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Tottenham Hotspur vs Newcastle United, Premier League match report - inspired substitution secures win as Spurs continue to suffer for Levy's decisions

Read the full article at By Matt Law, Daily Telegraph
 

UbeAstard

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I dont really see how that finger pointing works, in that case lets swap him for Mike Ashley.
 
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Tottenham Hotspur vs Newcastle United, Premier League match report - inspired substitution secures win as Spurs continue to suffer for Levy's decisions

Read the full article at By Matt Law, Daily Telegraph
I cannot disagree with the majority of this. The only thing I would argue with, not against, is that under Sherwood finishing 6th was actually a better position than had been expected the way we were heading under AVB. Levy is not a Spurs fan he is a power fan. I don't expect Poch to last too long, he will go before Levy stands down that's a certainty (in my opinion). I have never been a supporter to scream for a manager to be sacked, but Poch doesn't seem to be a strong enough manager to handle the egos of the Spurs players. Managers like Mourinho, Wenger, Van Gaal, Pep Guardiola etc would have blended the players we have into a team to be reckoned with by now, and they wouldn't have taken any of Levy's ****
 

SteveH

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poor piece by Matt Law. Surprised he didn't blame Levy for failing to prevent the spread of Ebola.
 

SteveH

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I cannot disagree with the majority of this. The only thing I would argue with, not against, is that under Sherwood finishing 6th was actually a better position than had been expected the way we were heading under AVB. Levy is not a Spurs fan he is a power fan. I don't expect Poch to last too long, he will go before Levy stands down that's a certainty (in my opinion). I have never been a supporter to scream for a manager to be sacked, but Poch doesn't seem to be a strong enough manager to handle the egos of the Spurs players. Managers like Mourinho, Wenger, Van Gaal, Pep Guardiola etc would have blended the players we have into a team to be reckoned with by now, and they wouldn't have taken any of Levy's ****

You dont know if there is any "Levy's ****". Other than the bloody obvious. like no we can't afford Falcao!
 

longtimespur

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As far as MrP is concerned it's about the mentality of the team. Something he's been saying for a while and has yet sorted out.

Levi maybe sanctioned the spending of the Bale money but did he actually pick the players? Whoever did certainly only thought about their skills and not their mental attitude.

We are as weak a team as I can remember in that department.

Perhaps MrP should employ a psychologist to work on the player's mind set because whatever anyone is doing atm isn't working.
 

shelfboy68

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Probably got most of the rubbish from Spurs forums like this.

I think some of the article is pointing to the truth you cant close your Eyes and be blind to some of the decisions and meddling that has gone on.
The team at the moment is poor they have not a clue how to defend nor put any decent moves together consistantly that is down to coaching or lack of.
But if We lose yet another manager then whose fault is that as We have gone through countless in his tenure.
 

npearl4spurs

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While true to some degree, my argument is that the team and coaches are more responsible than Levy.

On the pitch, we are desperately missing Kyle Walker, even Kyle Naughton. Our lack of consistently acceptable fullback play has been a huge thorn in our side these last two seasons. Last season, we had to play Vertonghen, our best CB, out of position and watch him sulk. This season, we are playing a very young, albeit talented, CB as a RB in Eric Dier. It is plain that the dangerous and talented teams in the PL have confidence in selecting their fullbacks - Chelsea, City, Southampton last year, even Everton in form.

Furthermore, the continued selection of Emmanuel Adebayor is baffling. He does not help this offense. Sure he has shown the skills throughout the years to be a great striker, and still shows those good things from time to time, but he has not cut it for us this year. Even with this, Roberto Soldado cannot get a run of games to save his career - and admittedly so. He cannot seem to score, even when presented with the best chances. But against City, in the preseason, and in many other games with our better players, he has shown a much better ability to link play with his passing, even if he isn't the one sending the ball into the back of the net. If we are going to persist with a lone striker, Kane needs to be starting. But when Walker returns to provide width, I would advocate a 4-1-2-1-2 (Lloris, Walker, Kaboul, Vertonghen, Rose, Capoue in front of the back four with some freedom, Eriksen and Mason paired together with a lot of freedom to "express themselves," Lamela in a higher AM role where he can make more runs for the throughballs and crosses of Eriksen and Mason, and Soldado and Kane as strike partners. Both have shown the ability to move all around the final third.

