The Mauricio Pochettino thread

[tototoner]

anyone else listen to this guy on Talksport this morning

https://talksport.com/football/439797/tottenham-fan-howe-replace-pochettino-talksport-call/

Spurs fan calls for Eddie Howe to replace Mauricio Pochettino in amazing talkSPORT call

A Tottenham fan joined talkSPORT to express his belief that Mauricio Pochettino should leave Spurs.

Pochettino, the Argentine, has been installed as one of the favourites to succeed Julen Lopetegui as Real Madrid manager following the latter’s sacking on Monday night.

The former Southampton coach admitted earlier this week that he has never before been this unhappy at Tottenham, with the club’s stadium delays and transfer failures said to be frustrating him.

Defeat to Manchester City on Monday left the Lilywhites five points off top spot in the Premier League table, with many considering them lucky to be as high as they are given how disappointing their performances have been this season.

Spurs’ true struggles have shown up in Europe, with the north Londoners all but out the Champions League having failed to win any of their first three group stage matches.

Given everything Pochettino has done for Tottenham since his appointment as manager in 2014, support for the 46-year-old is almost universal amongst the club’s support.

However, there are dissenters within the crowds, including Spurs fans Charlie, who joined talkSPORT on Tuesday morning to express his belief that Pochettino should leave!

“I’m just not a big MoPo (sic) fan at Tottenham,” Charlie told the Alan Brazil Sports Breakfast.

“I think we reached our peak with him a couple of years ago when we lost out to Leicester, and I think since then we’ve gone backwards.

“Our style of football is not as attractive as it once was, and we don’t have the energy or enthusiasm we once had.

“Actually I think it would be good for Tottenham for him to go.

“He doesn’t have a plan B, I think he’s very arrogant, and he’s unproven.

“If he goes to Real Madrid he’ll get a bumper paycheck but he’ll be gone within two or three years.”

Asked who should replace Pochettino if he does depart north London, Charlie named another Premier League manager.

“I would take Eddie Howe if I’m honest with you,” he responded. “I’ve always been an admirer of Eddie Howe and I think he plays the type of football that is synonymous with Tottenham over the years.

“I genuinely think if he had the likes of Harry Kane, [Erik] Lamela and [Christian] Eriksen at his disposal we would be competing at a higher level.”

 

[Japhet]

anyone else listen to this guy on Talksport this morning

https://talksport.com/football/439797/tottenham-fan-howe-replace-pochettino-talksport-call/

Spurs fan calls for Eddie Howe to replace Mauricio Pochettino in amazing talkSPORT call

A Tottenham fan joined talkSPORT to express his belief that Mauricio Pochettino should leave Spurs.

Pochettino, the Argentine, has been installed as one of the favourites to succeed Julen Lopetegui as Real Madrid manager following the latter’s sacking on Monday night.

The former Southampton coach admitted earlier this week that he has never before been this unhappy at Tottenham, with the club’s stadium delays and transfer failures said to be frustrating him.

Defeat to Manchester City on Monday left the Lilywhites five points off top spot in the Premier League table, with many considering them lucky to be as high as they are given how disappointing their performances have been this season.

Spurs’ true struggles have shown up in Europe, with the north Londoners all but out the Champions League having failed to win any of their first three group stage matches.

Given everything Pochettino has done for Tottenham since his appointment as manager in 2014, support for the 46-year-old is almost universal amongst the club’s support.

However, there are dissenters within the crowds, including Spurs fans Charlie, who joined talkSPORT on Tuesday morning to express his belief that Pochettino should leave!

“I’m just not a big MoPo (sic) fan at Tottenham,” Charlie told the Alan Brazil Sports Breakfast.

“I think we reached our peak with him a couple of years ago when we lost out to Leicester, and I think since then we’ve gone backwards.

“Our style of football is not as attractive as it once was, and we don’t have the energy or enthusiasm we once had.

“Actually I think it would be good for Tottenham for him to go.

“He doesn’t have a plan B, I think he’s very arrogant, and he’s unproven.

“If he goes to Real Madrid he’ll get a bumper paycheck but he’ll be gone within two or three years.”

Asked who should replace Pochettino if he does depart north London, Charlie named another Premier League manager.

“I would take Eddie Howe if I’m honest with you,” he responded. “I’ve always been an admirer of Eddie Howe and I think he plays the type of football that is synonymous with Tottenham over the years.

“I genuinely think if he had the likes of Harry Kane, [Erik] Lamela and [Christian] Eriksen at his disposal we would be competing at a higher level.”

