Matthijs de Ligt

[George94]

Supporters just like new shiny signings. We have a very promising Argentinian U21 CB and I'd like for us to give him a good chance but like with all things If Poch feels we need to buy then fine.

I'd love also for Onomah and Winks to be given a real chance.

I agree to an extent - but we definitely need to strengthen with some top draw players this summer if we have any ambition to push on, IMO. Looks like we're going to sell around 6 players - need to replace at least 3 of them.

 

[spursfan77]

Yes. It would be stupid.

But you wouldn’t put it past us to let it happen.

 

[Spursh]

Who said Poch wants 3 CBs every game? He's favoured 4231 for most of this season. 3-5-2 creates more problems up the field too with the amount of attacking players we have on our books. We will not keep all of Son, Alli, Eriksen, Moura and Lamela happy playing with only 2 Ams imo. That's not including other players we could sign this window such as Martial. Davies has played in a back three for Wales and on the left of the three would be a viable option should Poch look to use that in the odd game if required.

The needs of the team have to come before any one individual for me. It's all very well Dier wanting to play CM, but he isn't good enough there and he's a far better centre back in my opinion. I think with Toby leaving it's a fantastic opportunity to give him some real responsibility at the back. On top of that he's got some good domestic and European experience under his belt, something that's needed at CB. This would also allow us room and extra funds to bring in a more progressive midfield player that most of us think we need.

If we were to get De Ligt and use Dier as a midfield player, then I think there's a glaring lack of experience too. If Vertonghen was injured, then Sanchez, Foyth and De Ligt would be very inexperienced especially for those big CL games. Who's going to lead? This is another reason why i'd favour Dier being moved back. I really don't think it's as crazy as it might sound.

To a tee

 

[dontcallme]

Can anyone truly tell me that if we sold Toby and failed to bring in de Ligt or for that matter any other CB then it would be a complete disaster?

Sanchez, Vertonghen and Dier are high quality centre backs and Foyth is very promising.

May I ask some people this. How good would Foyth look if he played every game for Ajax last season? How much would he be worth?

For the kind of fee being mooted, it's still a big risk for a position where the need is not that great. If anything, all we need is a bit of experienced back up, if that.

Think it depends on the plan for Dier.

Poch in the past said his future is at centre back.

Vertonghen, Sanchez, Dier and Foyth wouldn’t be a bad set of centre backs.

Only reason I am interested in De Ligt is how highly many rate him.

 

[rossdapep]

Whilst the manager has negotiated ALL his staff’s new contract, and his all verbally agreed. And was expected to be announced more sooner rather than later.

There is a reason for that, called Daniel honouring his words with the players he believes he can sign now, and they are not even in the WC. If he signs, then you should feel very confident in our chairman. Eriksen and others will not sign until the manager firs. And ifthey sign you know why.

We can talk as much as we want about players and manager bring under contract until the cows come home.I have shared my inside information with the bosses. I will stand behind what I have just printed.

Telling it as it is ?

This is something that I was thinking. It makes sense for Daniel to live up to his end of the bargain first, prove that he is serious and assure Poch that things are moving the right way. Poch is smart if he has asked for this fulfilment first.

hopefully we can get a couple of major ones done relatively early so that Poch believes that he is being backed entirely.

 

[WiganSpur]

Think it depends on the plan for Dier.

Poch in the past said his future is at centre back.

Vertonghen, Sanchez, Dier and Foyth wouldn’t be a bad set of centre backs.

Only reason I am interested in De Ligt is how highly many rate him.

I have no question regarding his talent, just our need to drop £50m on him at this moment. If we don't get him, there will always be great young centre backs out there in future for us to sign when we need them.

 

[dontcallme]

I have no question regarding his talent, just our need to drop £50m on him at this moment. If we don't get him, there will always be great young centre backs out there in future for us to sign when we need them.

Man City have spent a lot of money on a lot of dud centre backs.

Getting quality is sometimes about timing as much as money.

If De Ligt is as good as people say and attainable then we should go for it.

 

[dtxspurs]

I have no question regarding his talent, just our need to drop £50m on him at this moment. If we don't get him, there will always be great young centre backs out there in future for us to sign when we need them.

Hopefully by the time Jan is done De Ligt will have fully integrated into the team and the league and seamlessly take over the spot. Then we just have to keep Sanchez and De Ligt together for 10 years and we can win some titles.

 

[JUSTINSIGNAL]

Supporters just like new shiny signings. We have a very promising Argentinian U21 CB and I'd like for us to give him a good chance but like with all things If Poch feels we need to buy then fine.

I'd love also for Onomah and Winks to be given a real chance.

