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West ham are gambling. The board got scared last season with the protests and flirt with relegation. They have also had some bad injuries. It seems they have gone all in. But with big investment comes massive pressure for the manager He has to deliver something, but with so many players being integrated it will take time. We'll see if he's given it.

I keep getting the feeling that Miss Piggy and the Uggos are trying to make some sort of Facade for the club, trying to make it look like a club worth buying, by putting in the minimum (and short term) effort to improve it.

BAM! Modern Stadium (rented)
BAM! Premier-League-winning manager (with City)
BAM! Look at these world class players! (*potential....on FM....a few serious injuries ago).

They did it last season with trying to make a team with Joe Hart, Patrice Evra, Chicharito etc. Trying to make champagne out of lemonade.
 

Chinaspur

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Arsenal are no mugs and to just release him without any attempt to keep him talks volumes.

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JonnySpurs

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Not really sure what to make of Felipe Anderson. Some people, including West Ham's PR machine say he's mustard, while his stats and other people's comments suggest otherwise. Anyone watched him week-to-week?

I'll be honest, I'm astounded that they've managed to sign him. A year or two ago he was being heavily linked with Man Utd and he was one of Lazio's better players in his time there. I haven't watched him very often so I can't comment on whether this will be a great signing but it does feel as though it could be another Payet move to me. I wouldn't be surprised if he ended up having a similar impact to what Payet did for me.

Beyond that though their signings are a bit all over the place IMO and as we well know, as do Everton, intergrating that many players into a new side, with a new manager as well, is a recipe for failure.

I'm most certainly not worried about them, they are a LONG way behind us.
 

shelfboy68

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I'll be honest, I'm astounded that they've managed to sign him. A year or two ago he was being heavily linked with Man Utd and he was one of Lazio's better players in his time there. I haven't watched him very often so I can't comment on whether this will be a great signing but it does feel as though it could be another Payet move to me. I wouldn't be surprised if he ended up having a similar impact to what Payet did for me.

Beyond that though their signings are a bit all over the place IMO and as we well know, as do Everton, intergrating that many players into a new side, with a new manager as well, is a recipe for failure.

I'm most certainly not worried about them, they are a LONG way behind us.
I agree a trolley dash does nothing to convince me that they are a threat or even relevant, and as for Anderson if the top six or other big clubs had been sniffing around hammers would have had no chance.
 

JonnySpurs

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I agree a trolley dash does nothing to convince me that they are a threat or even relevant, and as for Anderson if the top six or other big clubs had been sniffing around hammers would have had no chance.

Indeed, there must be a reason that having once been linked with the bigger clubs he's since ended up at, let's be honest, a really poor club like West Ham.

Any player agent worth his salt should have looked at West Ham last season and been mortified by what he saw going on there so it seems to me that West Ham must be paying him way over the odds in terms of salary to get him to move there. Lazio won't be in CL next seaon but still in europe and able to compete for CL in Serie A so he was better off staying there IMO.
 
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allatsea

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Indeed, there must be a reason that having once been linked with the bigger clubs he's since ended up at, let's be honest, a really poor club like West Ham.

Any player agent worth his salt should have looked at West Ham last season and been mortified by what he saw going on there so it seems to me that West Ham must be paying him way over the odds in terms of salary to get him to move there. Lazio weren't in CL but still in europe and able to compete for CL in Serie A so he was better off staying there IMO.

Very telling that no better club throughout Europe was interested in signing him.
 

shelfboy68

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Indeed, there must be a reason that having once been linked with the bigger clubs he's since ended up at, let's be honest, a really poor club like West Ham.

Any player agent worth his salt should have looked at West Ham last season and been mortified by what he saw going on there so it seems to me that West Ham must be paying him way over the odds in terms of salary to get him to move there. Lazio won't be in CL next seaon but still in europe and able to compete for CL in Serie A so he was better off staying there IMO.
Indeed I have a few hammer friends and it seems they are so desperate to be recognised as a big club because they now have a big stadium in which around 20,000 season tickets are less than £300.
A big stadium doesn't make you a big club when you haven't won anything for decades(See Newcastle) and don't even finish top six on a regular basis, I'm 50 and in my time their average league position must be 10th - 12th a mid table side.
But as you say they probably are over paying to get them through the door luckily for us we don't have such financial madness and because of our position can afford to bring in the right profile of player who really wants to play for us.
 

mark87

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Indeed I have a few hammer friends and it seems they are so desperate to be recognised as a big club because they now have a big stadium in which around 20,000 season tickets are less than £300.
A big stadium doesn't make you a big club when you haven't won anything for decades(See Newcastle) and don't even finish top six on a regular basis, I'm 50 and in my time their average league position must be 10th - 12th a mid table side.
But as you say they probably are over paying to get them through the door luckily for us we don't have such financial madness and because of our position can afford to bring in the right profile of player who really wants to play for us.

They will never be considered a big club if they keep getting knocked out of the EL qualifiers by European pub teams whenever they do miraculously manage to get to the EL qualifying stage, which barely ever happens. They're delusional, from the board all the way to the fans.
 

shelfboy68

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They will never be considered a big club if they keep getting knocked out of the EL qualifiers by European pub teams whenever they do miraculously manage to get to the EL qualifying stage, which barely ever happens. They're delusional, from the board all the way to the fans.
Couldn't agree more
 

allatsea

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They will never be considered a big club if they keep getting knocked out of the EL qualifiers by European pub teams whenever they do miraculously manage to get to the EL qualifying stage, which barely ever happens. They're delusional, from the board all the way to the fans.

