Mauricio Pochettino

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  1. Monkey boy

    Monkey boy Well-Known Member

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    quite how Mauricio didn't win Manager of the month for January I don't know?

    1st Jan - Watford 1 - 4 Tottenham
    4th January - Tottenham 2 - 0 Chelsea (ending a 13 match winning streak in the process)
    8th January - Tottenham 2 - 0 Aston Villa (FA Cup)
    14th January - Tottenham 4 - 0 West Brom (One of the most complete performances you'll see from any team all season)
    21st January - Man City 2 - 2 Tottenham
    28th January - Tottenham 4 - 3 Wycombe
    31st January - Sunderland 0 - 0 Tottenham

    I mean come off it, 5 wins and 2 draws. GD+11

    Liverpool fans and media would be rioting in the streets if this had happened to Klopp.
     
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  3. TottenhamMattSpur

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    You don't really seem to care about facts or figures when arguing all the time.
    Bit like a typical daily mail writer.
     
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  4. TheHood

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    What facts and figures have you used? Show me the ones I have ignored then, go on then Rafa.
     
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  5. Gaz_Gammon

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    When was the last time prior to that when we reached the quarter final of the CL or indeed qualified for it? At that time we certainly overachieved and posting a view suggesting that Redknapp failed is plain bloody stupid. You could argue that we failed to win the PL under Poch last season as much as you could lay the blame at Redknapp for just about making the CL.

    I'm no Redknapp lover but will always give credit where credit is due, and that night at home to Inter Milan will always be one of the highlights of my almost forty years of being a Spurs fan and and season ticket holder.

    Get over yourself and support the club and everything it has achieved whoever the Manager.
     
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  6. Dov67

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    who said he failed?

    I said what irked me was his lack of ambition and the implication that we couldn't possibly ever expect anything other a chase for fourth spot and that we should be grateful for that, which struck me as rather self serving.

    If Chelsea came in for Dele or Kane and they were agitating for a move could you imagine Poch telling the media that he couldn't blame them, as Redknapp did when Chelsea were after Modric? No, me neither

    I've supported the club even in the worst of times so perhaps its you who needs to get over yourself.
     
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  7. LukaKranjcar

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    Mauricio Pochettino embodies everything i want Tottenham Hotspur to represent. Hes performing absolute wonders.
     
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  8. stevenurse

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    Easily the favourite manager of my lifetime. He's magic ya know ;)

    Everything he does is classy, from his press conferences to his manner on the sideline. A real figurehead you can be proud to be the face of your club. No Homo :cautious:
     
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  9. Gaz_Gammon

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    I tried to point you in the right direction of your original post.


    Neither Dele or Kane are agitating for a move, (then again we are not third bottom of the league as we were when Redknapp took over). Over the years, Sheringham, Keane, Berbatov, Modric, Carrick and Bale have all moved on. After Berbatov Levy was never going to sell an asset to another PL club and that is why Modric would have never have gone to Chel$ea.
     
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  10. Dov67

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    We did indeed fail to reach 4th spot when Redknapp said 4th was the very best we could hope for.

    and we were not third from bottom when Modric wanted to move to chelsea, as I'm sure you are well aware - but still Redknapp said he couldn't blame him for wanting to go?

    Now again, I ask - same situation this time hypothetical of course, but Kane agitating for a chelsea move - do you think it more likely that Poch would tell the media and Kane himself that

    a) he can achieve everything he wants with us, or

    b) i don't blame him for wanting to go to chelsea?

    To even ask that question is to demonstrate the crucial difference in the mentality between the two managers, and hence the point i was making
     
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  11. Donki

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    How did I forget u were from gods own country? I'm drunk I think I knew but somehow forgot?! .... I'm going to bed lol.
     
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    I actually was a Harry fan but one thing I can say is I am far more optimistic watching us now than I was under Harry. In that I mean when you were watching a Harry side before kick off you were never quite sure what was gonna turn up. Watching us now I do t feel the same nervous anticipation, 9 out of 10 times I know we will control the game and not get beaten. To me that makes Poch the better coach, it's s team effort not relying on a moment of individual brilliance.
     
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  13. guiltyparty

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    Special circumstances.

    Swansea were bottom, coming off the back of four 3 goal+ hammerings when Clement joined. He's won 3 out of 4, including away at Liverpool, and they're a point clear of relegation zone.

    That's phenomenal. Poch had a great January, but a general continuation of an upwards trajectory, rather than a complete turnaround. If that run had taken us top, it may have had the necessary drama to compete
     
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  14. Monkey boy

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    Clement has only won 3 not 4. He also got knocked out of the FA cup and got demolished 4-0 at home to Arsenal.

    Their win at Anfield was very good I grant you that but the other 2 were scrappy 2-1 victories against Southampton and Crystal Palace, both of whom are truly terrible at the moment. Come on, Mauricios run of results in January were far superior to that of Clements.
     
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    Sorry you're right on the stats, yes, edited

    I don't disagree on pure results but I think it's sentiment wot won it. You can't really compare the two

    Conte would win every month otherwise - although notably not this month.

    Also pretty sure manager of month is league only. Record of 4/2/0 closer to 3/0/1 than 5/2/0 and 3/0/2
     
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  16. Luka Van der Bale

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    It's a league only award.
     
  17. Monkey boy

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    All the more reason to give it to Mauricio then wouldn't you say?
     
  18. dontcallme

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    Guess drawing away to Sunderland and City hurt us.

    Clement beat Palace, Liverpool and Southampton. Considering where Swansea were it was fair enough to give him the award.
     
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    Sunderland draw definitely cost him. Doubt City one did though, that was a strong result.
    Manager of the Month shall usually have no poor games, Sunderland one just wasn't good enough.
     
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    Was intrigued as to how he'd set up tactically this game, seeing as he's gotten the better of Pep (the home game), Wenger and Conte (the home game and the first half of the away game) this far this season by astute tactical adjustments.

    For some reason, he seemed to think we could play Liverpool away as if we were at home against WBA or Sunderland and win at Anfield by not adjusting to their strenghts at all. Slow, meticulous build up play, and leaving Davies isolated against Mane all game...

    Insanely poor from him.
     
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