The Mauricio Pochettino thread

[Gareth88]

I hope you're right

Just think you're dismissing the allure of Man Utd a little too readily

In the current position they seem to find themselves in I think alot of managers would steer clear. Look at the record since Fergie left David Moyes went down the shitter he was’nt the greatest manager in the league but had a great reputation with his work at Everton now he is struggling to find work, Van Gaal old but still came with a great reputation left with some
Bad marks maybe due to being outdated and Mouriniho as I said successful having a hard time turning it around 3 managers with great experience. If this isnt a warning for managers not sure what is. Could be seen as a challenge by some or ticket on the titantic.

 

[Mr Pink]

I doubt he’ll go. But if he did, it’s not like we’d be sniffing around the likes of Fat Sam or Woy for a replacement, is it? We’re a serious draw now, and I don’t think it would be impossible to improve on Poch. I’d prefer him to stay for another couple of seasons, but if he wants to go, I’ll be pretty relaxed about it.

He's not going anywhere, id be amazed if he went to United anytime soon.

He's still very young in managerial terms, and I think he'll be determined to kick on with us in the new stadium.

Could you imagine we permitted the move? It would be constant speculation surrounding Kane, Dele, Eriksen, Son, Alderweireld, Vertonghen... Our fucking tea lady.

We'd be a laughing stock.

 

[allatsea]

He may have loyalty, he may want to go who knows but one thing is for sure he ain't going there any time soon. No way Levy would allow him to leave it's that simple, maybe if he only had a year or two left on his contract but not when he'll have 4 still left in the summer.

If Poch wants to leave he can and there is nothing Levy can do about it. Contracts for Managers are meaningless.

 

[BringBack_leGin]

If Poch wants to leave he can and there is nothing Levy can do about it. Contracts for Managers are meaningless.

They really do, it’s no different to a player contract other than clubs tend To put up less of a fight if that manager really wants out.

13 years ago we screwed Chelsea for £8m when they took Frank Arnesen, a director of football with two years left on a £600k/year contract, and he’d only been with us one season. How much exactly do you think we’d insist on for Pochettino, by far our best manager of the premier league era, who has been with us for over four years and had over four years remaining on his £8m/ years deal?

Unless there is a few release clause, the negotiations to get Pochettino from Levy would be so long and protracted that, especially if it was mid season, any club trying to take him would get frustrated and go elsewhere. Based on the above about Arsnesem, I can’t see Levy picking up the phone for less than £100m.

 

[SirHarryHotspur]

If Poch wants to leave he can and there is nothing Levy can do about it. Contracts for Managers are meaningless.

We did have to pay Southampton to buy Poch and his mates out of their contracts, I believe they only had a year to run at the time. You can be sure that Levy would want mega money from Man U if Poch did decide he couldn't do any more at Spurs but it's not just him , Jesus , Miguel and Toni would also have to be bought out of their contracts. I don't believe contracts are meaningless , many managers who have been sacked do receive compensation according what was left on their contract and even when players want to leave during a contract the way of cancelling a contract is by paying a transfer fee.

 

[tototoner]

Could not agree with you more but what really is surprising is the amount of Liverpool fan's texting me and laughing. This is one of the reasons I really do hate them. Their supporters are vile and their club has the whole we're victims attitude. Pure scum ?

What are Liverpool fans doing reading The Sun, not proper Liverpool fans sez I

 

[allatsea]

They really do, it’s no different to a player contract other than clubs tend To put up less of a fight if that manager really wants out.

13 years ago we screwed Chelsea for £8m when they took Frank Arnesen, a director of football with two years left on a £600k/year contract, and he’d only been with us one season. How much exactly do you think we’d insist on for Pochettino, by far our best manager of the premier league era, who has been with us for over four years and had over four years remaining on his £8m/ years deal?

Unless there is a few release clause, the negotiations to get Pochettino from Levy would be so long and protracted that, especially if it was mid season, any club trying to take him would get frustrated and go elsewhere. Based on the above about Arsnesem, I can’t see Levy picking up the phone for less than £100m.

We were able to screw Chelsea over Arnesen as they could be proved to breaking UEFA/FA rules by meeting with him without our permission. If Poch decided he wanted to leave he could and there is nothing Levy can do to stop him. Where Levy would have some power is if he wanted to join another club before his contract at Spurs was finished. Then Levy could negotiate a fee with that club. But He can't make Poch stay at Spurs.

 

[tototoner]

I often wonder when stories like this appear if it is false news. Whether true or false, it has given us an interesting topic to talk about.

My take is Utd hierarchy are interested in Pochettino and have used Ashton to fabricate a story to see what Pochettino's reaction to being courted is, but Pochettino is well used to this by now, as seen when linked to Real Madrid.

Personally I think he'll stay with us until we win a few major trophies and make our new home stadium a fortress but Levy also needs to back him.

 

[shelfboy68]

I think this is it and where we are:

He's a perfect fit for us - his passion, style of play and ability to work on a budget are absolutely key fits for us as a club. As well as his ability to get the most out of players. I for one don't think we can replace him at the moment.

The new stadium buys us a bit more of his time. He's invested in us as a club and we're invested in him. He wants some time in the new stadium to make something happen IMO.