As far as MP goes, he needs to continue to instill this "mentality" we need to players to have...to concentrate and not lose their focus. These individual errors we have need to stop. We must have a consistent back four that plays together. Also, continuing to sub Lennon on is useless. I think it is plain to see he doesn't offer anything to us right now, and it doesn't seem he ever will again. I would rather bring in a Townsend (even with all his flaws) or even a Ceballos before I would ever sub Lennon on in a PL game. He was great for us before, but he isn't cutting it now.

As far as Levy goes, I would fault him for the his poor hires over the years, especially promoting Sherwood. He really stuck his foot in it with AVB, though, because once things soured, he was ****ed because he had to can him. Of course, no one was really available "on the cheap" except Sherwood, and that was horrible. So I think he has finally gotten things right with Pochettino.

But his must back him with quality players. We need to invest in at least 2 very good players to replace Paulinho and Lennon. Or pray that someone from the youth makes a step up.

tl;dr - we need to sit Adebayor and get one of the Kyle's healthy, but ultimately Kyle Walker. We need to figure out how to make Eriksen and Lamela special together and have a consistent back four. Pochettino needs to make better selections and instill a better mentality in the players. Levy needs to stop shopping in the bargain bin and dip into the quality for a couple of good players for this squad.
 

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I cannot disagree with the majority of this. The only thing I would argue with, not against, is that under Sherwood finishing 6th was actually a better position than had been expected the way we were heading under AVB. Levy is not a Spurs fan he is a power fan. I don't expect Poch to last too long, he will go before Levy stands down that's a certainty (in my opinion). I have never been a supporter to scream for a manager to be sacked, but Poch doesn't seem to be a strong enough manager to handle the egos of the Spurs players. Managers like Mourinho, Wenger, Van Gaal, Pep Guardiola etc would have blended the players we have into a team to be reckoned with by now, and they wouldn't have taken any of Levy's ****

By now? The guy has only been in the job for 11 matches?

LVG took over Man United; spent £150m (including buying one of the world's best players) and is STILL only two points clear of us.

How on earth you point the finger at Poch is beyond me.

Oh, and as for not taking any of Levy's ****: ask yourself why none of them would come to us in the first place?
 

ginola007

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Levi maybe sanctioned the spending of the Bale money but did he actually pick the players? Whoever did certainly only thought about their skills and not their mental attitude.

We are as weak a team as I can remember in that department.

Levy chose Poch, in part, I think, so that he could get the best out of our Spanish speaking players (Lamela and Soldado). It didn't work out, did it? Lamela and Soldado remained brilliant technical players who are completely unsuitable to the EPL.

Buying the wrong players is part of the game. Every club has been guilty in doing so. But never in my over 4 decades of following football have I seen so much money spent on so many unsuitable players in so short a time.
 

Shirtfront

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While true to some degree, my argument is that the team and coaches are more responsible than Levy.

On the pitch, we are desperately missing Kyle Walker, even Kyle Naughton. Our lack of consistently acceptable fullback play has been a huge thorn in our side these last two seasons. Last season, we had to play Vertonghen, our best CB, out of position and watch him sulk. This season, we are playing a very young, albeit talented, CB as a RB in Eric Dier. It is plain that the dangerous and talented teams in the PL have confidence in selecting their fullbacks - Chelsea, City, Southampton last year, even Everton in form.

Furthermore, the continued selection of Emmanuel Adebayor is baffling. He does not help this offense. Sure he has shown the skills throughout the years to be a great striker, and still shows those good things from time to time, but he has not cut it for us this year. Even with this, Roberto Soldado cannot get a run of games to save his career - and admittedly so. He cannot seem to score, even when presented with the best chances. But against City, in the preseason, and in many other games with our better players, he has shown a much better ability to link play with his passing, even if he isn't the one sending the ball into the back of the net. If we are going to persist with a lone striker, Kane needs to be starting. But when Walker returns to provide width, I would advocate a 4-1-2-1-2 (Lloris, Walker, Kaboul, Vertonghen, Rose, Capoue in front of the back four with some freedom, Eriksen and Mason paired together with a lot of freedom to "express themselves," Lamela in a higher AM role where he can make more runs for the throughballs and crosses of Eriksen and Mason, and Soldado and Kane as strike partners. Both have shown the ability to move all around the final third.

