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eddiev14

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And Vic was average/injured for most of last year. The hypocrisy on some here is funny. Not saying that is you.

I think he was superb for us when he was fit and we had two fast wing backs. As you say, he’s struggled with injuries which halted him in his tracks, and the system change last year exposed his weaknesses a bit more.

Anyway, not for here.
 

joelstinton14

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Reading between the lines so far in this transfer window it is my opinion that Enic and Levy are NOT going to back Poch with new players, if that happens we will get over it and crack on with the new season, however with our current squad the best we can hope for is top four (if anyone disagrees then I would love an explanation), and with our farcical record of semi final defeats I am certainly not confident about winning a cup, therefore this time next yeaFYI please see Poch's quotes earlier this summer = “You need to be brave,” said Pochettino. “In this type of situation being brave is important and you need to take risks. It is the moment in which the club needs to take risks". Nevertheless I would love nothing more than to be proved wrong and for it to be all smiles on the 9th of Aug, over to you Mr Levy. Audere Est Facere

If people are going to quote the being brave quote can they at least read the context they were said in. It really has been misquoted so many times. Sure it may be a veiled message towards levy but it is not as dramatic as people are making out. The context and tone of what he said has been entirely lost. This is what he did say:


We are thinking now we need to make our new stadium home and we know it will be tough in the beginning to settle there," he told a post-match news conference."

"I have a very clear idea of what we need to do. I don't know if the club will agree with me or not, but we are going to talk next week to create what I think we need to do together to improve."

"Until today it was so difficult to talk about the future, but from now we need to decide the way and how we are going to operate in the future."

"Our fans need to know what we are going to do and our fans need to feel the reality of the club and we need to tell the truth and create a very good expectation we can achieve. We cannot create dreams that we are not going to achieve."

"The first step is to be close and challenge the sides who invest more than us and find a way. We need to think our reality is different and our fans need to think and be happy and support us because we are not a club who will spend crazy money."

"I think Daniel is going to listen to me, but you know sometimes I might have some crazy ideas. With our unbelievable fans, sometimes you need to be brave and take risks. I think the club is in a moment where they need to take risks."
 

yankspurs

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I can watch you melt like an immature child who has a tantrum in a grocery store and laugh because you're making a fool of yourself, you don't know the difference between 'there' and 'they're,' and it's all funny to watch. But this "Get out of my club" garbage really grinds my gears.

What makes you think this club is any more yours than Levy's, or mine, or anyone else's for that matter? The club belongs to everyone and no one, but it certainly doesn't solely belong to a grown man who is acting like a spoilt brat.
Bsodl’s resorting to beating up on someone using poor grammar on a thread with nothing to do with grammar. You realize SC has its own thread dedicated to grammar(the opposing fans thread), yeah? Take your gripes with my poorous grammar to the grammar thread.
 

yankspurs

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Yep. Victor aside, that’s the same pic n’ mix bag of shite that the ITKs say is cockblocking our transfer activity because, surprise surprise, we no one wants to pay good money for pish.
And whose fault is it that those signings are fucking with us this window? Dear Leader’s.
 

Clamour_Kid

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People want to blame Levy and I get that. But take a look at this snippet from Poch’s book. Sometimes it’s easy to make a scapegoat out of the guy that pulls the purse strings, but there is always a story behind the perceived issues.

For me, there are no issues. There is simply too much pickiness (and rightly so) from Poch to ensure we don’t just sign anyone and also too much pickiness (and sometimes not rightly so) from Levy to ensure we get the best deal.

We need to support these 2 men because believe it or not, they know better than us how to run this football club.
 

wrd

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People want to blame Levy and I get that. But take a look at this snippet from Poch’s book. Sometimes it’s easy to make a scapegoat out of the guy that pulls the purse strings, but there is always a story behind the perceived issues.

For me, there are no issues. There is simply too much pickiness (and rightly so) from Poch to ensure we don’t just sign anyone and also too much pickiness (and sometimes not rightly so) from Levy to ensure we get the best deal.

We need to support these 2 men because believe it or not, they know better than us how to run this football club.

All well and good except his interview literally today completely undermines this snippet
 

wrd

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Help me out - which bit ?

Well I was being presumptuous in the sense that he's looking at it and and taking from it that they're working together on new signings. He said in the snippet he'd rather work with youth then what he said today was that to challenge you have to add to your team.

Edit - "Of course, football is all about adding more quality every season like our rivals are doing."
 

LeParisien

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Well I was being presumptuous in the sense that he's looking at it and and taking from it that they're working together on new signings. He said in the snippet he'd rather work with youth then what he said today was that to challenge you have to add to your team.
I think both the snippet from Poch’s book and his press conference earlier are consistent with the idea that there is no point buying players for the bench. Buy players good enough for the first team or use the academy.

