Player Watch: Marcus Edwards

[danielneeds]

Have to agree with @Trix sentiments.

Seems far too many are prepared to make excuses or ignore his behaviour because he has a bit of talent.

Sorry, knuckle down, try and do all that is asked of you, maybe do more if you want it enough.

Whilst not sure about the recent comments suggesting his dad was constantly turning up at training and arguing, I would suggest that surely his dad would have. or should have certainly spoke to him about timekeeping.

Whilst not privvy you'd think Norwich would've mentioned it if it's reported in the press. ( yep...I know they ate often far from the trith. Gut instinct says not this time)

Shame to see such potential great talent go to waste.

It's not making excuses - I just think too many people here just have unrealistic expectations of him, and talented kids in general. With any wonderkid making waves in our academy I generally subscribe to the view that their chances of making it to the first team are around 5%, maybe with someone of Edwards talent, I'd have put it at 10% but nothing higher. History probably tells us that that's generous too.

 

[cider spurs]

It's not making excuses - I just think too many people here just have unrealistic expectations of him, and talented kids in general. With any wonderkid making waves in our academy I generally subscribe to the view that their chances of making it to the first team are around 5%, maybe with someone of Edwards talent, I'd have put it at 10% but nothing higher. History probably tells us that that's generous too.

Agreed...very few make the grade. Edwards maybe has a greater chance as a result of his ability.

On that basis then...if so few make it, why would you reduce your chances further through poor timekeeping.

Maybe the odd time late, but you want a career in what is already a very hard profession to succeed in and you're late every time.

Nah...that's just bollocks. As far as I'm aware the average 19 year old can tell the time.

 

[George94]

Was fully onboard the Marcus Edwards hype train...

But it's time to cash in. Get as much for him as possible with a big sell on clause.

 

[Coyboy]

This issue should really put to bed or at least temper the argument from people who heavily criticise Poch for not playing the likes of Edwards. We don't know anything about these players' characters or conduct and if he can't even be bothered to respect his talent enough to turn up to training on time then he needs to get his act together. I am not sure how you can coach punctuality and respect.

 

[southlondonyiddo]

I think there is pretty much no doubt that if god had given Edwards the same mentality and work ethic of a Keegan/Beckham/Lampard/Kane then this lad would become a very special player

Unfortunately unless the penny drops very soon his story will be yet another of what could have been

 

[nicdic]

This issue should really put to bed or at least temper the argument from people who heavily criticise Poch for not playing the likes of Edwards. We don't know anything about these players' characters or conduct and if he can't even be bothered to respect his talent enough to turn up to training on time then he needs to get his act together. I am not sure how you can coach punctuality and respect.

This would be true if he'd been late only a handful of times, to be late to every single session is ridiculous. Staggering lack of respect.

 

[wirE]

A quote from Pochettino regarding why Edwards is not on the verge of breaking into the first team "Pochettino recently acknowledged Edwards' "behavourial issues and problems with authority" in his book and it's clear that no player will ever get promoted into his first team if he doesn't work hard for his team-mates, however talented he is. "

https://www.football.london/tottenh...rcus-edwards-truth-behind-pochettino-13999084

We've seen this problem with so many talents being regarded as highly talented and when it all comes down, it's their attitude towards the game that is the problem. Remember Taarabt being highly regarded and compared to Zidane. Wizard one on one, but the lack of determination, work rate and attitude pretty much destroyed his promising career.

I think that Poch spoke too soon comparing Edwards to Messi. Imo a lot of talents gets compared to great players early on and thinks that they're able to surf through their career being "highly regarded" and do no effort for the rest of team.

 

[diamond lights]

A quote from Pochettino regarding why Edwards is not on the verge of breaking into the first team "Pochettino recently acknowledged Edwards' "behavourial issues and problems with authority" in his book and it's clear that no player will ever get promoted into his first team if he doesn't work hard for his team-mates, however talented he is. "

https://www.football.london/tottenh...rcus-edwards-truth-behind-pochettino-13999084

We've seen this problem with so many talents being regarded as highly talented and when it all comes down, it's their attitude towards the game that is the problem. Remember Taarabt being highly regarded and compared to Zidane. Wizard one on one, but the lack of determination, work rate and attitude pretty much destroyed his promising career.

