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HildoSpur

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Pochettino does not need more money. His way of doing things and way of competing has not been built on big money. It's hard work, intensity, young hungry players, and forging a mindset where they will go out there, give 110% and run through brick walls.

What he needs is to stick to this approach even more, apply it as close to 100% as he possibly can, and be even more ruthless. There are still gaps in the squad that need addressing, but personally I don't think you need to strive for like for like quality - take Kane's backup for instance, what you need is someone hungry who can offer high energy for 90 mins and with a die for the cause attitude, rough up defences and allow the Eriksen's, Alli's, Son's etc to take advantage of it. And if players have lost that hunger after a few years, then it's got to be bye bye.

I also think that as a collective some of the standards in terms of what we do, the press/work rate/intensity etc, have dipped a bit, or certainly been a bit more inconsistent than the last couple of seasons.

Or we could just focus on supposed marquee players.....

I disagree with this - he does need more money - he has done fantastic and is great at bringing through young players but if we want to win titles/cups, etc. on a regular basis we need to significantly increase our spending.
 

ziggy

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Pochettino does not need more money. His way of doing things and way of competing has not been built on big money. It's hard work, intensity, young hungry players, and forging a mindset where they will go out there, give 110% and run through brick walls.

What he needs is to stick to this approach even more, apply it as close to 100%
as he possibly can, and be even more ruthless. There are still gaps in the squad that need addressing, but personally I don't think you need to strive for like for like quality - take Kane's backup for instance, what you need is someone hungry who can offer high energy for 90 mins and with a die for the cause attitude, rough up defences and allow the Eriksen's, Alli's, Son's etc to take advantage of it. And if players have lost that hunger after a few years, then it's got to be bye bye.

I also think that as a collective some of the standards in terms of what we do, the press/work rate/intensity etc, have dipped a bit, or certainly been a bit more inconsistent than the last couple of seasons.

Or we could just focus on supposed marquee players.....

If the players are giving 110% so should he, Poch out !!!

Sorry just trying to lighten the mood :)
 

LexingtonSpurs

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Who cares? Is this a new way of measuring success? I couldn’t give a monkeys if he’s reached every semi final since he’s joined us. Give me 1 semi leading to a cup win over constant semi final failures.....
I care. Its about putting the squad in a position to win things.

In the 4 years prior to Poch, Spurs had been in 1 semi-final - losing 5-1 to Chelsea.

So, to go from having no chance at Trophies to making a semi-final in 3 of 4 years, is progress. Football is a funny game sometimes - the better team does not always win a match, and the best teams do not win the Cups every year. It takes a bit of good fortune. As a fan, I just want a team that is in position to contend. And, there is no denying that we are a team capable of legitimately winning any match we play. Doesn't mean we will win them all - but we are consistently capable.
 

mpickard2087

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I disagree with this - he does need more money - he has done fantastic and is great at bringing through young players but if we want to win titles/cups, etc. on a regular basis we need to significantly increase our spending.

No he and the club need to identify the right type of player that fit his ethos and specifically for me offer that high energy and intensity, whether they cost 5m or 50m or come from the academy, rather than getting focused on spending 150m or whatever and obsessing about what we are spending compared to others and needing a star-studded team.
 

dagraham

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Its been said that if you don't complain it does not make you a better supporter; this is true but the reverse is fans that are forever complaining and finding fault are feeding the anti spurs brigade to an extent that all I seem to hear as pessimistic views bordering on sounding like they are Chelsea/gooners/West Ham fans in disguise. What I suggest is that these so called fans who are forever picking holes with anti spurs rhetoric should transfer there allegiance to the Harry Hotspur site they will be well at home there because there is never a positive lead; and if you say something positive you are soon shot down and ridiculed as a happy clapper.
As a spurs supporter since 1951 we have had good times for most of the sixties ;for a short time in the 70s;for 6 years in the eighties and since the 80s we had a cup in the 90s and after a couple of league cups .I desperately want spurs success but it is not going to come if fans can manage to get posh out of the club as that what most of these moaners seem intent on achieving.
I confess to being very very happy with the way the club is heading and see nothing but success in the future so call me a happy clapper I don't mind .At least I am not being two faced and calling myself a fan but constantly picking holes in the players ;the manager the chairman and having a go at fans for being behind whats going on as I say either move to the HarryHotspur site or go back to your sooner/cheatski or wet spam sites and stop pretending to be fans

Or alternatively we could just tolerate other fans viewpoints.
 

HildoSpur

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No he and the club need to identify the right type of player that fit his ethos, whether they cost 5m or 50m, rather than getting focused on spending 150m and obsessing about what we are spending compared to others and needing a star-studded team.

Nobody is saying we need a star-studded team - what I'm saying is that we need proper quality all over the pitch - not players who think will do a job or take a punt on. We need the right players but we need real quality and that I'm afraid means spending big bucks instead of going for the cheaper option.
 

mpickard2087

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Nobody is saying we need a star-studded team - what I'm saying is that we need proper quality all over the pitch - not players who think will do a job or take a punt on. We need the right players but we need real quality and that I'm afraid means spending big bucks instead of going for the cheaper option.