Last time they were knocked out before the PL season began :ROFLMAO:
 

ajspurs

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Indeed I have a few hammer friends and it seems they are so desperate to be recognised as a big club because they now have a big stadium in which around 20,000 season tickets are less than £300.
A big stadium doesn't make you a big club when you haven't won anything for decades(See Newcastle) and don't even finish top six on a regular basis, I'm 50 and in my time their average league position must be 10th - 12th a mid table side.
But as you say they probably are over paying to get them through the door luckily for us we don't have such financial madness and because of our position can afford to bring in the right profile of player who really wants to play for us.

I've said it before but it still seems weird and it's strange because every team strives to be better and move up a level, what's the point if you don't but there's just such a massive sense of desperation when it comes to West Ham.

They're the type of club that just wants to sign players and staff based on their names and stature as opposed to doing so with a desired identity in mind. Really feel like such a wannabe team.
 

shelfboy68

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I've said it before but it still seems weird and it's strange because every team strives to be better and move up a level, what's the point if you don't but there's just such a massive sense of desperation when it comes to West Ham.

They're the type of club that just wants to sign players and staff based on their names and stature as opposed to doing so with a desired identity in mind. Really feel like such a wannabe team.
But so are their fans all wannabes as well all of them think they are the next cass pennant when in fact they have more in common with mama cass.
A truly repulsive club with odious owners down to the pre Thames works early man, they deserve nothing and will win fuck all.
 

Bus-Conductor

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Very telling that no better club throughout Europe was interested in signing him.

To be fair, it was the same with Payet.

Not really sure what to make of Felipe Anderson. Some people, including West Ham's PR machine say he's mustard, while his stats and other people's comments suggest otherwise. Anyone watched him week-to-week?

I can't claim to have watched him week to week, but I did watch a bit of Serie A last season and Lazio were the highest scorers in that league I think. Anderson's bare stats might not look brilliant, but he only played 1100 minutes (9 starts I think) - he actually averaged nearly a goal or an assist per 90. I'm not sure why he didn't start more but I think it had a lot to do with them playing a kind of 3511/352 formation, which couldn't always accommodate Immobile, him and Alberto.

I don't now anything about his character, or much about how hard he works without the ball etc, but whenever I saw him play I thought he clearly has talent, he's better than Lanzini IMO, though to be fair, I was never as impressed by Lanzini as others.

As Ive said elsewhere, if Pellegrini still has his mojo and can get a tune out of all these signings quickly, they've done some interesting business.
 

DJS

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I can’t believe how often Carroll is injured.

And there have been snippets on here suggesting he doesn’t really live the proper lifestyle of a professional sports person.

If i found evidence he wasn’t looking after himself properly I’d be docking his wages as he’s a joke and is stealing a living.
 

coys200

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I think they are in a very precarious situation as a club. With these owners spending this kind of money it just doesn’t sit right. Add to that the unstable stadium situation and anything could happen. If they ended up another Leeds nobody would be surprised. They also have a horrendous start have to play 7 of last seasons top 8 in first 9 games. Will definitely be having my customary £20 on them to go down.
 
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shelfboy68

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To be fair, it was the same with Payet.



I can't claim to have watched him week to week, but I did watch a bit of Serie A last season and Lazio were the highest scorers in that league I think. Anderson's bare stats might not look brilliant, but he only played 1100 minutes (9 starts I think) - he actually averaged nearly a goal or an assist per 90. I'm not sure why he didn't start more but I think it had a lot to do with them playing a kind of 3511/352 formation, which couldn't always accommodate Immobile, him and Alberto.

I don't now anything about his character, or much about how hard he works without the ball etc, but whenever I saw him play I thought he clearly has talent, he's better than Lanzini IMO, though to be fair, I was never as impressed by Lanzini as others.

As Ive said elsewhere, if Pellegrini still has his mojo and can get a tune out of all these signings quickly, they've done some interesting business.
It's a lot of players to get a tune out of though in one go.
 

Tucker

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I can’t believe how often Carroll is injured.

And there have been snippets on here suggesting he doesn’t really live the proper lifestyle of a professional sports person.

If i found evidence he wasn’t looking after himself properly I’d be docking his wages as he’s a joke and is stealing a living.

He must be so frustrating to manage. He’s undoubtedly got talent, but seems intent on self destruction.
 

Young Nasty Man

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I am under a strong impression this is a do or die season for them. It seems like a lot of money has been spent with the overarching theme that they are going to be able to fill those seats with a european tournament in the mix. Can't see them finishing top 6 let alone top 4, but I think they can very well finish top 10. Pellegrini is a good manager that typically does well with clubs in a similar position as West Ham. They have added some decent names, but all will need time to adjust. All in all, if they don't finish top 10 this season, don't be surprised if they liquidate the balls off of this team. Too much money has been spent for them to finish as a mediocre side. Other than the notables, they seem to be on par with Everton when looking at the paper lineup.
 
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