The final part of Ariebombarie's translation of the Martin Jol interview from Voetbal International. Obviously read parts one and two below first as there is a flow between the three parts.
What have you learned as a coach?
Keeping more players happy (laughs). How? That is the secret of the cook.
National coach Van Basten said recently ‘A coach can never be 100% straight’
‘I think he meant; if you really want to stay authentic, you should not become a coach. But I do want to stay authentic. And that is difficult. They often say “you have to approach this way and another that way’. That is not authentic. Coaching and managing should fit you. If you are a full of paradoxes, it is well possible to be nice and very strict. If that is what you are it does not matter. But if you are only nice and never strict you have a problem. Than you are not perceived authentic when you have to be strict. But it is my luck that all fits me. Why is somebody a born pilot? Or a born manager? If it fits them.
A coach of Real Madrid, Barcelona of Chelsea needs very different qualities than a coach of RKC Waalwijk.
‘Of course, you are much more manager. Maybe that is also the reason why Rijkaard had such a difficult time at Sparta and wins the CL with Barcelona. It demands different qualities.
In Holland the coach has to guard team discipline and the principle of equality.
‘It is about principles. And my principles as a human being are the same as the coach Martin Jol. I treat everybody equal. But that is something different that approaching everybody the same. Over here there are so many other issues. “You play the way you train,” they always say in Holland. That is the biggest bullshit if you have to play that many games. If you would do that within two minutes: “Are you nuts? We have that many games and than you are going to kick on the training?” No kicking, we say here. I can work a lot less tactical on the field here than at RKC so you have to find other ways.
You have to be trainer and manager at the same time. That has to be in somebody.
‘It is about; how close do you stay to yourself in everything you do? Does it fit you? It is about quality, your background. You can be such a good manager and be so full of yourself, but if you come somewhere where they don’t understand you, you will fail. Everything is about motivation, connecting people to you. You have to have that skill/quality. And that is something I am satisfied about. I am now 3 years abroad and that is a lot more demanding than working in Holland. Because also abroad you have to connect people to you even though it is another culture and language. If Co Adriaanse at FC Porto wins the cup and the league, than that is very impressive. It would have been more impressive had he done it with Boavista of course, but he does it in a far country. And that is certainly not easy.
The quality to connect people to you, is that a trick?
‘It has to be in you. Every group knows that if you do your speech before the match, you want to motivate them. That is of course a bad position. 5 out of 10 don’t even do it at the highest level. That is possible if you have the skill to let others do it. As an experienced player that was like that at FC Den Haag (ADO). Coach Rob Baan never had to say anything, because Heini Otto and me did that. I remember well that in my first game he started to shout at me and I told him to sit down. And he did.
Than you have lost it as a coach.
Not at all, he was just smart. He put himself at the background, because he thought: I need him. And we became unbeaten champion. So Rob Baan did a good job.
Did you became what you wanted?
I don’t know how to explain. With my talent I could have done more. I did not make it at Bayern, because I wanted to stay with my family in The Hague and Scheveningen. Maybe I was too young, but that is also relative. I was ambitious, could play good football, but I did not want to stay. Manager Uli Hoeness told me that everybody had a tough time in their first year and offered me a new two-year contract, but I wanted back to Den Haag. I believe Aad de Mos and Dick Advocaat had the same. We work over the whole world but The Hague is always our city. Very strange and conflicting. Of the 35 years that I work at least half I have not been able to be where I want: Den Haag. And if I look back, I think my time at Scheveningen was the best time. In the daytime do what you want; live two minutes of the training’s field and in the evening sit in the clubhouse. And having success in your own village.
Does that feeling come back when you are in The Hague?
<!--coloro:blue-->No, but you learn that later. If you are back, you see the limitations. Because everybody has their own jobs and sorrows and you think: “lets get back to England”. I haven’t been in Holland for 6 months. 30 years ago I would have been miserable. Footballers always say: If I am done playing I am going to do what I want.” But I am now 51 and I am still going on! So maybe this is just way too much fun. It is about taking your vacations in time. In fact I am exactly where I wanted to be. In 2000 Wilfried de Jong interviewed me on the beach of Scheveningen and he asked me about my ambitions. <!--/coloro-->And I pointed over the sea and said, 'that is where I want to coach. Once upon a time I want to coach my favourite club: Tottenham Hotspur.' <!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->Unbelievable it all came out.
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