The Mauricio Pochettino thread

[Shadydan]

There he is ^

 

[Bulletspur]

Honestly it's so tiring.

People interpret things like that purely to suit their own agenda, it's actually funny that our own fans twist what our managers says and try and make a desperate point out of it, happened with the cup argument where he was talking about priorities and people are adamant that he is totally disregarding the cup

Different levels of comprehension @Shadydan . Some tolerance required. Not everyone has your intellect (and I do mean that as a complement)

 

[Donki]

And what has Pochettino said about managing an elite level club? He says he wants to manage an elite level club - THFC. He wants to make us an elite level club. And once the stadium is completed we will have everything in place to make us an elite level club - so long as there is a shrewd, canny manager in charge. He has faith in his ability. So the question is, having put in so much work into this club, having faith in his ability, having such aspirations and, as some of us repeat endlessly, having such a high regard for loyalty*, is he likely to just jump ship to an elite club when it just means he can spend a load of money, like Guardiola, as a short-cut to actually proving his self-worth is well placed?

Honestly, so many folk really do cast back the present into a past that never existed. Poch has repeatedly referenced Alex Ferguson as an inspiration to be emulated. Did Ferguson manage an elite level club? Yes. Did he take over an elite level club? NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!
No, he never. When Ferguson took over United they were still considered a member of the Big Five. But there were definitively the least recently successful member of that Big Five. Liverpewel were definitively an elite level club. ArseAnal [spits] were more of an elite level club than United. We were more of an elite level club than United. Same for Everton. We had all won several major trophies in a period where United had won approximately feck all. The fact is, United took a gamble on building a massive stadium at a time when the hoolie problem was driving attendances down, and when they had won approximately feck all for years - and kudos to them for that, as it paid off. And Ferguson took every single opportunity to tell everyone United were the biggest club in the World - when they patently weren't - to the point were opposition teams started believing it and bricking themselves. But if he really wanted to just manage an elite level club he would have been better waiting until there was a vacancy at Liverpool, or taking the job we offered him (in spite of his wife), or even going to the Goons (TF that didn't happen). But he didn't. He wanted to make United an elite level club again - and had faith in his own ability.

This is the programme. Poch has referenced it dozens of times. Literally dozens. He's said if Levy offered him a fifteen year contract right now he would sign it. I don't know why so many Spurs fans choose to ignore all of this and just believe that whenever any club that is currently slightly bigger than us might want him he is just going to go back on everything he has ever said and all the hard work he has ever done and just toodle off sharpish. I don't believe it. He is our manager. I am happy with that and don't even consider it changing for the foreseeable. Not unless Levy manages to seriously piss him off...and ATM that doesn't seem that likely. Come on folks, get with the programme!

*On the subject of loyalty, heavy duty posts have been made about it. How much Poch values it. How much he felt let down by Espagnol repeatedly sell the young players he developed. How much he felt let down by Southampton sacking the chairman he felt a huge degree of loyalty to and refusing to give him guarantees about the players he developed (and then selling seven, or was it eight, first team players in the summer). It matters to him. Does anyone really believe his players would buy into his line about loyalty and a team being about more than a collection of high wage packets if they thought he would just jump ship the first time anyone offered him a five pence bluddy rise?!? He's happy were he is, he earns good bluddy money, he's worked bluddy hard to create what he has stated he wants to create, and he values the loyalty Levy has shown him (when he knows that he would have been gone years ago for not winning anything or not winning enough at one of these elite level clubs, while he implemented his methodology).

Sorry, Donki, not just aimed at you...but this whole thing grates my gears a tad, I'm afraid. It's the extreme cynical view of the life that everyone, without fail, will just cheat and betray anyone and everyone else at the drop of a hat for a few bob. Something history doesn't even justify. And the arch-proponents of this view - a bunch of selfish, greedy, money grubbing ho's who really would sell their own grandmother for an extra farthing.

/Rant

For whats its worth I didnt think he would be tempted, not in the short term... I only said he would blink .

 

[Shadydan]

Different levels of comprehension @Shadydan . Some tolerance required. Not everyone has your intellect (and I do mean that as a complement)

Comprehension, that's what you put it down to?

K then

 

[StartingPrice]

I would lol for a very long time.

Seriously...I'd put out the bunting and have an effing street party - with giantatron screens of his big gurney face saying "Lamela inserted himself in between poor van Dyke and the ball just so he would get toe-punted and win a penalty" on constant loop

 

[StartingPrice]

There he is ^

I swear...there are some right bluddy trout whisperers on this forum

 

[StartingPrice]

Different levels of comprehension @Shadydan . Some tolerance required. Not everyone has your intellect (and I do mean that as a complement)

If you were feeling particularly well disposed towards him, you might even mean it as a compliment


http://www.write.com/writing-guides/general-writing/word-choice/complement-versus-compliment/

 

[Gassin's finest]

http://www.football365.com/news/tottenham-need-a-trophy-they-need-pochettino-more

 

[EastLondonYid]

The media should make their minds up,

One minute CL football is the most important factor in keeping top stars happy, we nail that and now its Trophies. and if we don't win anything our top stars will all be falling over each other to leave despite CL football and ofc an amazing new ground to play in.

The same media that wants Wenger out who has won 3 trophies in the last 4 years but can't get CL foootball anymore. All of a sudden Trophies mean jack shit in saving Wenger.

Poch can't win , and the reason being the Media are anti Spurs....full of ex goons , bitter scousers, pikeys, and ex chavs.

I have followed us for enough years to appreciate where we are right now.

