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Mr Pink

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When Kompany is missing they're a bit of a mess at the back.

Aguero is the best player in the League but I have to admit I love watching Silva play - probably my favourite player in the league outside of Spurs.

But when they have Kompany playing, and Aguero and Silva in the team - there's no stopping them IMO.

The problem we may face is if they come sniffing in our direction given the age of some of their players. Yaya is definitely on the way down and they have a real lack of dynamic CM's. Delph, I doubt, will ever be viewed more as a good squad option.

I bet they'll be sniffing round Alli by the time next summer rolls around.
 

Ionman34

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I agree with others that discussion threads are fine, not sure 'Lets laugh at....' are continuously needed though.

Personally I think that whilst City have a couple of titles to their name, are consistently competing at the top and I'm sure their fans are pretty satisfied, as an outsider looking at them I don't think they are in as great shape as I'd expect them to be with their bottomless pit of money. I think their squad should be the best of anyone's on a world level, but it lacks quality depth in certain areas and they have an ageing squad that relies on Aguero, Silva, and Kompany and Yaya who are now creaking with age. They should really be dominating the PL currently and not giving anyone else a look in.

It seems to me that this is the problem with clubs that have hit the lottery. When you can afford any player in the World, you tend to invest in established World Class players. These players are generally of an age where you will only get around 3-4 seasons before they pass their peak. They have very little sell on value and won't get the wages they're receiving at these clubs. Thus you end up with an ageing first team that doesn't perform at the level required. So you go out and buy more established World Class players in order to maintain the same level as it is expected.

Whilst it is great to have these players in your team, it really is a money pit. If they really are offering Messi 40 mill a year, as well as the extortionate sum they would have to pay Barca for his services, how on Earth will they recoup that in conjunction with the fees and wages for any other top class players they would need to bring in to replace their ageing players.

I worked for Atlas Construction in Qatar, back in the late 90's, and met Sheikh Qasimi on a few occasions. He typified their mindset. If a business isn't making money, bin it. If you get bored with your toys, bin them.

I fear City are in for a rude awakening in the not too distant future, particularly if they are as staid as we have seen to date. Messi might keep their interest for a little while longer, but I reckon they are living on borrowed time.
 

tommyt

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Jul 22, 2005
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I wouldn't even mind a thread to talk about another club but why do we need the "lets all laugh" before it, does the OP not realise that City have had our number for a few years now, have finished abbive and will continue to be a more successful team than us for the foreseeable...really don't know what we ought to be laughing at?

I agree sort of. But is it not a sign of self-confidence in our team that we allow ourselves to laugh at blips in other teams fortune, while, at the same time, not taking ourselves too serious?

Let's all Laugh at Real Madrid...for assembling one of the most expensive squads in the history of football ever and still getting humped at home by their fiercest rivals.
 

Misfit

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They are a fucking embarrassment in Europe. All that needs to be said.

Such paltry returns for their investment in any other industry would have the sodding fraud squad sniffing around.
 

Sweech

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I agree with others that discussion threads are fine, not sure 'Lets laugh at....' are continuously needed though.

Personally I think that whilst City have a couple of titles to their name, are consistently competing at the top and I'm sure their fans are pretty satisfied, as an outsider looking at them I don't think they are in as great shape as I'd expect them to be with their bottomless pit of money. I think their squad should be the best of anyone's on a world level, but it lacks quality depth in certain areas and they have an ageing squad that relies on Aguero, Silva, and Kompany and Yaya who are now creaking with age. They should really be dominating the PL currently and not giving anyone else a look in.
They overpay for absolutely everyone they buy.

De Bruyne is class and Sterling is pretty good, but 50+ and 40+ million each?

Otamendi for 30+ million?

Mangala for 35+ million?

Their transfer history is just ridiculous. You'd expect absolutely top level proven world lass players for those kinds of fees. Alexis Sanchez costed under 30 million FFS.
 

Danfunkel

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City Football Group (CFG) today announced a partnership with a consortium of high profile Chinese institutional investors led by China’s leading media, entertainment, sports and internet dedicated investment and operating company CMC (China Media Capital) Holdings.

The deal will create an unprecedented platform for the growth of CFG clubs and companies in China and internationally, borne out of CFG’s ability to provide a wealth of industry expertise and resources to the rapidly developing Chinese football industry.

The agreement will see the consortium of CMC Holdings and CITIC Capital invest US$400 million to take a shareholding in City Football Group of just over 13%. The deal values the group at US$3 billion.........

http://www.mcfc.co.uk/News/Club-news/2015/December/CFG-statement-1-December-2015/1448953247

Nice middle finger to FFP and FIFA.
 

Lilbaz

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City Football Group (CFG) today announced a partnership with a consortium of high profile Chinese institutional investors led by China’s leading media, entertainment, sports and internet dedicated investment and operating company CMC (China Media Capital) Holdings.

The deal will create an unprecedented platform for the growth of CFG clubs and companies in China and internationally, borne out of CFG’s ability to provide a wealth of industry expertise and resources to the rapidly developing Chinese football industry.

