
His performance at derby is in the same ball park as McLaren/Rowett/and several previous managers and its nothing to write home about if it was not for his Chelsea connection and being able to Get three loanees Mount / Abrahams /Tomouri. he would have been nowhere near the play offs.
This just enforces my point that ex players that were superstars like Zidane and Pep etc are managing at clubs that will have success no matter manages them almost it just bloats their CV as managers that are winners when in fact they are just managing clubs with almost unlimited funds and all get success because unlike the likes of spurs and dare I say Arsenal there are books to balance.
FFP and sponsorship cheating plus overpaying in transfer fees and wages is for the likes of PSG/Juventus/Man City/Real /Chelsea and Barca .

As a manager he has achieved nothing to deserve a chance at a club like Chelsea (meaning size, league positions and titles). It's all the club connection.

 

[aliyid]

Mic drop from Sarri

 

[DJS]

Personally I would be quite excited if I was a chelski fan to see their youngsters maybe given the opportunity.

Although a lot of the chelski fans are a different breed so they probably won’t be lol.

Kinda odd they let Jay Dasilva go to considering their transfer van, although they do have Alonso (although a few of their fans seem to think he’s a bit average) and Emerson plus Kenedy (sp) is still theirs I think and was at Newcastle last season on loan?

Although I’d still rather see one of their youngsters in Da Silva given a try. Same with when I’ve wanted KWP to be given more chances last season when Aurier and Trilpier both struggling with injuries.

 

[Dillspur]

I can see this ending badly or excellently depending on your allegiances!

If frank can't get a tune out of the youth and players already there, there's no way Roman (or whoever) is going to let him spunk what they have saved up from sales and the transfer ban next season.

 

[Hakkz]

I can see this ending badly or excellently depending on your allegiances!

If frank can't get a tune out of the youth and players already there, there's no way Roman (or whoever) is going to let him spunk what they have saved up from sales and the transfer ban next season.

Lampard has more chance getting the youth playing than the old dudes.

 

[aliyid]

Lampard has more chance getting the youth playing than the old dudes.

Thing is they have a very strong youth team to pick from (prob as they have around 70 out on loan) and they also wrapped up a very good player in Pulisic before the transfer ban.

 

[Hakkz]

Thing is they have a very strong youth team to pick from (prob as they have around 70 out on loan) and they also wrapped up a very good player in Pulisic before the transfer ban.

I agree, they have the foundation for a good team for years to come. Lampard is still a huge question mark however.

 

[spursfan77]

Lampard has more chance getting the youth playing than the old dudes.

And what happens when he starts playing the kids over seasoned pros? They’ll be a mutiny and unhappy dressing room. Unless he’s going to sell a load of them this summer I just can’t see it.

 

[Hakkz]

And what happens when he starts playing the kids over seasoned pros? They’ll be a mutiny and unhappy dressing room. Unless he’s going to sell a load of them this summer I just can’t see it.

They probably should have a clearout in a year or two anyway.

 

[spursfan77]

They probably should have a clearout in a year or two anyway.

Yeah. I’m just thinking that all the pundits are saying he’ll play the kids but in reality he won’t be able to integrate too many.

 

[Marty]

And what happens when he starts playing the kids over seasoned pros? They’ll be a mutiny and unhappy dressing room. Unless he’s going to sell a load of them this summer I just can’t see it.

Are there that many troublemakers left? The three "rats" in Mourinho's last spell were Costa, Hazard and Fabregas, all gone. I can imagine Azpilicueta and Luiz kicking up a fuss and the Kepa thing of course, but the rest of the squad seem a fairly non-confrontational bunch.

 

[DJS]

Are there that many troublemakers left? The three "rats" in Mourinho's last spell were Costa, Hazard and Fabregas, all gone. I can imagine Azpilicueta and Luiz kicking up a fuss and the Kepa thing of course, but the rest of the squad seem a fairly non-confrontational bunch.

The Luiz situation always seems a bit dodgy to me, he basically seems to be Abramovich’s favourite players and if managers drop him seems to cause issues.

 

[wirE]

 

[VegasII]

The Luiz situation always seems a bit dodgy to me, he basically seems to be Abramovich’s favourite players and if managers drop him seems to cause issues.

Sounds like Luiz is a fine trombone player.

 

[spursfan77]

Sounds like Lampard is trying to go about things the right way. Taking ages to appoint him though aren’t they.

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/footbal...l-merge-chelsea-academy-first-team-encourage/

 

[Krule]

Done deal today according to The Mail

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/f...ncentive-4m-year-contract-Chelsea-sealed.html

 

[yankspurs]

Done deal today according to The Mail

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/f...ncentive-4m-year-contract-Chelsea-sealed.html

I mean, it’s been a done deal since about March. But they had to deal with Sarri. They couldnt sack him because it sets a terrible precedent thanks to the garbage people on the playing squad. But they also couldnt keep him because their forced to keep those garbage people on the playing squad due to the transfer ban. They got really lucky Juve came in for him. Saved them a headache.

Lampard replacing Sarri has always been the choice and it was their ideal scenario. An ex chelsea man could be the only one to keep those players in line for the year and he will take them through the next few years unless it turns to complete shit and their forced to sack him to stay within reach of the top 8.

 

[Spurger King]

I mean, it’s been a done deal since about March. But they had to deal with Sarri. They couldnt sack him because it sets a terrible precedent thanks to the garbage people on the playing squad. But they also couldnt keep him because their forced to keep those garbage people on the playing squad due to the transfer ban. They got really lucky Juve came in for him. Saved them a headache.

Lampard replacing Sarri has always been the choice and it was their ideal scenario. An ex chelsea man could be the only one to keep those players in line for the year and he will take them through the next few years unless it turns to complete shit and their forced to sack him to stay within reach of the top 8.

Doubt he’ll be a success. The whole thing about a club like them is that it’s made up of mercenaries. None of their players could give a flying fuck about the club. All they care about is their salary. I don’t necessarily have an issue with that, but Lampard will be way out of his depth. He has a squad that would happily go to China or the US if they paid them enough.