 

[srups34]

The media should make their minds up,

One minute CL football is the most important factor in keeping top stars happy, we nail that and now its Trophies. and if we don't win anything our top stars will all be falling over each other to leave despite CL football and ofc an amazing new ground to play in.

The same media that wants Wenger out who has won 3 trophies in the last 4 years but can't get CL foootball anymore. All of a sudden Trophies mean jack shit in saving Wenger.

Poch can't win , and the reason being the Media are anti Spurs....full of ex goons , bitter scousers, pikeys, and ex chavs.

I have followed us for enough years to appreciate where we are right now.

Unfortunately some of our own fans are buying into some of the bullshit that's being printed.

 

[Gassin's finest]

The media should make their minds up,

One minute CL football is the most important factor in keeping top stars happy, we nail that and now its Trophies. and if we don't win anything our top stars will all be falling over each other to leave despite CL football and ofc an amazing new ground to play in.

The same media that wants Wenger out who has won 3 trophies in the last 4 years but can't get CL foootball anymore. All of a sudden Trophies mean jack shit in saving Wenger.

Poch can't win , and the reason being the Media are anti Spurs....full of ex goons , bitter scousers, pikeys, and ex chavs.

I have followed us for enough years to appreciate where we are right now.

I think F365 are pretty balanced, and that's a fair article, it defends us against the usual talk of trophies.

 

[LexingtonSpurs]

I hope Poch is rewarded with a new deal this summer. Really cannot overstate how important he has been to changing the entire culture at the club, where winning is an expectation every single match.

I have a feeling this is going to be a big summer for Spurs.

 

[RichieS]

I hope Poch is rewarded with a new deal this summer. Really cannot overstate how important he has been to changing the entire culture at the club, where winning is an expectation every single match.

I have a feeling this is going to be a big summer for Spurs.

He's the one person at the club who "Pay him whatever he wants" should actually apply to.

 

[Chilli]

Haven't really read this thread....but fuck me do I love Poch.

When I was a kid I got Lineker and Sherringham on the back of my shirts and there would always be a ‘favourite’ player. However, It’s so strange that there is no current player I admire more than the manager at the moment.

Would love him to stay at spurs for the next 15+ years and create an absolute dynasty.

 

[spursfan77]

I hope Poch is rewarded with a new deal this summer. Really cannot overstate how important he has been to changing the entire culture at the club, where winning is an expectation every single match.

I have a feeling this is going to be a big summer for Spurs.

His last contract was 2 summers ago wasn’t it?

so you’d think we must be thinking of offering him a new one.

 

[Shadydan]

Read this on F365 and thought it was absolutely spot on.

Pochettino is Marlon Brando

Rose and Alderweireld are in their peak playing years. Look at them and no player at Spurs is going to go public or do anything to upset Pochettino. They are collateral damage and Pochettino clearly took a lot from those conversations with Ferguson. Alderweireld played 90 minutes for Belgium and did not make the bench for the most crucial game in recent memory. They thought they could go to the press or stall on a contract and still play as they were the best in the league in their positions.

This is how legacies are built and Pochettino is the Godfather. He is Marlon Brando sitting in his office who calmly takes it all in before deciding on how to seek retribution. £42m on Sanchez. Little or no rotation at left-back. Pochettino has made them pay literally and metaphorically. It must be eating them up. Alderweireld could have been earning £30-50k extra per week for 18 months now, and now Martinez says he risks losing his starting place at the World Cup. Rose could have had a new contract, retained his first-team place with Spurs and risks the same fate with England. Their bargaining power has gone, their futures solely rest on getting a move. They are watching from the sidelines, arguments for a first-team place less and less convincing as team-mates get the chances that they gave up.

The other top players will not want the same thing to happen to them. What Pochettino has done for Spurs is absolutely remarkable

 

[LexingtonSpurs]

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/footbal...-pochettino-line-huge-new-pay-deal-ward-real/

Tottenham Hotspur are optimistic Mauricio Pochettino will sign a new contract that would make him one of the best paid managers in the Premier League and that he will be joined by a host of the club’s stars.

Pochettino, Tottenham’s two-goal hero against Chelsea Dele Alli, Harry Kane, Jan Vertonghen, Hugo Lloris, Son Heung-min Son and Christian Eriksen are all expected to recommit themselves to the club in the coming months.

 

[bubble07]

Need to add lamela and dembele

 

[DCSPUR]

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/footbal...-pochettino-line-huge-new-pay-deal-ward-real/

Tottenham Hotspur are optimistic Mauricio Pochettino will sign a new contract that would make him one of the best paid managers in the Premier League and that he will be joined by a host of the club’s stars.

Pochettino, Tottenham’s two-goal hero against Chelsea Dele Alli, Harry Kane, Jan Vertonghen, Hugo Lloris, Son Heung-min Son and Christian Eriksen are all expected to recommit themselves to the club in the coming months.

The quotes from Hugo illustrate why he is, to a large degree, the coaching staff's main representative on the playing staff.....fully buys into the collective mindset

 

[yido_number1]

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/footbal...-pochettino-line-huge-new-pay-deal-ward-real/

Tottenham Hotspur are optimistic Mauricio Pochettino will sign a new contract that would make him one of the best paid managers in the Premier League and that he will be joined by a host of the club’s stars.

Pochettino, Tottenham’s two-goal hero against Chelsea Dele Alli, Harry Kane, Jan Vertonghen, Hugo Lloris, Son Heung-min Son and Christian Eriksen are all expected to recommit themselves to the club in the coming months.

Says a lot that I'm more excited to tie the players down to longer contracts than I would be to replace them or bring in other players. Would be a massive twist of fate if Toby and Rose suddenly signed up and blew away the rumours.