The agreement will see the consortium of CMC Holdings and CITIC Capital invest US$400 million to take a shareholding in City Football Group of just over 13%. The deal values the group at US$3 billion.........

http://www.mcfc.co.uk/News/Club-news/2015/December/CFG-statement-1-December-2015/1448953247

Nice middle finger to FFP and FIFA.

Low oil price taking effect?
 

TaoistMonkey

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Gotta be....? Had to happen some day, that oil bubble was always going to burst...

Rob Harris ‏@RobHarris 4m4 minutes ago
Sheikh Mansour paid about $400m for Man City (full ownership by 2009). Today he's sold 13% of City Football Group for $400m

Made this money back after all. Mental.

Did he really pay $400 million for City?

What a turd of a club they were before they got their money.
 

King of Otters

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Low oil price taking effect?

More like opening up new markets and avenues for investment.

City are in good hands, and are here to stay unfortunately. I say 'unfortunately' because I'm a bitter man and want to see them go bust, but there is something quite poetic about a small club with a loyal following becoming more powerful than Man Utd, Arsenal, Liverpool etc. The Sky 4 had things their way for too long, and I'm glad someone had the backing to break that party up for good.
 

Misfit

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More like opening up new markets and avenues for investment.

City are in good hands, and are here to stay unfortunately. I say 'unfortunately' because I'm a bitter man and want to see them go bust, but there is something quite poetic about a small club with a loyal following becoming more powerful than Man Utd, Arsenal, Liverpool etc. The Sky 4 had things their way for too long, and I'm glad someone had the backing to break that party up for good.
I agree with the sentiment but the oil clubs doing it only makes the sitch worse. Especially for clubs like us on the bubble. Chelsea and now citeh have almost perma-fucked us. Without either of them we could have burst that Sky 3/4 bubble and done it off our own backs.

Instead, we've been consigned to the relative purgatory of EL football and having our best players cherry-picked for the last decade and not being able to build a team which contained the likes of Berbatov, Bale, Modric etc as a top 3/4 club with CL football and the mahoosive revenue spike that generates on a yearly basis. Increased sponsorship etc.

So yes the sky 3/4 was boring but it was at least the natural state. Having a couple of glorified penis extensions for a couple of random billionaires come along and fuck even the chance of that happening for us doesn't gladden me at all.

I makes me a very sad panda actually. :(
 

Danners9

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From Mediawatch:

Timing
October 23, 2015: Manchester City included on tour laid on by David Cameron and George Osborne for the visit of Chinese VIPs.

October 23, 2015: Sun Jihai inducted into the English Football Hall of Fame, a decision coinciding with Chinese Premier Xi Jinping visiting the National Football Museum.

December 1, 2015: £265m Chinese investment in Manchester City announced.
 

King of Otters

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I agree with the sentiment but the oil clubs doing it only makes the sitch worse. Especially for clubs like us on the bubble. Chelsea and now citeh have almost perma-fucked us. Without either of them we could have burst that Sky 3/4 bubble and done it off our own backs.

Instead, we've been consigned to the relative purgatory of EL football and having our best players cherry-picked for the last decade and not being able to build a team which contained the likes of Berbatov, Bale, Modric etc as a top 3/4 club with CL football and the mahoosive revenue spike that generates on a yearly basis. Increased sponsorship etc.

So yes the sky 3/4 was boring but it was at least the natural state. Having a couple of glorified penis extensions for a couple of random billionaires come along and fuck even the chance of that happening for us doesn't gladden me at all.

I makes me a very sad panda actually. :(

All good points. It is possible that we would have established ourselves in the top 4 without City and Chelsea, but not certain. If you think back to when Roman took over at Chelsea we were quite a way away from competing for the top 4 places. If anything, the likes of Newcastle, and Villa seemed better placed to make that leap, we were very slowly waking up from our 90s coma.

The Man City takeover is more complicated. This was the time when we were up there fighting for those spots, and it appears on the surface that they took what would have been our rightful place when Liverpool imploded. But, but.....what if City had remained a shit yo-yo club, where would Aguero have ended up? Silva, Toure? Certainly not Spurs. City became the most wealthy club in the league overnight, and as a consequence signed world class players who otherwise would have ended up at the Sky 4. You could argue that City weakened the Sky 4 in a way that we never could, by competing with them at the top of the market in terms of wages and fees. The relative weakness of Utd, Liverpool and Arsenal in the post-City world may never have come to pass without the oil money, and we may have remained perennially in fifth place, in 'purgatory', in much the same position as we are today.
 

Hoops

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I agree with the sentiment but the oil clubs doing it only makes the sitch worse. Especially for clubs like us on the bubble. Chelsea and now citeh have almost perma-fucked us. Without either of them we could have burst that Sky 3/4 bubble and done it off our own backs.

Instead, we've been consigned to the relative purgatory of EL football and having our best players cherry-picked for the last decade and not being able to build a team which contained the likes of Berbatov, Bale, Modric etc as a top 3/4 club with CL football and the mahoosive revenue spike that generates on a yearly basis. Increased sponsorship etc.