As far as MP goes, he needs to continue to instill this "mentality" we need to players to have...to concentrate and not lose their focus. These individual errors we have need to stop. We must have a consistent back four that plays together. Also, continuing to sub Lennon on is useless. I think it is plain to see he doesn't offer anything to us right now, and it doesn't seem he ever will again. I would rather bring in a Townsend (even with all his flaws) or even a Ceballos before I would ever sub Lennon on in a PL game. He was great for us before, but he isn't cutting it now.

As far as Levy goes, I would fault him for the his poor hires over the years, especially promoting Sherwood. He really stuck his foot in it with AVB, though, because once things soured, he was ****ed because he had to can him. Of course, no one was really available "on the cheap" except Sherwood, and that was horrible. So I think he has finally gotten things right with Pochettino.

But his must back him with quality players. We need to invest in at least 2 very good players to replace Paulinho and Lennon. Or pray that someone from the youth makes a step up.

tl;dr - we need to sit Adebayor and get one of the Kyle's healthy, but ultimately Kyle Walker. We need to figure out how to make Eriksen and Lamela special together and have a consistent back four. Pochettino needs to make better selections and instill a better mentality in the players. Levy needs to stop shopping in the bargain bin and dip into the quality for a couple of good players for this squad.

Coaches pick the team and the tactics; the Football Director picks the players; Levy picks them both. The chain of responsibility is obvious.

F£ck it - let's blame another coach. We are only running at one a season over the last decade. The law of averages alone dictates that one of them must be good soon.
 

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Levy chose Poch, in part, I think, so that he could get the best out of our Spanish speaking players (Lamela and Soldado). It didn't work out, did it? Lamela and Soldado remained brilliant technical players who are completely unsuitable to the EPL.

Buying the wrong players is part of the game. Every club has been guilty in doing so. But never in my over 4 decades of following football have I seen so much money spent on so many unsuitable players in so short a time.

It's not just the individual signings; it's the combination of the signings that is so unsuitable. The sum is far less than its parts.
 

Gaz_Gammon

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By now? The guy has only been in the job for 11 matches?

LVG took over Man United; spent £150m (including buying one of the world's best players) and is STILL only two points clear of us.

How on earth you point the finger at Poch is beyond me.

Oh, and as for not taking any of Levy's ****: ask yourself why none of them would come to us in the first place?


I think that Moyes was a point better off at this stage last season, anyway irrelevant to this conversation.

I would guess that we have spent close to the 150 million that Man Ure have over the past two seasons and as Matt has said in his article this team has actually regressed.

The pointy finger should be at the system. It's evidently not working and down to the players being incapable of playing it or the coach incapable of instilling it. It simply has to be one or the other and not both.

I would ask anyone this question who doubts the above (and do not advocate a change of manager!).

When Pulis went to Palace last January, did he use tactics and a system to suit the players to hand, or were the players just a misguided bunch under Holloway who could adapt easily to the system Pulis wanted to use?

I think that he used the players that he had and adopted a system to suit their strengths. I truly believe that after Sunday and twenty odd games in charge (pre-season / EL / PL and CC) that Poch is doing the opposite. Until he gets in the players that are suited to his system than we are doomed to failure.
 

AFred

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Our present manager and past few managers have had to deal with an unbalanced squad. Why? Our flawed transfer policy isn't it. Every transfer we make is made with a view of making a profit in the future. If a manger wants player A, most of the time we get him player B because it makes more financial sense. Even teams like Southampton manage to back their managers with player they want (Koeman with Tadic and Pelle). We on the otherhand appear to throw money at the wrong type of players with an aim of making profit out of their sales in the future.

Who is responsible for our transfer policy? Baldini people will say. Nope. Surely the directive must come down from Daniel Levy and the board of the club. Sadly Baldini / DOF just acts as a buffer for the board and Levy. When there is flak, its the manager first and DOF second who will get it.
 
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