Longer term to echo your last point, we need to show him we will back him. In adding quality and chances to upgrade the squad with some net spend. A few seasons in the new stadium with no real backing could get very tenuous for him. I'm sure we will but that's a scenario where i see him getting fed up of things.

All true although I don't expect to see poch get any real backing I think it will stay as it always has been.

 

[BringBack_leGin]

We were able to screw Chelsea over Arnesen as they could be proved to breaking UEFA/FA rules by meeting with him without our permission. If Poch decided he wanted to leave he could and there is nothing Levy can do to stop him. Where Levy would have some power is if he wanted to join another club before his contract at Spurs was finished. Then Levy could negotiate a fee with that club. But He can't make Poch stay at Spurs.

Well, he can, he has a contract, it’s how they work. Okay, physically he cannot force Pochettino to come in to work every day, but if nobody pays what Levy is willing to accept then Pochettino has two choices:

go on strike, destroy his reputation and not work for an indeterminate period of time hoping that someone matches Levy’s price, which could last the duration of whatever his notice contractual period is (as I understand it this is often an entire year in managers contracts, as when sacked most managers contracts are clauses to entitle then to one year’s salary).

Suck it up, keep doing the job he’s paid to do and wait until if and when someone does pay what Levy would accept.

One thing is absolutely certain, Pochettino is not breaking his contract and working for any other club on the planet unless THFC are satisfied with the terms of his departure. So yes, you are right, we cannot literally make Pochettino stay, but we can quite easily stop him work elsewhere. Your original post which I responded to:

If Poch wants to leave he can and there is nothing Levy can do about it. Contracts for Managers are meaningless.

Is entirely, literally and unmitigatedly incorrect in every way. If Pochettino wants to leave there is something Levy can do about it, he can stop him working anywhere else for a significant period of time, and contracts for managers are not meaningless, in fact they are quite legally binding.

 

[wirE]

Poch must be flattered being linked to Real Madrid and Manchester United. My biggest worries is him leaving for Real Madrid and not United

 

[knowlespurs]

My take is Utd hierarchy are interested in Pochettino and have used Ashton to fabricate a story to see what Pochettino's reaction to being courted is, but Pochettino is well used to this by now, as seen when linked to Real Madrid.

Personally I think he'll stay with us until we win a few major trophies and make our new home stadium a fortress but Levy also needs to back him.

they wouldnt need to, they could just ask him

 

[spursfan77]

But but but Neil twatson says

http://www.espn.com/soccer/tottenha...no-happy-at-club-amid-manchester-united-links

 

[Gb160]

But but but Neil twatson says

http://www.espn.com/soccer/tottenha...no-happy-at-club-amid-manchester-united-links

Didn't Ashton just say that United were interested in Poch?

 

[Lighty64]

All true although I don't expect to see poch get any real backing I think it will stay as it always has been.

we have never really had the finances to compete with the big boys. yes last season was our best but no one really knows what happened this summer other than not getting anyone. I think you really need to look at all the transfer windows since ENIC took over, there are more windows that the net wasn't level, and have changed since we started the stadium build. very hard to compete in a market where your rivals have money sticking out their back pockets, not building a brand new stadium and could afford to pay mega wages to back their managers.

 

[thebenjamin]

He's not going anywhere, id be amazed if he went to United anytime soon.

He's still very young in managerial terms, and I think he'll be determined to kick on with us in the new stadium.

Could you imagine we permitted the move? It would be constant speculation surrounding Kane, Dele, Eriksen, Son, Alderweireld, Vertonghen... Our fucking tea lady.

We'd be a laughing stock.

Don't have any choice if he decided to go.

 

[shelfboy68]

we have never really had the finances to compete with the big boys. yes last season was our best but no one really knows what happened this summer other than not getting anyone. I think you really need to look at all the transfer windows since ENIC took over, there are more windows that the net wasn't level, and have changed since we started the stadium build. very hard to compete in a market where your rivals have money sticking out their back pockets, not building a brand new stadium and could afford to pay mega wages to back their managers.

Yes mate we all know about the stadium affecting finances even though we were fed the guff years ago that it wouldn't affect spending which of course it has probably why we didn't recruit in the summer.
But I'm just a realist fella the stadium will help of course but the biggest income is from TV money and if some fans are expecting levy and co to spend like Arabs from now on I think they will be sadly mistaken.

 

[Gb160]

Yes mate we all know about the stadium affecting finances even though we were fed the guff years ago that it wouldn't affect spending which of course it has probably why we didn't recruit in the summer.
But I'm just a realist fella the stadium will help of course but the biggest income is from TV money and if some fans are expecting levy and co to spend like Arabs from now on I think they will be sadly mistaken.

Yep, I think the stadium will just serve to make us more attractive to buyers.

 

[shelfboy68]

Yep, I think the stadium will just serve to make us more attractive to buyers.

Probably mate but then the club could end with real wankers for owners as we have seen with some other clubs, so are we better off sticking with what we have it's a tough one isn't it.

 

[Gb160]

Probably mate but then the club could end with real wankers for owners as we have seen with some other clubs, so are we better off sticking with what we have it's a tough one isn't it.

Knowing our luck Ashley will flog Newcastle and buy us...he's a Yid I think.