The Mauricio Pochettino thread

[Twizzle]

nice to see no one is over reacting

personally I think Poch was just being humble, he thinks he can help us develop our young squad but he may think that we need some one better when we make it to the next level which is only a matter of time

 

[makeveli]

Tactically naive needs to learn or go not a big game mamager

 

[Mullers]

rubbish...other than Ranieri...who has won trophies on this budget....name one

Harry Redknapp, Robert Martinez, Michael Laudrup, Alex McLeish.

 

[spursfan77]

I don't think anyone ever said that qualifying for the CL twice would instantly mean we started winning titles. It's a long process. Establishing ourselves as a regular participant in the CL increases not just the money we have to spend on wages etc. but more importantly increases our prestige and helps us attract a higher caliber of player. 10 years ago your average Italian/Spaniard/German etc. knew the name "Tottenham" if you mentioned it but other than that they knew nothing. We were a completely nothing club on the European scene. If we carry on as we are and become regular fixtures against the top teams then we slowly but surely can become a household name




Nothing looks like changing? Have you only become a Spurs fan in the last 18 months or something? Until Poch came along, barring the odd season here or there, we've spend the last half a century being barely a mid-table club. Before Poch took over we were pretty much like Everton in a "best of the rest but still nowhere near" category of our own. Now we're regularly playing in the CL and although not quite getting over the line, we're competing for second place in the league every season, which is something we can build upon.

How on earth you can say nothing's changing is quite frankly beyond me

Stop being so sensible. Don’t you know now is the perfect time to over react and not think clearly! ?

Media obviously seizing on poch’s words “me or another manager” despite saying “we” about 5/10 times in the same quotes. That’s a complete nothing by the way. He knows how football works and that if he doesn’t deliver he’ll be out on his ear. Thankfully I don’t think this will happen. That would be the biggest over reaction of them all.

 

[allatsea]

Tactically naive needs to learn or go not a big game mamager

Beat Man U, Chelsea, Liverpool, Arsenal in the PL. Only struggled against Man City. So not so tactically naive !

 

[ILS]

We don’t have the Mane’s or Salah’s. fam me, add Chamberlin to that.

Take Son out of the team yesterday and we have no genuine pace in out attack unlike Liverpool or Manchester City and even Utd have that option with Martial and Rashford.

 

[Mullers]

It means he WANTS serious BACKING!!!

He will get it, but now he is pushing it publicly.

Sissoko 30 million, Llorente 10 million, GKN 10 million, Janssen 20 million, Sanchez 40 million, Moura 25 million, Foyth 8 million. He's been backed more than any other spurs manager in history, he's spent 70 million on shite and he's still been backed.

Poch knew when he came here that we couldn't spend the money that the other top 5 do.

He's been great for us but he can't blame yesterday on a lack of backing. His decision to drop the number 1 keeper, his decision not to play Toby, his decision not to take off Dembele earlier. He's got to take some responsibility and stop moving the goalposts.

 

[CowInAComa]

We've progressed every season under Poch. We've challenged for the title twice and captured the notice of Europe with our performances in the CL this season.

We lost a semi final against Manchester Utd, not in the 3rd Round against Gillingham. The fact that we expect to win this tie is indicative of how far we've come.

The signing of moura and the pursuit of Zaha suggests he is more than aware we are a little one paced up front.

Just secure top 4 and it's been another step forward this year.

 

[luptic]

I love Poch for what he has done, but like yesterday and Juventus, there is concern as to whether he had played the best team he had at his disposal for important matches. Whilst i understand his reason for dropping Toby for these two games and Lloris yesterday, one does think that if he had selected these two then the story could have been different. Granted we beat United in January but Toby wasnt fit.
Hopefully the issues like these are addressed next season.
Is so fucking annoying now havent to stop listening to the radio etc over the next few days with the questioning about his ability as a manager, the pay of players, and the bottlejob label etc.
Yesterday we had a chance of putting those questions to bed and we failed to do so. Beating united means nothing these days if you cant beat them or other teams when it counts, that the difference of where we are at the moment and where WANT to be.

 

[spursfan77]

We've progressed every season under Poch. We've challenged for the title twice and captured the notice of Europe with our performances in the CL this season.

We lost a semi final against Manchester Utd, not in the 3rd Round against Gillingham. The fact that we expect to win this tie is indicative of how far we've come.

The signing of moura and the pursuit of Zaha suggests he is more than aware we are a little one paced up front.

Just secure top 4 and it's been another step forward this year.

True but I don’t think Zaha wants to leave Palace

 

[Archibald&Crooks]

Sissoko 30 million, Llorente 10 million, GKN 10 million, Janssen 20 million, Sanchez 40 million, Moura 25 million, Foyth 8 million. He's been backed more than any other spurs manager in history, he's spent 70 million on shite and he's still been backed.

