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LexingtonSpurs

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The substitution was one thing. I cannot understand how, after getting scored on over and over in crucial moments from set pieces, why we continue to look so weak on set pieces. That's something that needed to be sorted out on the training ground after Watford. Very frustrating that Poch doesn't make this a point of emphasis when it's now conservatively cost us 2 points each in the league and in Europe.
They try, but at the training ground, the first defender always clears Eriksen's corners ....
 

rabbikeane

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We've made mistakes repeatedly at key moments during Poch's reign. That is not down to the summer window. He must take his share of the blame. That said he probably should leave us if he ever plan to win anything, cause he'll never become a winner here.
 

mrlilywhite

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The manager isn't the problem, it's the players & the fact we didn't bring in any quality to put pressure on those, so too many are becoming complacent.
For our current situation? Yes the manager is at fault, so are the board or not buying anyone. Poch has made errors with tactical choices that have cost us and it is happening at an alarming rate recently. If the players have become complacent, then that too is his fault, as it is his job to ensure it doesn't become a problem. Poch's biggest problem is persisting with a clearly out of form player in Kane. The catalyst for all this though is Levy's lack of desire to once again back the manager, ironically though I think it is exposing Poch's flaws even more.
 

Gareth88

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If he gets us Champions League football again this season the stadium should be named after him. This however will be a struggle and with no signings in the summer and the stadium not complete it will take all of his magic to keep us in the race for top 4 past December.
 

mrlilywhite

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Surely no-one believed him when he said he wasn't bothered by signing nobody?
Yeah that was club preservation of the highest order when he said that. At that point, I was like GTFO. Poch showed himself to be a true yes man. His integrity went down a huge amount when he said that.
 

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For our current situation? Yes the manager is at fault, so are the board or not buying anyone. Poch has made errors with tactical choices that have cost us and it is happening at an alarming rate recently. If the players have become complacent, then that too is his fault, as it is his job to ensure it doesn't become a problem. Poch's biggest problem is persisting with a clearly out of form player in Kane. The catalyst for all this though is Levy's lack of desire to once again back the manager, ironically though I think it is exposing Poch's flaws even more.

100% agree - Levy and Poch both to blame. Unfortunately, with the exception of Dele and Hugo coming back, it's not like we have a lot of options. It appears that a number of our best players have regressed - hence the reason why we needed to invest during the summer. But Levy obviously doesn't see it that way...
 

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100% agree - Levy and Poch both to blame. Unfortunately, with the exception of Dele and Hugo coming back, it's not like we have a lot of options. It appears that a number of our best players have regressed - hence the reason why we needed to invest during the summer. But Levy obviously doesn't see it that way...

We clearly needed to sell to buy.
TA, Rose, GKN, Jansen and Sissoko still being at the club meant the £100m+ of new fresh talent didn't come in.
 

mrlilywhite

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100% agree - Levy and Poch both to blame. Unfortunately, with the exception of Dele and Hugo coming back, it's not like we have a lot of options. It appears that a number of our best players have regressed - hence the reason why we needed to invest during the summer. But Levy obviously doesn't see it that way...

Levy will never see it that way - A businessman thinks profit first and Spurs stand to hand both Levy & Lewis a very tidy one at that, once they sell. Levy though needs CL football to sell the whole package. He has to make the club glamourous to a prospective buyer. What happened this summer was a classic owner misinterpretation of what the club wants and what it needs. I have no doubt money was there, but I honestly believe that the right amount of money wasn't - Did Levy fuck up? Yep massively. I would love to know the shortfall of stadium costs that have been covered by the lack of a naming rights deal that has come directly from the transfer kitty.

Either way, this season & potentially our short-term future will be defined by the stadium issues and "that" summer. In years to come, we will look back at this season and the shambles that is now unfolding and say "if only".
 

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It baffles me why after we played so poorly in that system against Liverpool he brought Winks on to go in with Dembele and Dier again. It wasn’t broke and it didn’t needing fixing.

That said, I think he’s extracted the absolute maximum out of this squad and there’s nothing more he can do to improve them as individuals.
 

nedley

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On the defensive in the post game presser. Claiming the press are disrespecting the players involved when asked whether he regrets not involving Trips and Tobes.

Shit is hitting the fan.
 

dagraham

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Surely no-one believed him when he said he wasn't bothered by signing nobody?

I don’t believe the players either. There may well be a bit of a general malaise about the place from both players and manager.

Still, Poch is not helping with some of his decisions so far. To be fair I was calling for Winks to come on because we needed a second goal to kill the game, spaces were opening up and I thought we could do with a better passer out there in the middle.

However I did not expect him to sub Lamela and effectively play Winks tucked in off the right. Poch seems to be over thinking things and his unusual tactical tinkering all seems to be going wrong at the moment.
 

