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wallyjakeman

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Agree, always interesting. You could argue that it's wrong to draw conclusions based on a few minutes of film, but my first reaction after watching was the difference between how the two teams acted. Man City seems so much more pumped up and focused. Or am I reading too much into this?
 

CheeseGromit

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It is interesting to seee part of the game that when in the crowd you dont get to see

I am not sure I would read anything into what I saw. Approach will about a number of things which will include the managers approach and the home team will definately act differently to the away team. I thought the players looked focused
 

ajspurs

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Agree, always interesting. You could argue that it's wrong to draw conclusions based on a few minutes of film, but my first reaction after watching was the difference between how the two teams acted. Man City seems so much more pumped up and focused. Or am I reading too much into this?

I was thinking that they were maybe a little more vocal in the tunnel, Joe Hart in particular who is a lot of the time when in the tunnel and we just seemed to simply walk out. I was thinking if that was me I'd be like 'COME ON LADS LETS WIN THIS!' or whatever... but then I thought they may save all of that in the team huddle they do just prior to kick off?

We could have been 20-0 down and I think Adebayor still would have been happy as fuck laughing with Yaya Toure :D It does make you wonder when you see stuff like, as a fan I think if that was me and we got thrashed the last thing I'd be doing is smiling so I always like seeing the players pissed off after a loss, but then I think maybe most footballers are like that? It's why I admire Kyle Walker in a way because he seems to act as I would a lot of the time.
 

CheeseGromit

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Need a couple of Joe Hart types, real positive attitude in the tunnel!

Just as a question but why ?

It is not the shouting pumped way that brings result it is the determination and that can be demonstrated either in a noisy way or a quiet steely way Neither is wrong. Every player will have their own way of preparing Being vocal is usually a sign of re;lease of nervous energy

I remember and England manager saying he did not want the players to sing the national anthem and become emotionally involved he wanted them to concentrate and focus individually on the game
 

HotspurFC1950

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I was involved with a very big game last year. My players came out of the changing room noisy and pumped up.

The opposition were waiting for us and when they saw and heard my boys they looked scared.

We turned them over big time.
 

shelfboy68

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I was thinking that they were maybe a little more vocal in the tunnel, Joe Hart in particular who is a lot of the time when in the tunnel and we just seemed to simply walk out. I was thinking if that was me I'd be like 'COME ON LADS LETS WIN THIS!' or whatever... but then I thought they may save all of that in the team huddle they do just prior to kick off?

We could have been 20-0 down and I think Adebayor still would have been happy as fuck laughing with Yaya Toure :D It does make you wonder when you see stuff like, as a fan I think if that was me and we got thrashed the last thing I'd be doing is smiling so I always like seeing the players pissed off after a loss, but then I think maybe most footballers are like that? It's why I admire Kyle Walker in a way because he seems to act as I would a lot of the time.

Its a good point because we probably could do with 1/2 Roy keane type players huge desire to win and warrior mentality.
We dont need to ask him the question of would he be proud of a 4-1 defeat or try to find any positivity in one he was a Winner and as such results like that he cant ever except, we could do with some like this.
 

Shanks

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I was involved with a very big game last year. My players came out of the changing room noisy and pumped up.

The opposition were waiting for us and when they saw and heard my boys they looked scared.

We turned them over big time.

This to be honest. We do it all the time in our team as well, standard for every game, let them know they don't scare us, and usually gives you the upper hand before you start the game.
 

teok

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The psychological aspect of football is a major ingredient. Absolutely major the higher you go.

Off topic slightly but pre fight stare downs are really interesting also.

http://www.scientificamerican.com/article/smile-you-are-about-to-lose/

Also my favourite stare down guy is/was fedor:


"The best when it comes to the staredown is Fedor Emelianenko. Watch him: he does not make eye contact and his entire expression is extremely relaxed - you would think he is about to perform a ballet or something.

"But here is the crucial thing. When the referee tells them to head back to their corners, Fedor suddenly darts a short look directly at his opponent - or through his opponent, I should say.

"This kind of look is associated with antisocial behavioural disorders and psychopaths. They don't look at you, they look through you. It's emotionless, it goes deeper than skin level.

"You will get a lot of fighters who will catch that look and suddenly realise they don't want to be there.

"Wanderlei Silva has a stare-down that makes you think 'this is gonna hurt', but Fedor's makes you think 's---, I might die'."
 

Romulus

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I was involved with a very big game last year. My players came out of the changing room noisy and pumped up.

The opposition were waiting for us and when they saw and heard my boys they looked scared.

We turned them over big time.

who brought the bibs?

these are professional international players. they wont be scared of a little noise in the tunnel
 

teok

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Once a team gets to a certain status it can have a massive psychological impact. There is that famous roy keane quote about the match being over in the tunnel at old trafford.

Certain teams will just turn up and expect to lose. That was what was so crazy about the post fergie utd last season. Lower div sides actually came and attacked them.

Not saying that happened yesterday at all though, just a general point.
 

SugarRay

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Pre-fight smiles mean very little. Boxers rarely face someone of the same standard as themselves. genuine 50-50 fights are few and far between. Mayweather and Pacquiao have both smiled in stare downs pre-fight.

A lot of people claim Tyson beat his victims before the first bell rung. Nope. He beat his victims because they were overmatched, massively in some cases. Holyfield was laughing, smiling and singing before he fought Tyson. The staredown is really for the tv audience.
 

ajspurs

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Its a good point because we probably could do with 1/2 Roy keane type players huge desire to win and warrior mentality.
We dont need to ask him the question of would he be proud of a 4-1 defeat or try to find any positivity in one he was a Winner and as such results like that he cant ever except, we could do with some like this.

Without a doubt, and even dare I say it a John Terry type character too. You kind of get the impression that with Roy Keane/Joh Terry, as very vocal, well respected and assertive captains they almost don't/didn't allow the team to lack any required effort.
 

WalkerboyUK

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I was thinking that they were maybe a little more vocal in the tunnel, Joe Hart in particular who is a lot of the time when in the tunnel and we just seemed to simply walk out. I was thinking if that was me I'd be like 'COME ON LADS LETS WIN THIS!' or whatever... but then I thought they may save all of that in the team huddle they do just prior to kick off?

We could have been 20-0 down and I think Adebayor still would have been happy as fuck laughing with Yaya Toure :D It does make you wonder when you see stuff like, as a fan I think if that was me and we got thrashed the last thing I'd be doing is smiling so I always like seeing the players pissed off after a loss, but then I think maybe most footballers are like that? It's why I admire Kyle Walker in a way because he seems to act as I would a lot of the time.

I was the worst person to be around when my team lost games, even if it was by a single goal. And that was just in a shitty Saturday park league. Mind you, when we lost it tended to be thanks to a mistake by me! I didn't want to have anything to do with my team-mates after a game if we had lost. I wouldn't go to the pub afterwards, I wouldn't go out with them in the evening... I'd lock myself away, sulk about it, get it out of my system and by Monday I was ready to go again.

I know it's their job, but I fail to understand how any player can come off a pitch smiling when they've been beaten so soundly.
 

shelfboy68

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Without a doubt, and even dare I say it a John Terry type character too. You kind of get the impression that with Roy Keane/Joh Terry, as very vocal, well respected and assertive captains they almost don't/didn't allow the team to lack any required effort.

Absolutley spot on we dont have enough nasty barstards in the team people who wont except less than 100%.
 

HotspurFC1950

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who brought the bibs?

these are professional international players. they wont be scared of a little noise in the tunnel


They are human same as any other player of any standard. And we aren't talking a little noise. That is your connotation.
 
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