Talksport you say. How unlike them to dredge up some imbecile (probably a Gooner) to come out with a bunch of utter shite to get people phoning in.

 

[Cavehillspur]

“I think we reached our peak with him a couple of years ago when we lost out to Leicester, and I think since then we’ve gone backwards.

Yeah, went backwards by finishing higher the following season lol

 

[shelfboy68]

Talksport you say. How unlike them to dredge up some imbecile (probably a Gooner) to come out with a bunch of utter shite to get people phoning in.

How can anyone really want poch to leave if he goes that's bad for the club.

 

[Shadydan]

Obviously a troll

 

[Lighty64]

Just don't remember any kind of goodwill from the man towards fans in his time here. Increased ST prices massively and removed the cup games at the same time just an example - of course tickets prices need to increase over time I get that but he has never had the fans at the forefront of his thinking. His pricing for the new stadium is outrageous and shows what he thinks of the average fan and the way the club is refunding games by releasing the fees paid a just before each match is disgusting. Let me refund 1/19th and then charge you CAT A at Wembley.

he has done a hell of a lot for the community, might not of been as involved/seen as the Leicester chairman has.

the ST prices again, so he should of just kept the ST prices of the old stadium? did you complain the amount of times they where froze at the old Lane? agree about the cup games, he should of at least involved the domestic cups. at a guess you used to sit in the East Stand.

 

[Locotoro]

What has the fact that Levy’s salary was propped up by several years worth of bonus payments that he hadn’t taken got to do with the fact that Pochettino isn’t picking sides based on merit, is playing negative tactics and is failing to utilise a squad where he has two players per position (all but Foyth proven internationals)?

You also realise that levy doesn’t decide how much he is paid right? As a Ltd company, we’d be under investigation by the SFO if that were going on.

so what you're saying is that 6m was a one off sum including bonus payments and wasnt his annual salary?

 

[BringBack_leGin]

so what you're saying is that 6m was a one off sum including bonus payments and wasnt his annual salary?

Yes. But that doesn’t make for a sexy story.

Not just backdated bonus but also backdated payrise. And the bonus was largely linked to the increase in turnover as well as the stadium project which, even with delays, has been a blinder on Levy’s part when you consider the hurdles that had to be overcome. I remember when we were mooted to move to Pickett’s Lock.

 

[hakano]

he has done a hell of a lot for the community, might not of been as involved/seen as the Leicester chairman has.

the ST prices again, so he should of just kept the ST prices of the old stadium? did you complain the amount of times they where froze at the old Lane? agree about the cup games, he should of at least involved the domestic cups. at a guess you used to sit in the East Stand.

I'm not East stand and I am ok, even managed to get my 5 yr old son his first ST. I do know many however who have had to stretch themselves financially and that should not be the case to support their club. I have no issue with charging premium prices for the premium seats but the general fan base should not be seen as an opportunity to shaft. He has little consideration for the fan base, the 1882 across the South Stand shows it is all about money for the man whichever way he peddles it. The way the club have since alienated it's supporters particularly the ST holders is shocking to say the least. Why do we now have to wait for our refunds to be paid in instalments for the matches until the New Year?

 

[Locotoro]

Yes. But that doesn’t make for a sexy story.

Not just backdated bonus but also backdated payrise. And the bonus was largely linked to the increase in turnover as well as the stadium project which, even with delays, has been a blinder on Levy’s part when you consider the hurdles that had to be overcome. I remember when we were mooted to move to Pickett’s Lock.

So do we know what he's actually on?

 

[Lighty64]

I'm not East stand and I am ok, even managed to get my 5 yr old son his first ST. I do know many however who have had to stretch themselves financially and that should not be the case to support their club. I have no issue with charging premium prices for the premium seats but the general fan base should not be seen as an opportunity to shaft. He has little consideration for the fan base, the 1882 across the South Stand shows it is all about money for the man whichever way he peddles it. The way the club have since alienated it's supporters particularly the ST holders is shocking to say the least. Why do we now have to wait for our refunds to be paid in instalments for the matches until the New Year?

oh totally agree with the refunds, they should of done each batch they knew where not going to be at the NWHL, but every decision is made by the club board and that's more than just Levy. I do agree the 1882 might not be best situated in the South stand, but because they might be richer it doesn't mean they will show less passion.

the ones biggest hit for increases was the East stand, who are now on par with the West for facilities and view. The East stand was always cheaper though compared to the West, and the facilities where not that different, possibly a bigger bar, but the East paid not far short half the price compared, and a lot of them never suffered restricted views or was very minimal.

a lot of the moaners are people that have only had a ticket for 1 season at Wembley, how they every expected them to be at the same level I don't know. if they had decreased the East to not make it as steep, it would of meant some would of got the West at the same as before.