Agree.

Supporters just want signings and will justify it any way they can even if it seems illogical to the rest of us.

I’m in the same camp that doesn’t see the sense on spunking money on first team CB when we have two of the best in the league already, a very promising back up and a player in Dier who was originally signed to play there. Seems weird to prioritise that position.

And no I don’t think we will play three at the back.

 

[dontcallme]

Agree.

Supporters just want signings and will justify it any way they can even if it seems illogical to the rest of us.

I’m in the same camp that doesn’t see the sense on spunking money on first team CB when we have two of the best in the league already, a very promising back up and a player in Dier who was originally signed to play there. Seems weird to prioritise that position.

And no I don’t think we will play three at the back.

Thing is, it doesn't seem we are prioritising this position at all.

We are getting linked with De Ligt because he is reportedly extremely good and available.

If we don't attempt to buy top talent when it is available we'll never progress.

 

[KlinsmansCoughMixture]

Calling it now, if LFC win the CL, he ends up at Anfield next season partnering VVD.

 

[Lilbaz]

We might not just stay to one formation. Ee might play one game 3 at the back snd the next 2 cb's.

 

[dtxspurs]

We might not just stay to one formation. Ee might play one game 3 at the back snd the next 2 cb's.

What a concept!!

 

[JUSTINSIGNAL]

Thing is, it doesn't seem we are prioritising this position at all.

We are getting linked with De Ligt because he is reportedly extremely good and available.

If we don't attempt to buy top talent when it is available we'll never progress.

We're not Man City though. We can't just stock pile top talent when we have limited resources. It would make far more sense to concentrate our efforts on more pressing areas in the team such as central mid.

Non of us know Poch's master plan but i just find it odd we are willing to blow that much money on a pretty well stocked position.

 

[dontcallme]

We're not Man City though. We can't just stock pile top talent when we have limited resources. It would make far more sense to concentrate our efforts on more pressing areas in the team such as central mid.

Non of us know Poch's master plan but i just find it odd we are willing to blow that much money on a pretty well stocked position.

We have a high quality squad. Improving any area is not going to be that easy.

Real life isn’t like a computer game. We can’t simply go out and buy a high quality left back, right back, centre mid and Kane backup.

We have to play the market and look for the right quality when available.

Itk suggests we have made money to spend. Buying De Ligt won’t mean we can’t buy a centre mid.

Imagine if we hadn’t bought Berbatov, Modric, Bale or Eriksen because we had other pressing concerns at the same time.

 

[Spurrific]

Calling it now, if LFC win the CL, he ends up at Anfield next season partnering VVD.

Why would you be smiling about that?

 

[WiganSpur]

Thing is, it doesn't seem we are prioritising this position at all.

We are getting linked with De Ligt because he is reportedly extremely good and available.

If we don't attempt to buy top talent when it is available we'll never progress.

You see i'm not sure I believe this. There will be plenty of de Ligt's around when we really need to buy one. I'm not saying he's not got a lot of potential but when the time comes when we really need a CB there will always be a lot of good ones to choose from. If he goes elsewhere, then so be it and good luck to him. It won't be the end of the world as far as we're concerned.

 

[dontcallme]

You see i'm not sure I believe this. There will be plenty of de Ligt's around when we really need to buy one. I'm not saying he's not got a lot of potential but when the time comes when we really need a CB there will always be a lot of good ones to choose from. If he goes elsewhere, then so be it and good luck to him. It won't be the end of the world as far as we're concerned.

Not the end of the world of course. But Utd, City, Liverpool and Chelsea always spend big. How many of those players fail? A lot.

There is more to buying quality than simply spending money. We have seen that ourselves.

If, and it's a big if, De Ligt is as good as people say then we need to try to make it happen.

Imagine if we thought another Berbatov, Modric, Bale and Eriksen would simply be available the next summer. It just doesn't work like that.

 

[Lilbaz]

You see i'm not sure I believe this. There will be plenty of de Ligt's around when we really need to buy one. I'm not saying he's not got a lot of potential but when the time comes when we really need a CB there will always be a lot of good ones to choose from. If he goes elsewhere, then so be it and good luck to him. It won't be the end of the world as far as we're concerned.

Have to agree. For every ferdinand there was a ledley. It is not a position that you certify with talent at that age.
He is good. But it's not a messi or brazilian ronaldo call.

 

[WiganSpur]

Have to agree. For every ferdinand there was a ledley. It is not a position that you certify with talent at that age.
He is good. But it's not a messi or brazilian ronaldo call.

Yep. Not exactly a knockdown price that we can't turn down either.