The Mauricio Pochettino thread

[StockSpur]

doesnt he have a months notice like the rest of us then?

 

[StevePil]

Poch is going nowhere IMO unless Levy has already gone back on a promise ofcourse but I cant believe that would have happened already.....

Equally why does everyone think Real Madrid want Poch?

 

[StockSpur]

The good thing is this could hugely work in our favour or hugely against us

Could be levy’s way out of spending by letting him go to Madrid so doesn’t have to back him and also pockets huge money and saves on his new pay rise

“We tried everything to keep Mauricio but he simply could not turn down Madrid”

Or it works for us

And levy goes hell for leather and actually backs a manager which would be interesting just can’t see it I don’t trust him

or we swap him /money+bale and hire wenger for 2 seasons ?

 

[arunspurs]

All the Local journalists words doesn’t mean a thing here. Most likely they get info from our PR team.

Whether there is verbal or written agreement present or not present, what matters is Poch’s thinking.

Unless he comes out & poo poos this, speculation will only grow...

 

[Everlasting Seconds]

No, it shows commitment. You don't sign a contract if you're not committed in the short term at least. Nothing about emotional investment just about the logic of signing a contract. Its not like Poch had no idea that big jobs might become available when signing the deal. Again how often do people leave after just signing a contract. Give me some examples then we can talk.

Also, for what its worth Poch can literally resign and move on to Madrid for free if he wanted to. If Poch wants to go and Madrid want him he will go. We have no leverage. Either Madrid pay out the contract or he resigns. Managers arn't like players we really don't have the same kind of power to prevent such things happening.

I don't think you are quite right about that. If I were a Football Club Director, the standard contract of employment would prevent this scenario by saying "if the manager resigns after (x months of) entering into this contract, he cannot take up another similar position until x months after resigning". Simples, you prevent that easily. So yeah, Pochettino CAN likely resign. But he probably CAN'T start in a new similar position the next day. Not every thing is like Football Manager.
If you are asking for examples, which I find a redundant question, then why are you not providing examples of a manager resigning and the next day/next week taking up a new job at a higher profiled club?

 

[bat-chain]

To quote Pochettino, I am so calm.

Best case scenario he stays, he is committed. We all want this of course.

But should he push to leave a week after signing a new 5year deal his mind isn’t probably on Tottenham anyway. In this situation Levy puts Madrid over a barrel.

 

[Rout-Ledge]

It’s clearly not impossible.

 

[lazypoodle]

No, it shows commitment. You don't sign a contract if you're not committed in the short term at least. Nothing about emotional investment just about the logic of signing a contract. Its not like Poch had no idea that big jobs might become available when signing the deal. Again how often do people leave after just signing a contract. Give me some examples then we can talk.

Also, for what its worth Poch can literally resign and move on to Madrid for free if he wanted to. If Poch wants to go and Madrid want him he will go. We have no leverage. Either Madrid pay out the contract or he resigns. Managers arn't like players we really don't have the same kind of power to prevent such things happening.

My limited understanding is as long Spurs didn't give Pochettino a half arsed contract, they will be able to refuse the resignation and prevent him from going. There will certainly be clauses including a notice period and garden leave, and such things would surely hamper any departure to Real Madrid in any reasonable timeframe for Perez before the election next year.

 

[C0YS]

Ancelotti has a team now does he not?

Sarri is Chelsea bound I believe?

Allegri has confirmed he will stay at juve this coming season?

Low is an interesting shout never ever seems to get linked to managers jobs but is a top class coach,

The other surprise for me is the Valencia coach marcellino is not linked

My bad with Anchelotti, been living in a cave lately.

Sarri can easily switch over, he has no commitment to Chelsea. Allegri's 'I think I'm staying at Juve next season' is hardly a big commitment. They could also go for coaches like Jardim, Dechamps and HIddink. They have options.

 

[CoopsieDeadpool]

ERIKSEN: ‘He showed he’s a Spurs man,’ Eriksen explained. ‘He’s really important. You can see what he has achieved with this club.’ “No, the players are happy with him, the club is very happy with him.

LLORIS: "He will be the best coach in the world one day. For me, he already is. His presence and our relationship are so strong as to be the single most important factors in my eyes."I feel very good here; after that, in football everything is fragile and can change very quickly. There are things you cannot refuse. That doesn’t mean I’m desperate."


That's the one's I can think of right now, but I'm sure I've also read other players saying similar things.

Do people really believe that Levy is going to allow Real Madrid to come in, steal our manager, potentially resulting in also losing the key players that have said how important Poch is to the club?

