Mauricio Pochettino accuses Tottenham players of showing lack of passion

[Dennism]

Don't turn your anger on to the most successful manager Spurs have had since Nicholson.
Even if, as it seems to be fashionable on this site.......you see, you say nothing original and just prove you are a follower with not much to say about anything.

Did you miss the Keith Burkinshaw era? A manger greater than a thousand Harry Redknapps and a man worth a million Harry Redknapps.

 

[Acid]

Exactly. He had a "well wtf are you guys playing at???" look on his face.

He's on a learning curve with the scope of these players and their inconsistency.

And he can't fix our problems until he actually sees what's at the heart of them and yesterday he got a clear display of the shit mentality that has plagued this team for so long.

He's got a season to sort them out or ship 'em out.

Totally unacceptable display - half-arsed and half-hearted. From his point of view, seen as though it's new to him, he's got to 'nip it in the bud' right now!

I love your posts ThinkTank, but sometimes i think you are intellectually too optimistic / lots of hopeful if's and buts (not specifically the post I'm replying to) but ignoring the same routine we're going through over and over with the players since we were lucky enough to develop/buy cheap a spine of arguably world class players.

Poch could be a great a manager but I truly believe we have and have had a culture of idiot players for a long while now (maybe it's a London culture thing or being so close to Essex), they are not coach-able by any type of manager - information goes in then very quickly seems to get thrown out the window they seem to have a memory cap or something. (Excluding the newer players, too early to comment, e.g. Dier looks to have a brain).

I think they save their memory banks not for footballing routines but for routines for picking up slags in Faces.

Poor Hugo is the only one who looks like he has a cultured brain on him, the only one that doesn't have that Vietnam glazed over look in his eyes when shit hits the fan.

 

[scottlag10]

Really is depressing looking on here!

People are panicking far too quickly. I am hoping this performance is just a one off under Pochettino. Last weekend we played really well and were extremely unlucky not to get the 3 points. I will only start panicking and ranting/raving if this type of performance is given consistently, not a one off.

 

[Gaz_Gammon]

Some people on here really need to stop pining for Harry.

Agreed, because we were were simply terrible when he was here, compared to the total football played under AVB and Sherwood.

 

[Gaz_Gammon]

Some of these comments I see here are just hard to believe. And to think, we're only a month into the season.

Another couple of results like Sunday's and the season will be over. Ever thought about that?

If according to your thought process our season begins in October then we really are going about this game the wrong way.

 

[vigospur]

Should be compulsory on here for posters to say which Club they actually support.

 

[Gaz_Gammon]

Exactly. He had a "well wtf are you guys playing at???" look on his face.

If that were true then why leave it so late to make substitutions?

If it was that much of a clusetrfuck of a game we were playing why not yank Vlad and bring on Verts?

I don't think he even knew what to do, and that's not a reflection of his ability, just that he had little else to choose.

He did however say that he was "very happy with the squad" so he must see something that non of us do.

 

[Sweetsman]

Another couple of results like Sunday's and the season will be over. Ever thought about that?

If according to your thought process our season begins in October then we are really going about this game the wrong way.

Our season does start in October, because of the nature of the transfer window. In fact, if you look at the table right now most of our competitors are not way above us. Therefore, your assertion about the season being over in two matches' time does not stand. What matters, something that seems to be lost on many of the people who are complaining now, is how the season finishes, and that was the problem with Mr Redknapp.

 

[Indacupfortottenham]

At home against a teamnormally fighting for 10-14th we had 1 shot on target.... Horrendous, absolutely appalling

Well that's an improvement on Thursday. One shot on target in two games!

 

[balalasaurus]

Another couple of results like Sunday's and the season will be over. Ever thought about that?

If according to your thought process our season begins in October then we really are going about this game the wrong way.

Never said anything about the season starting in October or that we will have more results like we did on Sundays. What I do find ridiculous is the fact that we have people on here already acting like Sundays result will be a given for the next few games or that our season is indeed over which in fact it is far from being (seeing as it's not even October yet).

Just calling for a bit of perspective that's all. The season is only a month in. We've got a new manager and a new style of play. We've shipped out our captain and appointed a new one to take his place. This, for all intents and purposes, is a new team that needs time. At least Poch isn't slow when it comes to identifying the problems we have. Rather he has publicly voiced his disappointment. No reason to believe that he will allow such dour displays to continue nor that he has no plan to address our shortcomings (as some of the posts here seem to suggest).

For all our talk of 'giving the new manager time' we seem to be in quite a hurry if you ask me.

 

[Gaz_Gammon]

Did you miss the Keith Burkinshaw era? A manger greater than a thousand Harry Redknapps and a man worth a million Harry Redknapps.

The original poster was referring to the PL era i think.

 

[Gaz_Gammon]

Never said anything about the season starting in October or that we will have more results like we did on Sundays. What I do find ridiculous is the fact that we have people on here already acting like Sundays result will be a given for the next few games or that our season is indeed over which in fact it is far from being (seeing as it's not even October yet).

Just calling for a bit of perspective that's all. The season is only a month in. We've got a new manager and a new style of play. We've shipped out our captain and appointed a new one to take his place. This, for all intents and purposes, is a new team that needs time. At least Poch isn't slow when it comes to identifying the problems we have. Rather he has publicly voiced his disappointment. No reason to believe that he will allow such dour displays to continue nor that he has no plan to address our shortcomings (as some of the posts here seem to suggest).

For all our talk of 'giving the new manager time' we seem to be in quite a hurry if you ask me.

First of all i don't doubt that Poch will improve this side.

We are not though playing a "new style of play" as you state. The high pressing style (not evident yesterday by the way) was played by AVB, so it's not as if none of the squad knew what was coming.

