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There's always this post form Hercules which, went under the radar a bit, I think...

http://www.spurscommunity.co.uk/ind...thread-post-mortem.135469/page-5#post-6192502

Poch is not going anywhere. He is content and fiercely ambitious to succeeed with us. The spin is, we expected to of been in the NWHL. And our transfer plans was around that. As there would be external finances bought in, which would satisfy the balance sheets etc. Unfortunately, we have been frustrated, which puts restrictions on the way we want to operate, inclusive of wages.

That being said, funds were available. And a decent amount at that, but Poch did not like the subjects offered. A couple of them I disagree with his stance. But he has earned that right. Nobody is going to mention what the budget is. But there will be a good amount. Take it into mind 2 windows has passed and we have not spent, though funds were available.

I am told, and agree we have heard that before. But new stadium releases more immediate funds to add to the kitty. And with sponsorship being activated, will trigger those funds. I again see optimistic ratings coming. Personally, I think as a corporate company, and for the very least PR, we should of bought in at the very least, one player. Or announced a signing agreed for the summer. This will test the metal of Poch, more than our Daniel. Poch knows the score. I expect couple of senior players to be moved on.

VJ’s situation, we got cocked about a lot from clubs who proposed to buy him outright, and play us off until it was too late. Daniel should of taken a loan. But told that it wasn’t that straight forward.
That last bit you've highlighted sounds really encouraging ? Thanks Daryl! Let's hope so, eh mate! Hope all's good with you, Daryl.
 

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So, no real answers to the patience conundrum. Handy that :D

Interesting that those who are being the biggest dicks about it show a complete lack of patience when anyone holding a contrary opinion rocks up.
 

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If you believe the rumours and reports of what Rabiot said, I think we went in for him this last window but he turned us down.
If we had bought him I’m not sure we would be having this argument. We didn’t get anyone else as the transfer team didn’t think there was anyone else available they wanted for the same or less than Rabiot would have cost....
 

vegassd

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So, no real answers to the patience conundrum. Handy that :D
If a point is raised in an ENIC thread that's written in a calm way without being offensive it will very often be ignored!!

If you had called somebody gullible or naive there would have been a few more replies I reckon. Definitely another 4 or 5 'winner' ratings by my reckoning. Do keep up A&C! ;)
 

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Look I've no idea why you're foaming at the mouth, hurling petulance and sarcasm around because someone has proffered a view you don't want to hear (but I suspect it's because that's a far easier recourse than trying to formulate a credible counter-argument).
I laid out how I felt quite simply in one of my first replies which is when you went full 'Fluster Rhymes - Flap mode squad' Quite simply, all us grown-ups (knee-jerkers) are doing is debating the following questions/concerns: is the increasing cost of the Stadium build impacting the transfer budget? If you had paid any attention to replies to your post, you would have seen the THST minutes laying out that this was not the case. Is the lack of signings in the last 12 months indicative of those spiralling costs? Similar question, but also covered in the THST minutes, no basically. Is that a trend that might continue until the stadium is paid for? Fuck, basically the same again, still been covered. Might we be hampered in the transfer market in the same way that the Scum have been? Again. After the NWHL has opened, will ENIC look to invest more of the increased match day revenue in the squad, or will they continue with a "sell to buy" policy? Ooooh, new question!! I think, imo, that the increased revenues will be more used to allow us to compete on wages - we have always professed to have funds for buying players but unable to back it up with wages. For me, that will be the most noticable difference in our approach. Are ENIC actively looking to sell the Club, and if so, how might that impact on "spending power" down the line? I don't know how anyone except Mr. Levy can know this. Spending power would surely depend on who bought the club. Now, if you feel any of the above is even remotely a possibility, why not debate it respectfully? Or if you're confident that none of the above is a possibility, again I ask, why not offer that opinion in a respectful and considered way? Because when you look to close down the discussion with juvenile phrases like "you're just saying that cos you don't like the Board" I didn't say that, or "you're just a bed wetter" The sheets were wet, "you're just being hysterical" , you literally add nothing to the debate and just make yourself look like a 14 year old child Err, if i'm getting served mate, i'm a 14 year-old grown up!. So like I said, if you have anything constructive to add to the conversation, or if you have any answers to the above questions, please feel free to share them; allay my "hysteria". Or, of course, if that proves too challenging for you, you can always embarrass yourself with more name calling, "chap".

I've answered (again) your concerns with my views. Again. So please feel free to ask exactly the same question 5 times in your next post. Please also add more hysteria and over the top assertions which you seem to pluck from thin air in the face of available contrary information...

My answers are in bold.
 

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So, no real answers to the patience conundrum. Handy that :D

Interesting that those who are being the biggest dicks about it show a complete lack of patience when anyone holding a contrary opinion rocks up.


I think 'two-shots' summed it up quite well, for where I stand on the matter...:

For me the patience will dry up when we stop competing at the level we are right now. We are considered a permanent fixture at the moment in the top 6 teams in the country and have been jostling with those around us for a consistent enough period for me to be actually be quite content with our position. We are also regularly talked about as playing some of the best football in the league.

I don't seem to recall so much patience being observed the last couple of times we did win something so I have to really question if winning is the be all and end all.

Perhaps it's about building us up to a position where we can win things consistency is the answer. That's what perhaps keeps the Chelsea and Man U fans happy the last few years with their respective troubles. Despite them they are still always in contention for something.


I feel that we are on a trajectory to get there and yes, we had a slip up perhaps in that journey by not improving the squad over the last year but we haven't regressed at all as a team, we are actually doing better than previous years so as a club we still appear to be moving in the right direction. Too slowly? That's a matter of opinion.
 

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So, no real answers to the patience conundrum. Handy that :D

Interesting that those who are being the biggest dicks about it show a complete lack of patience when anyone holding a contrary opinion rocks up.
While the team is making progress, the club should be shown some patience. If results stagnate or we go backwards then people can lob bombs.

It is rather tiresome when people behave as though the transfer market were an end in itself. This leads to the reasoning that no investment in new players = necessarily worrying/bad, even when results are (against all hysterical predictions) actually pretty good.

All arguments welcome and we should play the ball not the man.
 

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All arguments welcome and we should play the ball not the man.
That's a bit rich coming from you considering the dig you had earlier in the thread.
Perception of this seems pretty skewed so that those with a disposition towards building for tomorrow are more patient with the club and those who want instant gratification are less patient with the club. I see the latter as a character flaw.
:rolleyes:
 
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LeParisien

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That's a bit rich coming from you considering the dig you had earlier in the thread.

:rolleyes:
Quality rinse though

EDIT - joke. I do consider short termism a character flaw. It’s not that controversial. Of course he can disagree that his stance is a product of short termism or argue that the short term is very important in this case. If he doesn’t find some alternative then it doesn’t look great...
 
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Graysonti

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We are the only football club that don’t buy players ffs :mad::X3:

It’s not sustainable.

Levy, Poch - whoever is responsible- you are an idiot (s)
 

southlondonyiddo

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If any game summed up our lack of activity in the transfer market it was that one against the scum
 

southlondonyiddo

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Think it’s the week we’ve had, not the game, it’s bern coming for a while, super sissiko could only hold it back so long

Emery holding back his best players until the 2nd half and we end up with Rose playing CM when we should be pushing on to win that game but unfortunately (due to those transfer windows) we had nothing and offered nothing

Sad
 

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The team looks flogged and exhausted. there is no freshness, energy or creativity on show.. I think this squad is quickly coming towards the end of their life cycle.. Shame, but it is there for all to see.
 
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