Mauricio Pochettino accuses Tottenham players of showing lack of passion

[Jamturk]

Exactly. He had a "well wtf are you guys playing at???" look on his face.

He's on a learning curve with the scope of these players and their inconsistency.

And he can't fix our problems until he actually sees what's at the heart of them and yesterday he got a clear display of the shit mentality that has plagued this team for so long.

He's got a season to sort them out or ship 'em out.

Totally unacceptable display - half-arsed and half-hearted. From his point of view, seen as though it's new to him, he's got to 'nip it in the bud' right now!

He appears to be doing this with Verthonghen, at the expense of the quality of the team.

Are people prepared to stand behind him if he drops

Verts for Chiriches?

Ade for Kane?

Eriksen for Townsend?

And we end up losing more games like yesterday, he's between a rock and a hard place.

Still he has a 5 year contract and should do what he has to do

 

[thinktank]

Our players do show a lack of passion. Why? Is it that they genuinely do not care? Are were just recruiting the wrong type of player? I am sick of it. Players at lower level teams like Leicester have players willing to die for the cause. The successful teams also have this and are able to buy players with character. The likes of Paulinho are a disgrace and we need to ditch them as soon as possible. Do they just join for the money and the bright lights of London? We need to link their wages to results and then they may break sweat. A whole change of attitude is needed in that bunch of underachieving losers. I just hope that Poch is able to bring it about.

Thing is poch had s'ton playing like Vardy did for Leicester against manure - total commitment, to a man.

His job is now to identify the key elements of complacency in the squad and either successfully convert them to the cult of poch or phase them out.

He won't let it continue for much longer, I'm sure of that.

 

[thinktank]

He appears to be doing this with Verthonghen, at the expense of the quality of the team.

Are people prepared to stand behind him if he drops

Verts for Chiriches?

Ade for Kane?

Eriksen for Townsend?

And we end up losing more games like yesterday, he's between a rock and a hard place.

Still he has a 5 year contract and should do what he has to do

Because of the results I've seen him get by doing things his way I'm, personally, happy to sit back watch and just hold it down and see where we have developed at the end of the season.

I've got a pretty open mind about things, but yeah, this Chiri business is a real tester lol, surely he's seen enough to be happy that this guy isn't a prem CB. Zero composure and way too erratic. Can't afford to have a player like that give other defenders the jitters.

 

[Jamturk]

Thing is poch had s'ton playing like Vardy did for Leicester against manure - total commitment, to a man.

His job is now to identify the key elements of complacency in the squad and either successfully convert them to the cult of poch or phase them out.

He won't let it continue for much longer, I'm sure of that.

But he didn't have teams coming to St Marys setting up like they do for us.

I hate comparisons like these, its nonsense people wonder why x plays so well for that team and like this for another team.

It just doesn't work like that.

 

[Jamturk]

Because of the results I've seen him get by doing things his way I'm, personally, happy to sit back watch and just hold it down and see where we have developed at the end of the season.

I've got a pretty open mind about, but yeah, this Chiri business is a real tester lol, surely he's seen enough to be happy that this guy isn't a prem CB. Zero composure and way too erratic. Can't afford to have a player like that give other defenders the jitters.

But Verts is 1 of the players with a questionable attitude, who else can he play?

 

[Jamturk]

I think this is the other side of the coin with the DOF system, players that are important to the club may not be so important to the head coach.

Player power is bad enough in this country without players knowing they are more important than the Head coach trying to boss them.

Hence our turnover of managers, but guess what the same players remain. I mean how many managers has Lennon or Kaboul seen go out the door?

 

[thinktank]

But he didn't have teams coming to St Marys setting up like they do for us.

I hate comparisons like these, its nonsense people wonder why x plays so well for that team and like this for another team.

It just doesn't work like that.

In his time as a manager I'm pretty sure he's had to deal with teams that were ultra organised or shut up shop.

The difference is he had developed a team at s'ton, especially, that played so dynamically that they found ways to pick the lock.

Give him time and he'll do the same here.

That's my belief, I accept others feel differently.

 

[thinktank]

But Verts is 1 of the players with a questionable attitude, who else can he play?

Verts seems to have upped his attitude this season so far as far as I can see.

It'll probably end up faz, dier and verts rotating for prem games eventually and kaboul being used to rest others for certain games.

 

[Jamturk]

I'm in his time as a manager I'm pretty sure he's had to deal with teams that were ultra organised or shut up shop.

The difference is he had developed a team at s'ton, especially, that played so dynamically that they found ways to pick the lock.

Give him time and he'll do the same here.