I think that Poch spoke too soon comparing Edwards to Messi. Imo a lot of talents gets compared to great players early on and thinks that they're able to surf through their career being "highly regarded" and do no effort for the rest of team.

This may have been an attempt at managing him. His attitude problems had already been spotted and laying down the law wasn't working so as an alternative very public praise may get him to feel supported and want to live up to the boss's expectations.

Who knows? but IMO Poch is top class at man management and could have been trying a few different approaches. In his book he says a lot but rarely too much about individuals. He does however clearly mention Edwards' attitude and behavioural problems so methinks the kid is nearing last chance saloon.

 

[mark87]

Dude needs to pull his finger out, he won't get anywhere if he continues to act like this.

He needs to realise that he has a gift, a talent that every single person on this forum would kill for and if the rumours about his attitude are true then he is going to completely ruin an amazing opportunity that he has in his grasp.

Work hard, listen to your coaches and you can achieve big things with the talent he has, but at the moment he is wasting it.

 

[Frozen_Waffles]

It sounds as if he is just shy to me, if he is turning up late all the time then he is probably nervous pre training to talk to his teammates.

All this bullshit about kicking him out and farkes comments are not going to help.

I think people need to calm down. Most footballers are wankers in some way, being shy is not a huge problem.

I remember terry Dixon, he was a complete nutsack, violent, swearing and generally someone who you would avoid.

I would rather us spend time on Edwards.

 

[Trix]

I think one issue with Edwards is he has never had to put anything extra in at youth levels. Even with minimum effort he has still been stand out. He's now at an age though where he's competing with hardworking players of all ages, most of which have had to put the graft in and have masses of experience on top. Neither players or managers at senior level will put up a player not doing their share of hard work no matter how much ability they have.

 

[GMI]

He will probably have to start thinking of getting a job soon

We've got a vacancy at the moment. Anyone know what he's like on Environmental Science?

 

[Hakkz]

People thinking that shyness is the problem in all this

 

[longtimespur]

Just such an absolute shame to waste soo much talent.
Feel genuinely sorry for him in that he can't understand the likely outcome..

 

[DJS]

Was fully onboard the Marcus Edwards hype train...

But it's time to cash in. Get as much for him as possible with a big sell on clause.

LOL

 

[spursfan77]

I have little sympathy with him. Think of all the kids his age and younger who’d kill to be in his position. It’s not fair on them and especially those at the club if he’s given any special treatment, no matter how talented he is. From what we know of Poch and McDermott I can’t imagine they’d think much different than this either.

 

[diamond lights]

It sounds as if he is just shy to me, if he is turning up late all the time then he is probably nervous pre training to talk to his teammates.

All this bullshit about kicking him out and farkes comments are not going to help.

I think people need to calm down. Most footballers are wankers in some way, being shy is not a huge problem.

I remember terry Dixon, he was a complete nutsack, violent, swearing and generally someone who you would avoid.

I would rather us spend time on Edwards.

You sound like a rugby fan with that comment. We have many players that seem to be fine human beings - Hugo , Verts, Dier, Davies, Eriksen, Dembele, Wanyama and Harry to name just some that have given strong evidence of being decent people.

This is more than shyness - Michael Carrick was/is very shy but it doesn't stop him being respectful and hard working.

Shyness is fine and even an endearing quality in many but it is insulting to others to use it as an excuse to turn up late to all training sessions and meetings.

 

[matjcole]

Since we're on the topic of wasted Youth, some of you might like this:



I asked the author which Spurs players he had spoke to and apparently one of them is John Bostock. Might be an interesting read.

 

[UncleFool]

Has been banned from Tottenham for 10 days

Unbelievable behaviour

Sad really. Sounds like his dads a right prick which doesn’t help the lad!

In situations like these, and indeed life in general, it is always important to set attainable goals. Based upon Matt Law's comments, and those of other more informed posters, I would say that Marcus will be able to achieve staying away from the club for ten days. This could be the making of him and the start of a bright future!

 

[Chris Flynn]

Says who? Ravel Morison had a history of getting involved with violence and thuggery. All I’ve heard about Edwards is that he’s a teenager who’s late a lot, much like myself when I used to sleep in and miss morning lectures at university.

Yeah but he's not at university. I was working for min wage at 18 and would have got sacked for turning up late every day. And my job wasnt fun