Poch knew when he came here that we couldn't spend the money that the other top 5 do.

He's been great for us but he can't blame yesterday on a lack of backing. His decision to drop the number 1 keeper, his decision not to play Toby, his decision not to take off Dembele earlier. He's got to take some responsibility and stop moving the goalposts.

He's been backed more than any manager in Spurs history because he's been in the job longer than any manager in Levy's history, conveniently forgetting the 'net spend' isn't actually as high as you might think either.

He 'dropped' nobody, he's been playing Vorm in the cup, nobody complained in the other games. Toby hasn't been playing much at all but nobody was moaning when we were winning games without him and you have no idea wether or not taking of Dembele any earlier would have made any difference at all.

How about you take some responsibility and put the goalposts where they ought to be in the first place?

 

[luptic]

We've progressed every season under Poch. We've challenged for the title twice and captured the notice of Europe with our performances in the CL this season.

We lost a semi final against Manchester Utd, not in the 3rd Round against Gillingham. The fact that we expect to win this tie is indicative of how far we've come.

The signing of moura and the pursuit of Zaha suggests he is more than aware we are a little one paced up front.

Just secure top 4 and it's been another step forward this year.

This is true, but we have been here before. he talks about lessons being learned, but yesterday he made the same errors that people will be calling himself out on today.
We do need investment in the players he wants, and no more of this well I have an alternative to that approach. I understand that they might not be easily got because of wages etc, but at Least Moura looks to be start of that. Hopefully there isnt unrest because of yesterdays bitter pill.

 

[JimmyG2]

Onions

 

[luptic]

With regards to Lloris, didnt United not play Romero in the cup games up until yesterday? Maybe Jose understood the importance of playing the best team he had at his disposal better than Poch did. Loyalty to players only works if you get the result, the first sign of failure will highlight your loyalty to those players like Voorm, when there is a greater goall.

 

[Gbspurs]

He's been backed more than any manager in Spurs history because he's been in the job longer than any manager in Levy's history, conveniently forgetting the 'net spend' isn't actually as high as you might think either.

He 'dropped' nobody, he's been playing Vorm in the cup, nobody complained in the other games. Toby hasn't been playing much at all but nobody was moaning when we were winning games without him and you have no idea wether or not taking of Dembele any earlier would have made any difference at all.

How about you take some responsibility and put the goalposts where they ought to be in the first place?

That's because the other games weren't semi finals against the 2nd placed team in England. No excuse for not playing "strongest XI" in a game of that magnitude.

 

[TheHoddleWaddle]

Beautiful sunny morning. Still 4th. Still the best manager in my supporting history (I'm 40+). Nothing comes easy in football, losing happens. Accept it and look to the next game or even next season.
New stadium etc etc.

Maybe I'm.not part of the want everything instantly generation. It takes time, he's only been here a few seasons and has worked wonders. For those of you demanding silverware, guess what. It's going to take even more time.

 

[Archibald&Crooks]

With regards to Lloris, didnt United not play Romero in the cup games up until yesterday? Maybe Jose understood the importance of playing the best team he had at his disposal better than Poch did. Loyalty to players only works if you get the result, the first sign of failure will highlight your loyalty to those players like Voorm, when there is a greater goall.

He did and it's a decent point and certainly something he should perhaps take on board, but having said that, in the last few days people have been advocating dropping Lloris for Vorm and generally complaining about him (not everyone but a significant few) so to moan about him playing seems a little bit can't win either way on here where that's concerned.

 

[Oh Teddy Teddy]

With regards to Lloris, didnt United not play Romero in the cup games up until yesterday? Maybe Jose understood the importance of playing the best team he had at his disposal better than Poch did. Loyalty to players only works if you get the result, the first sign of failure will highlight your loyalty to those players like Voorm, when there is a greater goall.

In fairness I thought the same - but Romero was out with an injury so easy decision for Jose.

 

[Archibald&Crooks]

That's because the other games weren't semi finals against the 2nd placed team in England. No excuse for not playing "strongest XI" in a game of that magnitude.

I don't disagree but what's "strongest" changes on SC from game to game. See my last post, above.

EDIT: We lost so its an issue. Bah.

 

[Lennon1981]

With regards to Lloris, didnt United not play Romero in the cup games up until yesterday? Maybe Jose understood the importance of playing the best team he had at his disposal better than Poch did. Loyalty to players only works if you get the result, the first sign of failure will highlight your loyalty to those players like Voorm, when there is a greater goall.

Romero is injured so that decision was taken out of his hands, we don’t know who would have played had he been fit