So yes the sky 3/4 was boring but it was at least the natural state. Having a couple of glorified penis extensions for a couple of random billionaires come along and fuck even the chance of that happening for us doesn't gladden me at all.

I makes me a very sad panda actually. :(

There is that what you said. But the flip side s perhaps they have raised the bar in the premier league and forced us to up our game? City and Chelsea will have made the whole league richer by bringing in investment and sponsorship and creatng interest. We are due to move into our stadium soon and we should be able to compete on a slightly more even playing field from then on.
 

Hoops

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All good points. It is possible that we would have established ourselves in the top 4 without City and Chelsea, but not certain. If you think back to when Roman took over at Chelsea we were quite a way away from competing for the top 4 places. If anything, the likes of Newcastle, and Villa seemed better placed to make that leap, we were very slowly waking up from our 90s coma.

The Man City takeover is more complicated. This was the time when we were up there fighting for those spots, and it appears on the surface that they took what would have been our rightful place when Liverpool imploded. But, but.....what if City had remained a shit yo-yo club, where would Aguero have ended up? Silva, Toure? Certainly not Spurs. City became the most wealthy club in the league overnight, and as a consequence signed world class players who otherwise would have ended up at the Sky 4. You could argue that City weakened the Sky 4 in a way that we never could, by competing with them at the top of the market in terms of wages and fees. The relative weakness of Utd, Liverpool and Arsenal in the post-City world may never have come to pass without the oil money, and we may have remained perennially in fifth place, in 'purgatory', in much the same position as we are today.

I agree, its not for certain we would have got champs league on a regular basis. Like I said in my other post, Chelsea and City have helped raise the var in the prem. Before that i was just Man U arse and liverpool.
 

Misfit

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All good points. It is possible that we would have established ourselves in the top 4 without City and Chelsea, but not certain. If you think back to when Roman took over at Chelsea we were quite a way away from competing for the top 4 places. If anything, the likes of Newcastle, and Villa seemed better placed to make that leap, we were very slowly waking up from our 90s coma.

The Man City takeover is more complicated. This was the time when we were up there fighting for those spots, and it appears on the surface that they took what would have been our rightful place when Liverpool imploded. But, but.....what if City had remained a shit yo-yo club, where would Aguero have ended up? Silva, Toure? Certainly not Spurs. City became the most wealthy club in the league overnight, and as a consequence signed world class players who otherwise would have ended up at the Sky 4. You could argue that City weakened the Sky 4 in a way that we never could, by competing with them at the top of the market in terms of wages and fees. The relative weakness of Utd, Liverpool and Arsenal in the post-City world may never have come to pass without the oil money, and we may have remained perennially in fifth place, in 'purgatory', in much the same position as we are today.
That's my point though. From '05 we were 5th best. Even then it was hard with the financial doping of Chelsea. We were right there though, Conehead shitting the bed with the BMJ firing and Wendy hiring didn't help things for a couple of years but who knows if those blue****s hadn't pinched FWank and made him head teaboy what would have happened to us? A lot of what ifs going on here I grant you.

We were waiting for an opportunity and worked hard to get ourselves into that position. It comes along and then bang, another financially doped club comes along and takes it. No hardwork, no groundwork and at our expense.

So I'll never be happy to see citeh, or Chelsea, up there. Fuck the the fucking fucks.

Fuck.
 
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Misfit

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There is that what you said. But the flip side s perhaps they have raised the bar in the premier league and forced us to up our game? City and Chelsea will have made the whole league richer by bringing in investment and sponsorship and creatng interest. We are due to move into our stadium soon and we should be able to compete on a slightly more even playing field from then on.
They forced us to do nothing imo. Levy came in early 00's and had a couple of false starts but it was clear he was about changing us into a serious club again. We raised our bar and put ourselves in as a good a position to take advantage of any slip ups the powerhouse teams had, which was abut the best we could do after all. Every other club had similar chances but we did it best. It then happens and voila, citeh come along with an oily chequebook and through sheer hard work and careful, meticulous planning, spend a billion pounds overnight and take advantage of that slip up.

You've got admire that kind of talent I guess.
 

Col_M

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I wonder when they'll start signing Chinese players and be forced to name one in the squad each week to meet contractual obligations ?
 

Hoops

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I wonder when they'll start signing Chinese players and be forced to name one in the squad each week to meet contractual obligations ?

I honestly believe that the US league or the Chinese league will take over the Pl in the next 20/30 years. Football is getting really popular in the US. All they need to do is takeaway the salary cap and the league would grow overnight to 6th best in the world.
 

Lilbaz

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I honestly believe that the US league or the Chinese league will take over the Pl in the next 20/30 years. Football is getting really popular in the US. All they need to do is takeaway the salary cap and the league would grow overnight to 6th best in the world.

Premier league is still more popular in america than mls. Far more popular in the rest of the world. Time difference alone will restrict their audience.
 
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