That's my belief, I accept others feel differently.

Don't get me wrong I'm fully behind Poch, like all the other head coaches we have had.

But I will say this til I die that the DOF system does not work for a side like ours and is the biggest hindrance to any success on the field.

the 1 time we ditched the DOF system we had the most successful period in our modern history.

Why people overlook this when looking at the problems within our club really irks me.

 

[Spurger King]

As much as I questioned the appointment of Pochettino, I think it's far too early to start blaming him for the current state of affairs. The rot set in under AVB, and continued under Sherwood. I may not have liked much about Sherwood, but he was spot on about us having far too many players who couldn't give a shit.

Not only has Pochettino got to get these players to adjust to his tactics, he also needs to work out how to motivate them. It's not going to be easy, and it's certainly not going to happen over night. We were never going to hit the ground running this season, so it's only sensible that we see how we progress over the course of the season. If by the end of the season things are worse, or no better, then fair enough we can start to ask questions about whether Pochettino is the right man for the job. Certainly not yet though.

 

[thinktank]

Don't get me wrong I'm fully behind Poch, like all the other head coaches we have had.

But I will say this til I die that the DOF system does not work for a side like ours and is the biggest hindrance to any success on the field.

the 1 time we ditched the DOF system we had the most successful period in our modern history.

Why people overlook this when looking at the problems within our club really irks me.

I was under the impression that everyone was fully involved and humming the same tune since poch came?

 

[Gaz_Gammon]

60 mins isn't late for subs, gaz.

He's giving players a chance, best he do that at the beginning of the season and see who's capable of what in the heat of battle rather than just in training.

And players are obviously showing something different in training than they are on match days that's for sure.

One thing we have to realise is that we are training with ourselves so he's getting a skewed view of things anyway. lol

Naturally he'll say he's happy with the squad so he can get the best out of them.

This guy needs a season and another window. That will always be the case. It's only September, people.

One question Sir.

Would Fergie have let Vlad start the second half?

Start as you mean to go on i say and fuck upsetting a player or two. Too much sensitivity being shown by too many at this Club towards multi millionaires.

 

[Gaz_Gammon]

The enlightened few.

Here you go guys, just in case the old ones stop working.

 

[thinktank]

One question Sir.

Would Fergie have let Vlad start the second half?

Start as you mean to go on i say and fuck upsetting a player or two. Too much sensitivity being shown by too many at this Club towards multi millionaires.

Strange question/comparison...but anyway, who knows. I'm happy with poch's timings for subs thus far.

Poch had his own reasons for keeping him on a bit longer and to my mind it's because chiri had a mare against this lot in December and he didn't want to totally fuck his confidence. How I saw it. Hopefully we won't see him again unless he wakes up and stops clowning around at the back.

I think poch is being tactical to try and get the best out of what he's got to work with, I don't think his patience is inexhaustible though...not at all.

 

[thinktank]

Here you go guys, just in case the old ones stop working.

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Hilarious.

 

[Acid]

Let me put it this way...I trust poch to turf out the starkly average as he goes along.

That's what gives me the hope.

He's brave enough to ditch the crap and bring through hungry youngsters if he has to to fill the gaps.

If we keep the best of what we've got and and bring through new, vital energy into the squad then it'll be go time.

Some of the players have only just properly outed themselves as 'play when I feel like it' types. It won't be tolerated and he'll sort it sooner or later.

We've got the right man, give him time (and, especially, another summer window).

Agree, just not confident he'll be given the time, by the board or the fans.

 

[thinktank]

Agree, just not confident he'll be given the time, by the board or the fans.

I just can't picture Levy cutting this one short; I don't think he'd give him 5 years if he wasn't prepared to let the first year ride.

 

[panoma]

Gonna be a long season! But this is what we get when we have have aquired such an avarage collection of players.

To be honest it doesnt really mather what eleven we field as most are so close in ability, or lack of.

Mediocre squad = mediocre league finish!

 

[Black]

I remember when vlad got hauled off by sherwood and everyone had a fit

 

[scottlag10]

Gaz_Gammon, post:

We have no fighters in the team worthy of the name and are feared my no team. It's o.k. Poch saying that we have to become more focused but anyone following Spurs since AVB came along can see that we are weak across most parts of the pitch, and for sure have a distinct lack of character and leadership. To make Kaboul Captain in my opinion is a huge mistake, he shouldn't even be on the pitch as a starter.

I seem to remember that in AVB's full season their were quite a few games we pulled out of the fire in the dying minutes, that showed character and we got quite a reputation for it at the time if I remember rightly. It cant all of been Bale...can it?