Let's All Laugh At... Lets all laugh at Man City

[1882andallthat]

Pep Guardiola makes a pop by saying his achievement this is greater than winning the Champions League. If and it is a big if Pochettino wins the Champions League with us can that really be said to be true ? I’m not so sure. Let’s put it another way. With the excellent training facilities and unlimited resources at their disposal, if they’d swapped roles, could Pochettino have bagged this domestic treble this season with all these resources and facilities had he been managing Man City instead? I would say it’s more probable he could have done than Guardiola could have done in getting Spurs to the Champions League final, getting to the League Cup Semi Final and only losing out on pens against a team with bags of money and Champions League qualification with zero transfer funds, a shed load of injuries, a threadbare bench on many match days in comparison to Man City’s not to mention having delay after delay with moving grounds, and having to put up with endless speculation in the media about key players leaving and not renewing contracts. Guardiola would have moaned to Levy that he didn’t have gilt edged privileged gold plated tools to do the job and he would have walked, I’m sure of it, because he’s never proven he can do it the hard way. The only doubt in my mind about whether Pochettino achieving what Guardiola did, was whether he could have held off the relentless pressure Liverpool heaped on every week by pushing them to the last game to win the PL. I say doubt but I’m not saying Pochettino couldn’t have done, in my opinion it is more likely to have done than Guardiola would have done in getting us what we have this season. So in my opinion his achievements are not yet greater than ours if you take all factors into consideration.

 

[luptic]

To be fair to City, with the resources they have, they should be after De Ligt. Major cash outlay, but its a deal for life, as long as you pay Raiola what he wants every year.

 

[hughy]

To be fair to City, with the resources they have, they should be after De Ligt. Major cash outlay, but its a deal for life, as long as you pay Raiola what he wants every year.

Him and Laporte for the next 8 years could be formidable.

I don't think they'll go for Toby, they'll want a long term replacement.

 

[Danners9]

Kompany is going back to Anderlecht:



looks like a new Marvel series.

 

[Japhet]

Liverpool and United didn’t have the financial clout of a sovereign nation behind them. Not even Chelsea had that.

And no, Pep won’t be there forever, but he’s not the god many people make him out to be. I bet Neil Warnock, or Sam Allardyce could win the league with City’s squad.

When you're dealing with huge egos and prima donna players they have to have the utmost respect for the Manager. That's what Pep has because he's done all of the things they want to do as players. Not many ex players in that club and probably none with anywhere near his ability to manage a team and deploy tactics.

 

[jolsnogross]

I'm glad the reporter got under Guardiola's skin in the post match conference. Perfectly relevant question - Mancini was apparently paid off the books, are you also under that type of agreement? It reflects back to FFP and essentially cheating. Which is relevant after a final when they tear an opponent to shreds by bring on on the like of deBruyne for Mahrez.

As with Chelsea before them (and now still), their achievements come with an asterisk. A big, oligarchy-funded asterisk.

 

[Tucker]

When you're dealing with huge egos and prima donna players they have to have the utmost respect for the Manager. That's what Pep has because he's done all of the things they want to do as players. Not many ex players in that club and probably none with anywhere near his ability to manage a team and deploy tactics.

Guardiola is a great coach, but my point is he’s not the reason for their success. Mancini was able to win the league too, and he didn’t exactly deal with the egos that well did he. His city were able to get over the line because they had more money than the opposition. Ditto Skeletor, and Ditto Pep.

As others have said, there’ll always be an asterisk next to their achievements.

 

[TheChosenOne]

I'm glad the reporter got under Guardiola's skin in the post match conference. Perfectly relevant question - Mancini was apparently paid off the books, are you also under that type of agreement? It reflects back to FFP and essentially cheating. Which is relevant after a final when they tear an opponent to shreds by bring on on the like of deBruyne for Mahrez.

As with Chelsea before them (and now still), their achievements come with an asterisk. A big, oligarchy-funded asterisk.

Yet Rodney Marsh thought it was brutal to bring on Harry Kane in the match against Tranmere and the entire
media plus much of the country went and climbed aboard the same bandwagon.

 

[$hoguN]

To be fair to City, with the resources they have, they should be after De Ligt. Major cash outlay, but its a deal for life, as long as you pay Raiola what he wants every year.

The world would be a better place without Raiola and thee so called super agents

 

[spursfan77]

I'm glad the reporter got under Guardiola's skin in the post match conference. Perfectly relevant question - Mancini was apparently paid off the books, are you also under that type of agreement? It reflects back to FFP and essentially cheating. Which is relevant after a final when they tear an opponent to shreds by bring on on the like of deBruyne for Mahrez.