Lots of people are saying that. That we need marquee signings, to make a statement, that we need to 'show ambition' for the new stadium and it requires us to spend big money on big stars, and see the clamour for the return of the likes of Bale.

The number of top level teams who can boast a whole squad of quality like for like players is limited to about 3-5 at most. And they either have a bottomless pit of cash or are the truly elite ultra established historic clubs. Obviously you strive for quality with it, but our ethos and how we have got to this point as been on hard work on the pitch, spirit, hunger, and intensity, and that has still got to be the bedrock of what we do.
 

SpursDave88

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We are the new Newcastle under Keegan or Leeds under O'Leary it seems. A good entertaining side but ultimately nowhere near good enough to win anything. I hope that changes. But actually we have regressed over the past year. We are now significantly weaker at FB and CM. I struggle to see us sufficiently improving those areas in one summer.
 

Pauleta01

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How anyone can criticise Poch is beyond irrational for me! I first fell in love with Spurs in 1987 and that was a great team which was replaced by the 91 team which could have been great had it not been full of piss heads and bad full backs. Other than the Redknapp teams we have been incredibly poor in the 30 years since I fell in love with the mighty Spurs and this is the best team since 87 and probably even better. The facts about Poch are clear ...

1. Consistently the best performing Spurs team in 35+ years that we have had (results and positions)
2. We have a net transfer profit for the past 5 years at a time others have spent £300+ in net position. That is like trying to Race a Ferrari with a Mini! Poch has succeeded in doing so.
3. I have fallen in love with the club again, we all feel proud of the team in a way we have not felt for a long time, and everyone I know who goes regularly feels exactly the same.
4. The passion and respect he has installed inside the club is beyond recognition to what was there before he arrived. My only reference point is that my eldest son has trained with the Academy on multiple occasions at Hotspur Way and the way manners and respect are installed throughout and feeling of philosophy and passion, if fathers really thought about what environment they wanted for their sons to be developed and nurtured you would 100% chose Spurs for your family. The general feeling is that Poch has been a big part of this.

I was devastated on Saturday, starting to believe we have some sort of Boston Red Sox curse hanging over us, but the biggest fuck up of all would be to do anything to upset the Poch apple cart! Fortunately I believe Levy understands this and will not listen to outside influences. Read Poch's book the relationship that has developed between Levy and Poch seems pretty strong!
 

AnotherSpursFan

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Theres no one better than Poch except maybe Klopp the headbanger

Poch is a victim of his own success. Putting things in a car racing perspective, hes drivin a toyota corrolla in a downhill battle against the Lambros, the Ferraris, BMWs, Aston Martin and hes been consistent in giving them the finger everytime he overtake these fuckers. What else could you have asked for more?

Youre not gonna ask the Toyota guy why hes not no 1 caused thats just ridiculous. Thats a spit in the face to the toyota driver
 

theShiznit

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It seems like We have won more games under Poch than we did through the whole of the nineties so I am grateful to Poch for that, sure I was/am annoyed about the big games. But would much rather have this winning feeling through most of the season. than for one or two games every ten years (ending in 1)

What have we won more games than any other team over the past three seasons or something? (maybe taken points)

We have surmounted seeming obstacles under Poch (Wembley hoodoo to name but one) just need to get a big game win by some fluke and break the duck and then I am sure the good times will roll. (y)
 

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There always will be 1 PL champion, 1 FA winner, 1 CL winner and 1 LC winner. There are 6 competitive clubs in PL and more in CL chasing these 4 prizes, with majority of teams working on a much bigger budget than us. We continually punch above our weight, unearth hidden gems and in general have an effective recruitment programme. We have to continue to remain competitive to allow us the chance to grow and close this gap on all the others. Continuity of manager is our only hope of delivering this objective and this must be Poch. Realistically back him and we'll have every chance of success.
 

Archibald&Crooks

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Nobody is saying we need a star-studded team - what I'm saying is that we need proper quality all over the pitch - not players who think will do a job or take a punt on. We need the right players but we need real quality and that I'm afraid means spending big bucks instead of going for the cheaper option.
We need a star studded team :cautious:

hehe
 

fortworthspur

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for the first time I have doubts about Poch. he's a fine manager and I dont want him canned, but something changed Saturday, for me.
 

Stamford

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I disagree with this - he does need more money - he has done fantastic and is great at bringing through young players but if we want to win titles/cups, etc. on a regular basis we need to significantly increase our spending.

Yes but he also needs to be less stubborn at times. Two key players were missing that we needed on Saturday. If we are to win something we need experience and not just kids who are giving their all.
 
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Yes but he also needs to be less stubborn at times. Two key players were missing that we needed on Saturday. If we are to win something we need experience and not just kids who are giving their all.
Those two key players (just an assumption) were Hugo and Toby? Both played against Chelsea and we lost.
 
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