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tototoner

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Stats like that can be misleading, for example look at the same stats for Tottenham managers

Tottenham managers
League win %

Sherwood 59
Pochettino 57.9
Villas-Boas 53.7
Redknapp 49.3
Rowe 47.8
Nicholson 45.9
Jol 41.2
Burkinshaw 39
Venables 37.2

PS got this from Topspurs so don't know if it includes yesterdays game
 
May 17, 2018
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Stats like that can be misleading, for example look at the same stats for Tottenham managers

Tottenham managers
League win %

Sherwood 59
Pochettino 57.9
Villas-Boas 53.7
Redknapp 49.3
Rowe 47.8
Nicholson 45.9
Jol 41.2
Burkinshaw 39
Venables 37.2

PS got this from Topspurs so don't know if it includes yesterdays game

How is it misleading?

Sherwood was, to a certain extent, the X-Men Origins Wade Wilson for us, and would have had a lot more support if he had learnt to keep his gob closed from around January onwards. As much as he did things in an arse-about-tit way, he was pretty much spot on about 80% of the squad, and nearly 100% correct about the academy lads we had on the fringes.
 

Japhet

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Bad news. Need Mourinho fired asap. If he makes it to the summer they're going to come so hard for Poch it's going to be very difficult to resist. Mid season I reckon we could see them off.

I think they've got Zidane lined up.
 

thebenjamin

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Don't see Zidane there at all. They club needs a root and branch overhaul, whereas Zidane is known as a 'clap your hands' coach in Spain. I don't even think he'd take the job.
 

nailsy

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Don't see Zidane there at all. They club needs a root and branch overhaul, whereas Zidane is known as a 'clap your hands' coach in Spain. I don't even think he'd take the job.

I doubt that would stop them appointing him. They ignored Jose's abrasive reputation because he wins things, I'm sure they wouldn't care what sort of coach Zidane if they thought he could get them winning things again.
 

tototoner

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How is it misleading?

Sherwood was, to a certain extent, the X-Men Origins Wade Wilson for us, and would have had a lot more support if he had learnt to keep his gob closed from around January onwards. As much as he did things in an arse-about-tit way, he was pretty much spot on about 80% of the squad, and nearly 100% correct about the academy lads we had on the fringes.
I don't disagree but there isn't much time for him among fans even though his record is actually very good
 
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I don't disagree but there isn't much time for him among fans even though his record is actually very good

imo, the major difference between Fergie and Mourinho at United is, for the most part, board level respect.

SAF got away with a lot from his squad because they no doubt knew he was invincible. Mourinho has always struggled with player power because I think they know his is the first cock on the block.


I think stats like Moaniho's are interesting, as they serve to highlight just how difficult the league has become in the last 5 seasons. After all, wasn't it AVB who got us the most PL points ever to not qualify for the CL?
 

Col_M

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The FA are investigating Jose for something he said in Portuguese. Can’t see anything that says what he says.
 

'O Zio

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Don't see Zidane there at all. They club needs a root and branch overhaul, whereas Zidane is known as a 'clap your hands' coach in Spain. I don't even think he'd take the job.

I agree he's not what they need, but I still think he'd take the job if offered it.

In Spain I don't think he'd be able to go to any of the other big clubs i.e. Barca due to his Real Madrid affiliations, Serie A I could only see him being interested in the Juve job at the moment, and Allegri is still there and not likely to get sacked any time soon, so that only leaves the Premiership as an option where, despite all the drama over recent years, Man Utd are still by far the biggest most prestigious club and perhaps more importantly they're the only Top 6 job that's likely to be available any time soon. In France, PSG have just appointed Tuchel so that's not on the table either. Basically, I don't think he has that many options so I don't think he's in a position to turn down Man Utd if they came in for him, regardless of the fact that he's not well suited to the current situation there.
 

thebenjamin

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I agree he's not what they need, but I still think he'd take the job if offered it.

In Spain I don't think he'd be able to go to any of the other big clubs i.e. Barca due to his Real Madrid affiliations, Serie A I could only see him being interested in the Juve job at the moment, and Allegri is still there and not likely to get sacked any time soon, so that only leaves the Premiership as an option where, despite all the drama over recent years, Man Utd are still by far the biggest most prestigious club and perhaps more importantly they're the only Top 6 job that's likely to be available any time soon. In France, PSG have just appointed Tuchel so that's not on the table either. Basically, I don't think he has that many options so I don't think he's in a position to turn down Man Utd if they came in for him, regardless of the fact that he's not well suited to the current situation there.

Apparently he only wants the French national team job.
 

'O Zio

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Apparently he only wants the French national team job.

That would probably make the most sense for him. To be fair I think he'd probably be alright at that because you don't have so much time to be some tactical mastermind anyway at international level. His style is probably quite suited to the international game i.e. just managing the egos by being the biggest most famous player in the room at all times and being respected by everyone.
 

kaz Hirai

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Shares in Manchester United have surged in New York amid reports Saudi Arabia's crown prince is mulling a takeover of the club.
The Sun newspaper reported Crown Prince Mohammed bin Salman, currently battling claims his country has murdered a prominent journalist, was due to meet club co-owner and co-chair Avram Glazer in the kingdom.

It claimed the prince was interested in supporting the purchase of a major stake worth about £3bn or a full takeover.

Full story sky news
https://news.sky.com/story/manchester-united-shares-rise-amid-saudi-prince-takeover-talk-11526592

Suppose it makes little difference if they are taken over as they already have as much spending power as city and Chelsea
 

King of Otters

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Shares in Manchester United have surged in New York amid reports Saudi Arabia's crown prince is mulling a takeover of the club.
The Sun newspaper reported Crown Prince Mohammed bin Salman, currently battling claims his country has murdered a prominent journalist, was due to meet club co-owner and co-chair Avram Glazer in the kingdom.

It claimed the prince was interested in supporting the purchase of a major stake worth about £3bn or a full takeover.

Full story sky news
https://news.sky.com/story/manchester-united-shares-rise-amid-saudi-prince-takeover-talk-11526592

Suppose it makes little difference if they are taken over as they already have as much spending power as city and Chelsea

Wouldn't be a great look for Utd getting taken over by the Saudis tbh.
 
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