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[StartingPrice]

Pep Guardiola is an amazing manager, provided he has a team of world class players and an almost infinite transfer fund...

Just needs a couple of refs in his pocket and his business will be done for the window.

Oh, yeah, and if you could arrange for the league to not be quite so competitive...maybe just one serious competitor...and maybe get any team from 8th down to just be a gimme that rolls over once you get your traditional couple of goals ahead...would be mucho appreciated

 

[dude573]

It is easy to criticise money clubs, but if you have it you mas as well use it. But no way can Pep stay on if they fail to win the league this season. Everything about their spending suggests that the owners want instant success.

 

[bubble07]

City have spent over 300m on keepers and defenders since 2014

 

[Shadydan]

City have spent over 300m on keepers and defenders since 2014

That is absolutely outrageous.

 

[Japhet]

That is absolutely outrageous.

I'd be interested to see what Pep or Maureen could do with an average club with average resources. I reckon they'd both do well to last a season.

 

[Doctor Dinkey]

There's nothing I've seen from Guardiola this year that suggests he's a superior manager to Pochettino.

 

[dirtyh]

the more competitive a league is, the more these so-called 'top' managers feel they have to spend in order to be competitive.

jose and pep are just frauds as coaches and that's being played out. nothing city do this season is going to be worth a shit.

 

[YiddoTom90]

Bet walker regrets the move now, danilo and mendy.

 

[UncleBuck]

Bet walker regrets the move now, danilo and mendy.

I'm sure the extra £50k+ a week will help...

 

[Tucker]

Bet walker regrets the move now, danilo and mendy.

Hope he loses his England place to Tripps.

 

[Japhet]

Bet walker regrets the move now, danilo and mendy.

Wouldn't be at all surprised if he misses out on game time and Trippier nicks his England shirt as well.

 

[dirtyh]

nicked from redcafe........

Annual spending on defence:

USA £820bn
Cuba £700m
Man City £200m
Bosnia £180m
Congo £135m

 

[rossdapep]

I've defended Guardiola in the past as I do think he's an exceptional coach but what he is doing at City is effectively cheating. I was kind of expecting him to bring in some youth players and adapt them to his methods, like he did at Barca. If City go on and win stuff this year, he deserves very limited praise.......Mourinho too.

 

[RichieS]

the more competitive a league is, the more these so-called 'top' managers feel they have to spend in order to be competitive.

jose and pep are just frauds as coaches and that's being played out. nothing city do this season is going to be worth a shit.

Agree with the second half of this sentence, but the first half is just wrong.

Mourinho's winning of the CL with Porto marks him out as something special by itself and it is difficult to argue with his career trophy haul (world class **** though he is).

Guardiola took the same players that were available to Rijkaard at Barça and literally redefined the way football was played for the next decade or so. Blaming him for having Messi, Xavi and Iniesta is weird given that it was he that developed them to the levels they reached.

 

[dirtyh]

Agree with the second half of this sentence, but the first half is just wrong.

Mourinho's winning of the CL with Porto marks him out as something special by itself and it is difficult to argue with his career trophy haul (world class **** though he is).

Guardiola took the same players that were available to Rijkaard at Barça and literally redefined the way football was played for the next decade or so. Blaming him for having Messi, Xavi and Iniesta is weird given that it was he that developed them to the levels they reached.

fair do's on the barca exploits but again he had extremely talented players all hitting the heights at the same time. You can't question the tiki taka thing though so maybe was a bit hasty. Jose did well at porto again but hulk and falcao were probably the 2 top players in europe at the time and eveywhere he's been since he's needed a ton of money.

I'd concede the truth is somewhere in between but i'd love to see these so-called super coaches in charge at a lower end club where they need to operate on a budget. then we'd see how good they are.

 

[rossdapep]

fair do's on the barca exploits but again he had extremely talented players all hitting the heights at the same time. You can't question the tiki taka thing though so maybe was a bit hasty. Jose did well at porto again but hulk and falcao were probably the 2 top players in europe at the time and eveywhere he's been since he's needed a ton of money.

I'd concede the truth is somewhere in between but i'd love to see these so-called super coaches in charge at a lower end club where they need to operate on a budget. then we'd see how good they are.

Jose never coached Hulk and Falcao at Porto. That was AVB

 

[dirtyh]

Jose never coached Hulk and Falcao at Porto. That was AVB

nice one, so it was. oh look, there goes my entire argument up in flames hahaha.

jose's still a ****.

 

[rossdapep]

nice one, so it was. oh look, there goes my entire argument up in flames hahaha.

jose's still a ****.

Yep, that is certainly true.

What Mourinho did at Porto was exceptional but i'd also argue that other than knocking out United (who I always felt underachieved somewhat in Europe under Fergie), Porto didn't actually face anybody who was better than them other than Madrid in the group stages. I couldn't see Mourinho pulling off the same feat today with the way that Barca, Madrid, Bayern and Juve dominate. Although he won it with Inter, again i think the competition was less intense, and that Inter team was pretty good too. He struggled with Madrid and Chelsea where he had much more resources and he won the Europa League this year with what happened to be the poorest it's been for some time.

I guess what I am trying to say is, give Mourinho much more competition and intense rivalry and he doesn't stand out so much, give him an advantage and he pretty much knocks it out the park. Fair play to him for doing so, and he is still a winner, I just don't think he's this revelation some in the media believe he is.

Guardiola redefined that Barca team. In his first ever management job - excluding the youth team role - he took the brave decision to ditch some of the best players in the world at that time (Ronaldinho, Deco, Eto'o) in order to make Messi the focal point and at the same time he gave the likes of Busquets and Pedro the chance to become established players, he put his faith in the system that Barca had developed and coached the players to perfect it. That is a great manager in my eyes.

What Guardiola is doing at City is abandoning everything that made him great. Buy ready-made players, block the paths of those kids he once trusted and ya'know what, I think it'll blow up in his face.

 

[spursfan77]

Would be bloody hilarious if they don't strengthen central defence and still ship a shitload of goals next season as a result.

I think its more than likely. I keep banging on about it but the centre of their midfield is so powder puff. No defensive awareness at all. Thats their achilles heal.

 

[spursfan77]

I listened to the Monday night club on 5 live last night and they said they've basically bought 2 fullbacks that are good going forward. For example, the French guy on there said Mendy is really good at crossing and is fast but his positioning and tactical awareness require working on. Don't get much for £50 million nowadays!