 

[BringBack_leGin]

So do we know what he's actually on?

£2.8m the previous year.

That’s £700k less than Sissoko.

 

[ernie78]

I don’t think anyone has suggested or even implied that we’d not suffer without Pochettino, merely pointed out that he is a big part of our curren poor performances too.

Levy didn’t go three at the back and no DM v Watford a few days after trouncing Man Utd at Old Trafford, Levy didn’t pick a midfield of one paced bruisers against Guardiola’s slick City side and Levy isn’t the one refusing to run a meritocratic selection policy. If Pochettino is worried about how things are going at the moment, maybe he needs to think less about facets not in his control and focus on what is within his power to affect, I.e. his own performance. He has been our best manager in the premier league but that doesn’t mean he’s blameless when he has the squad available to produce better than it is and yet somehow it doesn’t happen. He has enough banked gooodwill to have a bad season, but if he isn’t able to handle the current rigours thrown at him and come out a better manager, then he’s not cut out for Madrid, Utd etc anyway.

Levy fucked up badly this summer, we needed to rejuvenate a squad that had been flogged for 4 years, but Pochettino loses the right to complain about that while he is still making such glaring errors.

I feel that if Levy isn’t going to back Poch when he has got a core of young players achieving CL 3 times in a row then he’ll never back any manager fully. Levy has had the perfect set up with a young hungry manager and young hungry players. I don’t think this will come round again under DL’d tenure if DL messes it up. Why would a manager come if you know you’re going to be hamstrung

 

[phil]

£2.8m the previous year.

That’s £700k less than Sissoko.

But still the highest pay of any PL chairmen

 

[Seafordian Spurs]

It's a perfect shit storm at the moment but we'll still be up there (er, 4th) by the end of the season I think.

 

[Japhet]

I feel that if Levy isn’t going to back Poch when he has got a core of young players achieving CL 3 times in a row then he’ll never back any manager fully. Levy has had the perfect set up with a young hungry manager and young hungry players. I don’t think this will come round again under DL’d tenure if DL messes it up. Why would a manager come if you know you’re going to be hamstrung

The whole time Poch has been here we've had the issue of funding the stadium construction. That has a massive effect on available funds.

 

[hakano]

£2.8m the previous year.

That’s £700k less than Sissoko.

I hope you're not paying for your ST and Levy has it covered as part of your deal

Oops, forgot this was the Poch thread.

 

[BringBack_leGin]

I feel that if Levy isn’t going to back Poch when he has got a core of young players achieving CL 3 times in a row then he’ll never back any manager fully. Levy has had the perfect set up with a young hungry manager and young hungry players. I don’t think this will come round again under DL’d tenure if DL messes it up. Why would a manager come if you know you’re going to be hamstrung

Why do managers take the Madrid job knowing that any less than a league and CL double puts their job under threat?

But still the highest pay of any PL chairmen

Man UTD and Man C do t disclose their directors earnings, Arsenal’s director for the same year earned £2.6k, Liverpool’s is just under £1m when they’ve finished below us every season bar 1 since 2010 and Chelsea’s directors combined earn barely £300k because none of them have that much to do due to Abramovic’s overall control.

Levy is the only Chairman who, without a bottomless pit of cash, has grown a club from relative obscurity to one of the richest in the world, grown a club from mid table toCL regulars and all the while (almost) delivered a new stadium, on the original site, and none of it done with throwing money at it.

To THFC the company levy is worth his weight in gold because the few million he gets paid is saving the company tens of millions, of not hundreds of millions, that other clubs are pissing away.

I hope you're not paying for your ST and Levy has it covered as part of your deal

Oops, forgot this was the Poch thread.

Unfortunately I couldn’t stay away, I’m too impetuous for my own good and my tolerance for what I disagree with is sadly very low.

 

[bubble07]

never worried about him leaving before, but I am worried now, and not about Real Madrid, who I never thought he was suited to in any case.

It's Man U in the summer after the Mourinho leaves that has me a little on edge.

Genuinely can't see why United wouldn't want him after their next failed manager. Poch will have so much regret and what ifs if he left now or end of season

 

[daryl hannah]

If I was poch and I did leave in the summer, I'd have a good 6-8 months off football. Like getting over an Ex. Recover from the trauma.