As with Chelsea before them (and now still), their achievements come with an asterisk. A big, oligarchy-funded asterisk.

He refused to answer too which just made him look guilty.

 

[Thewobbler]

Kompany is going back to Anderlecht:



looks like a new Marvel series.

Player -manager.

 

[Mr Pink]

Pep Guardiola makes a pop by saying his achievement this is greater than winning the Champions League. If and it is a big if Pochettino wins the Champions League with us can that really be said to be true ? I’m not so sure. Let’s put it another way. With the excellent training facilities and unlimited resources at their disposal, if they’d swapped roles, could Pochettino have bagged this domestic treble this season with all these resources and facilities had he been managing Man City instead? I would say it’s more probable he could have done than Guardiola could have done in getting Spurs to the Champions League final, getting to the League Cup Semi Final and only losing out on pens against a team with bags of money and Champions League qualification with zero transfer funds, a shed load of injuries, a threadbare bench on many match days in comparison to Man City’s not to mention having delay after delay with moving grounds, and having to put up with endless speculation in the media about key players leaving and not renewing contracts. Guardiola would have moaned to Levy that he didn’t have gilt edged privileged gold plated tools to do the job and he would have walked, I’m sure of it, because he’s never proven he can do it the hard way. The only doubt in my mind about whether Pochettino achieving what Guardiola did, was whether he could have held off the relentless pressure Liverpool heaped on every week by pushing them to the last game to win the PL. I say doubt but I’m not saying Pochettino couldn’t have done, in my opinion it is more likely to have done than Guardiola would have done in getting us what we have this season. So in my opinion his achievements are not yet greater than ours if you take all factors into consideration.

Spurs winning the CL is a far bigger achievement than City's domestic success - which is like a par at golf. Expected, well done.

Spurs winning the CL is far from expected. The comparison isn't even close imo.

 

[cookiemonster]

Player -manager.

Thought he is going to start a school for mutants

 

[BehindEnemyLines]

Spurs winning the CL is a far bigger achievement than City's domestic success - which is like a par at golf. Expected, well done.

Spurs winning the CL is far from expected. The comparison isn't even close imo.

Not only that, but City's draws in both cups were extraordinarily easy - I'm pretty certain any of the top 6 would have won either cup if they'd had similar draws!

Man City:
FA Cup - Rotherham United, Burnley, Newport County, Swansea City, Brighton & Hove Albion, Watford
Carabao Cup - Oxford United, Fulham, Leicester City, Burton Albion, Chelsea

 

[tototoner]

Very good read this

 

[Krule]

Vincent Kompany leaves Manchester City to become Anderlecht player-manager - http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/48325845

Thought he'd have one more season at City but he's left at the top with them I guess.

 

[spursfan77]

Vincent Kompany leaves Manchester City to become Anderlecht player-manager - http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/48325845

Thought he'd have one more season at City but he's left at the top with them I guess.

No journos or media got a sniff this was happening. Makes you wonder how much they really know. Although I think I already know the answer!

 

[Sandros Shiny Head]

Pep Guardiola makes a pop by saying his achievement this is greater than winning the Champions League. If and it is a big if Pochettino wins the Champions League with us can that really be said to be true ? I’m not so sure. Let’s put it another way. With the excellent training facilities and unlimited resources at their disposal, if they’d swapped roles, could Pochettino have bagged this domestic treble this season with all these resources and facilities had he been managing Man City instead? I would say it’s more probable he could have done than Guardiola could have done in getting Spurs to the Champions League final, getting to the League Cup Semi Final and only losing out on pens against a team with bags of money and Champions League qualification with zero transfer funds, a shed load of injuries, a threadbare bench on many match days in comparison to Man City’s not to mention having delay after delay with moving grounds, and having to put up with endless speculation in the media about key players leaving and not renewing contracts. Guardiola would have moaned to Levy that he didn’t have gilt edged privileged gold plated tools to do the job and he would have walked, I’m sure of it, because he’s never proven he can do it the hard way. The only doubt in my mind about whether Pochettino achieving what Guardiola did, was whether he could have held off the relentless pressure Liverpool heaped on every week by pushing them to the last game to win the PL. I say doubt but I’m not saying Pochettino couldn’t have done, in my opinion it is more likely to have done than Guardiola would have done in getting us what we have this season. So in my opinion his achievements are not yet greater than ours if you take all factors into consideration.

You've put too much thought into it, Poch winning the CL this year would be a 100000% greater achievement than anything Pep has ever done. He's an amazing coach but he's never done anything with any kind of adversity

 

[ikky]

 

[Tucker]

Very good read this

Depressing, but spot on.