Manchester City to Offer Tottenham a Discounted Fee For Adebayor: Bloomberg

[OmarsComing]

The transfer fee on a player his age is much less relevant than his wages.

A transfer fee is an investment, wages are pure expenditure.

Think of it like a house.

Transfer fee = buying. If you can afford it you'd invest £1m on a new house as long as you thought it would increase or at least retain its value.

In fact the equation is the same if you spend £100k on a house or £100m, you do it if you think the investment works, but if for a moment you think the price is going to fall then you don't.

Wages = rent. You subtract your rent from your income and the equation is can I afford the rent and everything else I need because you know that at the end of the day whatever you spend is not coming back.

Weirdly the media and everyone else tend to focus on headline transfer fees (presumably because they're published and the large lump sum... er... grabs the headlines) but you can't know the true cost until the player moves on from the club.

Wages on the other hand make up a minimum of 80% of what a club spends on players. That's a massive majority of the cash a club spends on a player going on wages.

All of which is typically long-winded way for me to say that the transfer fee is almost irrelevant, it's all about the wages. And at £25m over five years (£25m you'll never get back) Ade is unaffordable.

omg your worse post ever.

£170k a week for 5 years is about £44m!!

obviously we wont be giving him £170k per week, £100k per week max.

Adebayor is a no brainer slam dunk purchase imo

 

[kishman]

£170k a week for 5 years is about £44m!!

It's crazy to think, the amount City are paying in wages for Aguero, Dzeko, Balotelli, Silva, Nasri, Milner, Barry, Mancini, Yaya and Kolo Toure over 5 years is probably the same amount we would spend on the NDP.

 

[Mr Pink]

Jesus watching Blue Moon rising on ITV4 right now, Ade's run!

 

[Luka Van der Bale]

Jesus watching Blue Moon rising on ITV4 right now, Ade's run!

Damn I've missed the first half an hour. Been much Ade in it?

 

[sloth]

omg your worse post ever.

I've a feeling there's been a few of those lately.

Anyway, to make it clear, I'd love to sign Ade and perhaps £100k a week (which is what I assumed in my post) is not unaffordable, just to say, mainly to people who say £10m is fine, that you can't judge a players cost by looking at his transfer fee alone, but by estimating the sell-on and including the wages.

Which in the case of Ade makes him expensive in a way that merely looking at his transfer fee would appear to make him not!

 

[Mr Pink]

Damn I've missed the first half an hour. Been much Ade in it?

he's featured in the games quite a bit!

just showed our 3-0 trouncing of them before Hughes got sacked....

 

[tony_parkes]

Well putting £4 million of the reduced transfer fee back into his wages is approximately another £20,000 a week to Ade over a 4 year contract.

We can probably get him to around £100k a week basic with a bit more for appearnace fee, win / goal bonus.

He's still going to take a big hit though, if as reported he earns over £150k a week. Hopefully he's enjoying his football, likes being loved, wants to play for Harry and perhaps most importantly believes we are able to compete at the top end of the league.

I think we have a chance but it's going to take a big commitment from the player and Levy to make it happen. I hope it can be done.

Don't rule out City giving him a few quid as a sweetner, to make the deal happen if they really want rid that bad.

 

[Luka Van der Bale]

he's featured in the games quite a bit!

just showed our 3-0 trouncing of them before Hughes got sacked....

Yeah I remember he started off very well there. Scored in his first 5 or something?

 

[Twizzle]

didnt think the FFP worried Citeh too much

I like seeing them worried

 

[MattyP]

I'd also imagine that Ade would want some sort of assurances about the managerial situation before he would even contemplate signing.

All well and good asking him to sign at a significantly reduced wage for a manager that believes in him, it may be possible.

Asking him to sign at a significantly reduced wage for a manager that may not be around that much longer would be a more difficult sell.

 

[stevespurs]

Offer him 85K a week plus 50k per goal. At the rate he's scoring recently we'd be ok.

I just get the feeling he'd score two every week at that price!

 

[tooey]

Okay so say we pick him up for 10m... I would say he is a 17-20m player to be honest.
So why not offer him a contract still within our bracket, and just hand him a 5m signing on fee....

 

[rawhide]

Okay so say we pick him up for 10m... I would say he is a 17-20m player to be honest.
So why not offer him a contract still within our bracket, and just hand him a 5m signing on fee....

Because he would be taking a cut of £5m per year at the figures being talked about on this thread. We also have the danger of him kicking off and wanting another move shortly into the reduced contract, taking his bonus with him.

 

[MattyP]

Okay so say we pick him up for 10m... I would say he is a 17-20m player to be honest.
So why not offer him a contract still within our bracket, and just hand him a 5m signing on fee....

Give him a £5m signing on bonus? Fuck that.

Why not give him a smaller signing on fee, bonuses based on appearances, goals scored bonuses, assist bonuses (so he's encouraged to pass to a better placed team mate rather than take on ridiculous chances in an attempt to get more money), bonuses based on league positions, trophies delivered.

At least we stand a better chance of getting value for our money.

 

[tooey]

Because he would be taking a cut of £5m per year at the figures being talked about on this thread. We also have the danger of him kicking off and wanting another move shortly into the reduced contract, taking his bonus with him.

Hmmm, perhaps I should have actually read the thread....A lesson learnt.

 

[ballyconnellyid]

Apparently he donates some of his wages every week to the Togo goalkeeper that was shot in the bus shooting.

Great signing IMO. hasn't scored in the last couple of games but his movement and link up play have been excellent and led to goals for rafa etc.

Sign him up and swap Pav for Doumbia. great jan business

 

[tooey]

Give him a £5m signing on bonus? Fuck that.

Why not give him a smaller signing on fee, bonuses based on appearances, goals scored bonuses, assist bonuses (so he's encouraged to pass to a better placed team mate rather than take on ridiculous chances in an attempt to get more money), bonuses based on league positions, trophies delivered.

At least we stand a better chance of getting value for our money.

As a side note, It sickens me how the likes of Man City have inflated the market.

It really comes down to Ades priortys. He must realise that unless he wants to rot in the reserves at Man City he's going to have to take a pretty extreme pay cut. Bonus payments and the like would be the route to go down, though in my opinion a player should perform at his highest possible level regardless of what he has to gain financially (though I suppose that jus' aint the world of football). Id be interested to see the length of contract he'd be offered by dan the man.

 

[Luka Van der Bale]

he's featured in the games quite a bit!

just showed our 3-0 trouncing of them before Hughes got sacked....

Big buildup to the end of season clash between City and Spurs. Loving it!

 

[Abdoujaparov]

didnt think the FFP worried Citeh too much

I like seeing them worried

Yeah, I think the story is BS. £4m isn't going to make a blind bit of difference when they posted an operating loss of £121m last year and are expected in the next few days to post a much bigger loss than that.

I think clubs are given 45m euros leeway over two years at the start of financial fair play (i.e. starting now with the first calculation due in 2013-14), but there's no chance they'll make that.

Looks like they're gambling on the ability of their lawyers and the ineptitude of UEFA's. And some of the rules haven't been ironed out yet.

 

[danielneeds]

If Ade wants his Citeh wages matched then the Russian club Anzhi are his only option. If we can put together something competitive I am sure he will want to stay.