Right as that club is about to move into an almost £1billion development that practically depends upon the club remaining CL competitive?

I should Coco!

 

[easley91]

Now where's that Batista signing the RAW contract gif? Batista being Poch, RAW being Spurs, Triple H being Ronaldo and Flair being Perez.

Fits this perfectly.

Ignore all the Poch to Madrid hype as it is obviously garbage.

I would Keegan love it if they got Klopp and subsequently bought Salah though..

 

[Yid-ol]

I would love Real to try and tap Poch up.... Levy would have a field day with demands to not take it any further!

 

[StockSpur]

He's raised everyone's expectations by constantly over achieving with the tools at his disposal. Eventually this has to end, or you start to behave like a top 4 club across every area. We should be grateful that he has managed to make us competitive for top 4 over the last 3 years, as this is basically remarkable considering the financial constraints he has to deal with

what the fuck? thats irony right?
kane
dele
dier
lloris
erikson
alderwireld
vertonghan
dembele
quality wing backs on both sides..
best facilities in uk

overachieved you say???

 

[EQP]

Thats obvious the whole thing is Madrid testing the water, trying to stoke something. Its beneficial for Poch's side even if he does want to stay, gives him more leverage.

Hopefully the reaction will be Levy pulling all the stops to keep Poch happy

Great point! Levy knows RM's pockets are deep and wouldn't have an issue paying out whatever exorbitant fee Daniel places for Poch. Hopefully we'll see some transfer ITK this week and Poch pose brought back.

 

[Living Legend Colm G]

Only the people bright enough to realize the hottest girl in school is batty and they don’t want to deal with the headaches associated with her. I have no onion on Poch staying or going (other than wanting him to stay). He seems a bright guy and would be questionable to trade in all the capital he’s earned at Spurs to have Daniel’s ear for a position just left vacant because the manager had no say in the squad composition (per unquoted reports).

Anyone who went to school in South London in the early 90s, such as myself, just read that in a slightly different way than you mean I think

 

[StockSpur]

Anyone who went to school in South London in the early 90s, such as myself, just read that in a slightly different way than you mean I think

been there done that, hosepipe, golfball nuff said x

 

[Ron Burgundy]

Sometimes the hottest girl at school is a real bitch, and you know she is going to dump you in a couple of months - so, yeah, timing is everything. If its toward the end of school - go for it. If you still have many months to go - you don't want to be the guy who is dumped, and then has nobody at the end of the year.

But you still have sex with her, back yourself to be the one she doesn’t get rid of her and if she does...well, it was fun while it lasted, and you’ll always have that cache

 

[AmericanSpur]

Anyone who went to school in South London in the early 90s, such as myself, just read that in a slightly different way than you mean I think

That’s funny and unintentional. My apologies. I meant she’s a lunatic.

 

[C0YS]

I don't think you are quite right about that. If I were a Football Club Director, the standard contract of employment would prevent this scenario by saying "if the manager resigns after (x months of) entering into this contract, he cannot take up another similar position until x months after resigning". Simples, you prevent that easily. So yeah, Pochettino CAN likely resign. But he probably CAN'T start in a new similar position the next day. Not every thing is like Football Manager.
If you are asking for examples, which I find a redundant question, then why are you not providing examples of a manager resigning and the next day/next week taking up a new job at a higher profiled club?

Ok, Benitez to Real Madrid, Pochettino to Tottenham and Conte to Chelsea after 5 minutes of looking.

Anyway its irrelevent, you cant keep a manager against his will. Its not like a player. If Poch wants to go, he will go its really that simple.

 

[CoopsieDeadpool]

There is no such thing as a contract that ensures that a manager doesn't leave a club. Contracts can be bought out at any time.

Hypothetically, let's say that Poch was aware that he was Perez's top choice for the Madrid job if Zidane were to leave, and told Levy that he wanted assurances he'd be allowed to take the job if it came open or else he wouldn't sign the contract. In the eventuality that Poch signed the contract but still went to Madrid, Spurs would stand to get something like 42m more from the buyout of the new contract than the buyout of the old.

You really think Daniel Levy is going to risk Poch not renewing his contract, and potentially forgo 42 million pounds, over a stubborn refusal to give Poch his word that he can leave for a job he would have taken regardless?

I hear you loud & clear, and I know that a contract can be bought at any time. I also don't disregard the possibility that this 'informal agreement' could well have been made.

However, such an agreement would be with the thought that such an occasion would pop up in perhaps 1, 2 or 3 years down the line, not a bloody week or two after signing the contract.