Playing this 4-2-3-1 has produced zero goals against Liverpool, WBA and away in the EL (sounds familiar?). Where is plan "B"?

As you say if Poch isn't slow when it comes to pointing out the problems we have then let's hope he's as quick to fix them.

As for fielding a "new team" only Dier was new from any of the players starting on Sunday so i don't know what you mean about a new team. If your'e referring to the system as i dais before those playing yesterday had all played under AVB using the same system.

Time will tell if Poch can make a difference and he should be given a couple of seasons to make the changes required. I really hope that he can do that.

 

[vigospur]

The original poster was referring to the PL era i think.

No, he said "since Nicholson."

 

[thinktank]

I love your posts ThinkTank, but sometimes i think you are intellectually too optimistic / lots of hopeful if's and buts (not specifically the post I'm replying to) but ignoring the same routine we're going through over and over with the players since we were lucky enough to develop/buy cheap a spine of arguably world class players.

Poch could be a great a manager but I truly believe we have and have had a culture of idiot players for a long while now (maybe it's a London culture thing or being so close to Essex), they are not coach-able by any type of manager - information goes in then very quickly seems to get thrown out the window they seem to have a memory cap or something. (Excluding the newer players, too early to comment, e.g. Dier looks to have a brain).

I think they save their memory banks not for footballing routines but for routines for picking up slags in Faces.

Poor Hugo is the only one who looks like he has a cultured brain on him, the only one that doesn't have that Vietnam glazed over look in his eyes when shit hits the fan.

Let me put it this way...I trust poch to turf out the starkly average as he goes along.

That's what gives me the hope.

He's brave enough to ditch the crap and bring through hungry youngsters if he has to to fill the gaps.

If we keep the best of what we've got and and bring through new, vital energy into the squad then it'll be go time.

Some of the players have only just properly outed themselves as 'play when I feel like it' types. It won't be tolerated and he'll sort it sooner or later.

We've got the right man, give him time (and, especially, another summer window).

 

[Gaz_Gammon]

No, he said "since Nicholson."

So he may be wrong, but Redknapp is the most successful Spurs manager since the PL was formed. I would certainly put Burkinshaw above that though.

 

[thinktank]

If that were true then why leave it so late to make substitutions?

If it was that much of a clusetrfuck of a game we were playing why not yank Vlad and bring on Verts?

I don't think he even knew what to do, and that's not a reflection of his ability, just that he had little else to choose.

He did however say that he was "very happy with the squad" so he must see something that non of us do.

60 mins isn't late for subs, gaz.

He's giving players a chance, best he do that at the beginning of the season and see who's capable of what in the heat of battle rather than just in training.

And players are obviously showing something different in training than they are on match days that's for sure.

One thing we have to realise is that we are training with ourselves so he's getting a skewed view of things anyway. lol

Naturally he'll say he's happy with the squad so he can get the best out of them.

This guy needs a season and another window. That will always be the case. It's only September, people.

 

[balalasaurus]

First of all i don't doubt that Poch will improve this side.

We are not though playing a "new style of play" as you state. The high pressing style (not evident yesterday by the way) was played by AVB, so it's not as if none of the squad knew what was coming.

Playing this 4-2-3-1 has produced zero goals against Liverpool, WBA and away in the EL (sounds familiar?). Where is plan "B"?

As you say if Poch isn't slow when it comes to pointing out the problems we have then let's hope he's as quick to fix them.

As for fielding a "new team" only Dier was new from any of the players starting on Sunday so i don't know what you mean about a new team. If your'e referring to the system as i dais before those playing yesterday had all played under AVB using the same system.

Time will tell if Poch can make a difference and he should be given a couple of seasons to make the changes required. I really hope that he can do that.

Actually there are quite a few differences between AVBs style and Poch's style but I don't want to go into that as it's a whole other debate.

Personally I have faith that he knows what needs to be addressed and is working towards it.

Re: the new team however - Kaboul, Capoue, Lamela , Chiriches and Chadli were either missing for most of the season or not played for one reason or the other. Either way none of them can claim to have received an extended run at games. Dier is new and is being played out of position atm. With 6 out of 10 outfield players relatively new to the starting XI, I think it's safe to say that this is in fact a 'new team'.

I do agree that time will tell however we have to give that time. We don't have a Bale in our ranks to paper over cracks anymore. Anything that this team achieves now is down to the players and manager. But both need time to make any achievements. I just don't think calling it a season five games in is founded on any kind of reason or logic.

 

[balalasaurus]

60 mins isn't late for subs, gaz.

He's giving players a chance, best he do that at the beginning of the season and see who's capable of what in the heat of battle rather than just training.

And players are obviously showing something different in training than they are on match days that's for sure.

One thing we have to realise is that we are training with ourselves so he's getting a skewed view of things anyway. lol

Naturally he'll say he's happy with the squad so he can get the best out of them.

This guy needs a season and another window. That will always be the case. It's only September, people.

You and I seem to be in the minority mate.

 

[thinktank]

You and I seem to be in the minority mate.

The enlightened few.

 

[thinktank]

To put a little perspective on things, if we'd won, we'd be in third.

The equaliser at Sunderland was undeserved, as the performance was otherwise excellent. If we'd held on there and won today we'd be comfortably in second a point of Chelsea.

It is very early days to say the least.

This was thoroughly disappointing however, and I hope Poch whips them into shape for it. Better to stamp out complacency early and find out who has the right character to fight for every game.

So far this season Eriksen has not performed well and Adebayor needs to keep scoring if he is to maintain his place in the team. He should have buried a simple header in the first half to put us 1 up.

After a good start things have gone off the boil a little. The North London Derby should get everyone fired up.

Can't believe I'm saying this, but that's a spot on post.