Krule

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Only the most optimistic of optimists will be scratching their heads in disbelief and be genuinely surprised at tonight's result. Recent performances after the Utd game has given everyone cause for concern. There will be many conspiracy theories as to what the reason is but this is just my humble view

Pre transfer window I was on cloud nine as Poch strongly intimated that he had explained to Levy that the club could not just stand still and needed further player investment...and had apparently been given every assurance that his view was shared by Daniel and he would be allowed to bring in fresh blood.

When absolutely no transfers took place Poch looked both embarassed and bemused as he tried to brush it off and say he was happy with the squad he currently had. Many of us I think, were not convinced. I'm sure the top players were fully expecting some new arrivals whilst others were waiting for the sword to fall. What effect that had on team spirit we willl never know but it would hardly augur well for the upcoming season.
Whether or not this has affected the relationship between the two men can only be speculated upon but as in any family parental disharmony is immediately picked up on by the siblings and reflected in their behaviour. Could this be what we are now seeing in performances ??

At the end of last season the team ethos and morale was sky high...Spurs had enjoyed another great year and had CPL and a new ground to look forward to so what has changed ?....perhaps within that question lies the answer "nothing changed". When no new players arrived the pressure for places remained exactly the same as before, certain team members breathed a huge sigh of relief that they had escaped the bullet whilst others were allowed to assume they were automatic first team choices. The opportunity within such an environment for complacency to creep in is dramatically increased, there is a huge chasm of difference between playing and training to a recognised and accepted routine/system in comparison to sliding into a rut of monotony and boredom. The recent delays and uncertainty over the new ground has done little to inspire confidence in the management either.

I would never attempt to 'fake news' stories or give outlandish opinions about what is happening at the club but I do suspect this....something has definitely occurred which has affected Poch and his relationship with the people above him, in particular Daniel Levy. That is reflected in his interviews and will no doubt be passed down to the players in his change of manner/attitude.

I am by no means saying disaster looms or that a wheel has fallen off but the engine is certainly not 'ticking over' as it should. It's not all doom and gloom and I'm sure lost ground can be recovered. The middle ground that allows Poch to continue with his development plans whilst also allowing Levy to look at the balance sheets with a smile must be found and soon. Otherwise players will drift away seeking success and silverware with other clubs or the manager will become frustrated at having his hands tied and search the 'situations vacant' column.

If by the slightest of chances Mauricio and Daniel read the postings here then I have a message....
"Whatever the problem is get your heads together very soon and sort it before we drift back to the not so 'good old days'"
 
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whitesocks

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I can't say I'm too happy when he says we not only won't win anything this season but will not be competitive either. ~ We will not be contenders in anything.~
It is probably good analysis - we'll play some good football and be good to watch, but no trophies - we've been that way for a long time. But it sticks in my throat a little to write the season off when it has just begun.

I'll be watching the Brighton presser with interest, as journo's will surely raise this again. If he answers more conventionally, then maybe he didn't think through what he was saying. If he again writes the season off, then there is a problem. If he says we've never had it so good, then it really is the beginning of the end.
 

SPURSLIFE

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We clearly needed to sell to buy.
TA, Rose, GKN, Jansen and Sissoko still being at the club meant the £100m+ of new fresh talent didn't come in.
We didn't sell players because Levy asks to much money but only offers half for the players we want. He thinks he's a great weeler dealer but he's now considered a Joke. He has no interest in winning things just balancing books. I agree in what someone said on here that Poch went down in my estimation when he backed Levy and said we don't need new players. This season will probably turn out to be the worst in the last 5 or 6 years and Poch has been here for nearly 4 so what has happened to the 5 year plan. I just don't think he's a winner or a lucky manager and I certainly don't think his standing as a manager has gone up certainly not in the eyes of any of the top clubs in Europe. Not buying a top striker 2 seasons ago was a big mistake and we are paying for it now with Kane well off his game.
 

mrlilywhite

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It baffles me why after we played so poorly in that system against Liverpool he brought Winks on to go in with Dembele and Dier again. It wasn’t broke and it didn’t needing fixing.

That said, I think he’s extracted the absolute maximum out of this squad and there’s nothing more he can do to improve them as individuals.

I'm more concerned that he has extracted the maximum out of his tactical style and the system and has run out of ideas. That is more obvious to me than can't get any more out of the players to improve them.
 
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On the defensive in the post game presser. Claiming the press are disrespecting the players involved when asked whether he regrets not involving Trips and Tobes.

Shit is hitting the fan.

I think it's a fair point - it's disrespectful to Aurier and Sanchez to say Trippier and Alderweireld would have made a difference.
 
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