Very sensible strategy and I back the club fully.

Edit: To respond to your edit ... as my previous post in this thread explains, signing players worthy of the first team is very, very difficult to do without being clever. I believe that is what we’re trying to do.
 

wrd

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I think both the snippet from Poch’s book and his press conference earlier are consistent with the idea that there is no point buying players for the bench. Buy players good enough for the first team or use the academy.

Very sensible strategy and I back the club fully.

I appreciate that part but I don't think anybody is getting annoyed at levy because he isn't adding another n'koudou
 

bc205

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And whose fault is it that those signings are fucking with us this window? Dear Leader’s.

Any evidence to back this up? Or are you just banging on with your fecking tedious anti-Levy agenda again?

Actually, wait, i think i already know the answer...
 

wrd

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I appreciate that part but I don't think anybody is getting annoyed at levy because he isn't adding another n'koudou

I mean this is just a loaded question, I know what I'd want but people are acting like we are either demanding superstars or asking him to sign just about anybody.
 

LeParisien

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I mean this is just a loaded question, I know what I'd want but people are acting like we are either demanding superstars or asking him to sign just about anybody.
Hang on... if the strategy is to only sign players for the first team then that means a very high calibre of player.

What sort of player would that be for you ?
 

wrd

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Hang on... if the strategy is to only sign players for the first team then that means a very high calibre of player.

What sort of player would that be for you ?

Well I wouldn't consider Zaha in the superstar calibre just yet, I think there's a deal there from the ITK it didn't sound like a 70 mill deal neither. I'd be looking at players like Diawara from Napoli who have also been linked with Aurier and I'd be keen on that and promoting KWP. Diawara hasn't made too many appearences for them so I don't think his fee would be astronomical. I'd be fairly happy with Grealish aslong as we didn't spunk a silly amount there way. as alternatives to Grealish I'd have been keen on Seri or Maddison who both went for a reasonable fee. I'd probably try and patch things up with Alder so we didn't need to spend on a cb but I wouldn't be in a rush to replace him if he was sold because Dier could drop back with Diawara coming in.

So there you go

Grealish
Diawara
Zaha

Whilst selling Aurier and Alder and then all the riff raff
Would you say that those 3 would bankrupt us? Because in my mind they're not superstars who would demand ridiculous fees
 

Johnny J

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People want to blame Levy and I get that. But take a look at this snippet from Poch’s book. Sometimes it’s easy to make a scapegoat out of the guy that pulls the purse strings, but there is always a story behind the perceived issues.

For me, there are no issues. There is simply too much pickiness (and rightly so) from Poch to ensure we don’t just sign anyone and also too much pickiness (and sometimes not rightly so) from Levy to ensure we get the best deal.

We need to support these 2 men because believe it or not, they know better than us how to run this football club.
I agree with your post, but there wasn't "too much pickiness" when it came to Sissoko. I'm sure he's a lovely guy but he is a woeful footballer.

And Poch's statement about preferring to play home grown kids than signing players doesn't hold up when it comes to KWP, who I refuse to believe wouldn't have done at least as well as Aurier last season. As for GKN, why not try Edwards?

I think Poch and Levy have been fantastic and I support them both, but some of the signings in the last couple of years have been far from picky.
 

Nebby

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I mean this is just a loaded question, I know what I'd want but people are acting like we are either demanding superstars or asking him to sign just about anybody.

Isn't that always the way? Once again, the idea of us signing nobody seems to have sent half of this forum (and the press) into a state of panic. Perhaps we already have a decent enough squad? Perhaps +£40m on Zaha (and over £100k per week salary), might not be such a good idea. Would he play every week? Is he that much better than what we already have? I'm really not convinced. Same goes for Grealish at possibly £20m. I can't help thinking that the days of buying domestic really are up. Or if you do, you do have to wait until the very last minute to drive some of these insane prices down. £22m for Son seems like unbelievably good business today. Imagine what the asking price would have been had he already been playing in the premiership.
 
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I agree with your post, but there wasn't "too much pickiness" when it came to Sissoko. I'm sure he's a lovely guy but he is a woeful footballer.

And Poch's statement about preferring to play home grown kids than signing players doesn't hold up when it comes to KWP, who I refuse to believe wouldn't have done at least as well as Aurier last season. As for GKN, why not try Edwards?

I think Poch and Levy have been fantastic and I support them both, but some of the signings in the last couple of years have been far from picky.

Just because they've not been successful, doesn't mean they weren't picky though.
 
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