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Mr Pink

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It was the best centre back partnership in 15/16 and 16/17 but is it now? Alderweireld has done fairly well this year but he hasn't been imperious and Vertonghen was the one who gave a needless penalty away and got sent off. You can set the team up how you want but if your experienced players make stupid mistakes then there isn't much you can do.

Eh... had we started our best CB partnership I really doubt the game would of finished 4-2 with Vertonghen being sent off.

We'll never know how it would of panned out, but you pick your best and experienced defense for a game of this magnitude, simple as that imo.
 

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Well if that's the case I'm surprised he was even on the bench.
I only found out about hour ago. Also got told there was 2 players out there who had to play because of numbers. Winks has to be carefully managed due to his ankles.
 

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That doesn't get brought up as much because its several months past, but it bit us in the ass again today. We needed reinforcements in the summer and we didn't get them.
Yep agree - we need to look at what we haven't done off the pitch with regards to transfers. This first half of the season has seen us compete reasonably well on an uneven playing field (all our own doing mind).
 

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I only found out about hour ago. Also got told there was 2 players out there who had to play because of numbers. Winks has to be carefully managed due to his ankles.

You expect many changes for Southampton? Was good to see Rose back
 

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Eh... had we started our best CB partnership I really doubt the game would of finished 4-2 with Vertonghen being sent off.

We'll never know how it would of panned out, but you pick your best and experienced defense for a game of this magnitude, simple as that imo.

Well I think you could make an argument that it wouldn't have been our best centre back partnership considering Vertonghen has had a lengthy lay off and need games to get back to speed.
 

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I only found out about hour ago. Also got told there was 2 players out there who had to play because of numbers. Winks has to be carefully managed due to his ankles.
This is why we need another starting level CM, not just Skipp, Onomah, Amos like I see touted around here.
 

Mr Pink

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Well I think you could make an argument that it wouldn't have been our best centre back partnership considering Vertonghen has had a lengthy lay off and need games to get back to speed.

Nah, experience alone makes it our best by a distance, unless they're definitely not fit to play.
 

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Nah, experience alone makes it our best by a distance, unless they're definitely not fit to play.

I don't think Vertonghen showed his experience today. In fact, his handball in the area was really poor considering he is the experienced one.
 

Mr Pink

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I don't think Vertonghen showed his experience today. In fact, his handball in the area was really poor considering he is the experienced one.

A mistake, but how often do you see that from him, very rare.

Still doesnt change the fact that the two of them are a fantastic partnership and vastly experienced.

Maybe he doesn't make that mistake today if Toby is partnering him, and we're not as panicked as a unit, that's the point.
 

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A mistake, but how often do you see that from him, very rare.

Still doesnt change the fact that the two of them are a fantastic partnership and vastly experienced.

Maybe he doesn't make that mistake today if Toby is partnering him, and we're not as panicked as a unit, that's the point.

They are a superb parternship but I don't think we lost because Foyth was playing at centre back. We didn't look up for it for most of the game, our experienced players made silly mistakes and we didn't look like scoring in the second half.
 

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They are a superb parternship but I don't think we lost because Foyth was playing at centre back. We didn't look up for it for most of the game, our experienced players made silly mistakes and we didn't look like scoring in the second half.
I think you're vastly underrating the calming presence and leadership on the field that the Toby + Jan duo brings.
 

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I think you're vastly underrating the calming presence and leadership on the field that the Toby + Jan duo brings.

Well it isn't like we have never shipped loads of goals when Vertonghen and Alderweireld have played together. They are a great pair and you could have played them together but it wasn't the reason we lost today.
 

Mr Pink

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They are a superb parternship but I don't think we lost because Foyth was playing at centre back. We didn't look up for it for most of the game, our experienced players made silly mistakes and we didn't look like scoring in the second half.

I don't know what would have happened, the point I'm making is that our best CB partnership would of given us more of a chance though, the tone was set early and we looked so open and cagey at the back.

If Toby could of played, he should of done instead of young Foyth.
 

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It's highly doubtful in my eyes that TA will sign a new contract hence the decision to truly give the CB spot to JF today , especially when the team was on a really good run.
We lost yes but not because of this.
 

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Well it isn't like we have never shipped loads of goals when Vertonghen and Alderweireld have played together. They are a great pair and you could have played them together but it wasn't the reason we lost today.
We actually haven't. The only time Toby & Jan have played together and we had more than 2 goals scored on us was the Chelsea semi final where we played Son as a wingback giving up a penalty and a Matic fucking missile.
 
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