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Shadydan

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Watching us play is so boring
Poch needs to switch things up, we can’t play like this all season

Idgaf

We are winning that's all that matters, as long as we win I don't care. With all the business that went on or didn't go on in the summer we just need to get through this season to refresh ourselves IMO, seems like this season is really a transition season and I hate using that word but we're really at a watershed moment with this team.
 

shelfboy68

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You would like to think that some changes will be made in the summer because it does seem that the life cycle of the current team has peaked previously and now we are limping along a bit, all good news that we are 3rd and still in the hunt for a CL position considering no freshen up of the squad during pre season.
 

tototoner

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Yeap, Neil Ashton

Probably the most anti Tottenham hack out there

https://www.thesun.co.uk/sport/football/7919513/mauricio-pochettino-man-utd-jose-mourinho-40m/

Manchester United want to land Mauricio Pochettino but it will cost them £40m to get the Spurs boss

Red Devils won't have to pay out much compensation if Jose Mourinho misses out on top four and Old Trafford chiefs are desperate to land Pochettino as his replacement

EXCLUSIVE
By Neil Ashton
6th December 2018, 10:00 pm
Updated: 6th December 2018, 11:35 pm

MANCHESTER UNITED are prepared to fork out up to £40million to make Mauricio Pochettino their next boss.

The Old Trafford hierarchy have decided the Tottenham boss is the ONLY contender to replace Jose Mourinho next summer

And a clause in Mourinho’s contract means it will cost United less to sack the Portuguese if they are not in the Champions League.

United face a battle with Real Madrid over Poch, 46. But, despite the current turmoil, they believe they can sell the Red Devils as the more attractive proposition.

Spurs chairman Daniel Levy, who sold Michael Carrick and Dimitar Berbatov to United on his watch, faces a huge battle to keep his manager.

Poch is determined to lead Spurs into their new stadium in the new year and signed a five-year, £8m-a-season deal only last summer.

Plus, he turned down United in 2016 when they fired Louis van Gaal. But that has not put off Woodward.

United are a staggering 18 points behind Premier League leaders Manchester City and knows he is on borrowed time at Old Trafford.

Spurs have finished in the top four in three successive seasons under Poch, who joined them from Southampton in 2014.

But the Argentine is also frustrated with lack of investment at Tottenham — who were the only Prem club NOT to sign a player in the summer — and he has spoken many times about the need for fresh blood.
 
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spurs9

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Without wishing to repeat myself I published a stat earlier in here that was valid in Jan 2018. Poch had made 99 substitutions and the total result from those was one goal and one assist. Speaks volumes about the depth of squad I feel.
Yes and no. It does raise questions about the depth of the squad but also raises the questions "Are the most effective/correct subs being made" and "Are the subs made with enough time to make an impact".

Personally, I think in game management is Poch's biggest flaw.
 

spurs9

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Yeap, Neil Ashton

Probably the most anti Tottenham hack out there

https://www.thesun.co.uk/sport/football/7919513/mauricio-pochettino-man-utd-jose-mourinho-40m/

Manchester United want to land Mauricio Pochettino but it will cost them £40m to get the Spurs boss

Red Devils won't have to pay out much compensation if Jose Mourinho misses out on top four and Old Trafford chiefs are desperate to land Pochettino as his replacement

EXCLUSIVE
By Neil Ashton
6th December 2018, 10:00 pm
Updated: 6th December 2018, 11:35 pm

MANCHESTER UNITED are prepared to fork out up to £40million to make Mauricio Pochettino their next boss.

The Old Trafford hierarchy have decided the Tottenham boss is the ONLY contender to replace Jose Mourinho next summer

And a clause in Mourinho’s contract means it will cost United less to sack the Portuguese if they are not in the Champions League.

United face a battle with Real Madrid over Poch, 46. But, despite the current turmoil, they believe they can sell the Red Devils as the more attractive proposition.

Spurs chairman Daniel Levy, who sold Michael Carrick and Dimitar Berbatov to United on his watch, faces a huge battle to keep his manager.

Poch is determined to lead Spurs into their new stadium in the new year and signed a five-year, £8m-a-season deal only last summer.

Plus, he turned down United in 2016 when they fired Louis van Gaal. But that has not put off Woodward.

United are a staggering 18 points behind Premier League leaders Manchester City and knows he is on borrowed time at Old Trafford.

Spurs have finished in the top four in three successive seasons under Poch, who joined them from Southampton in 2014.

But the Argentine is also frustrated with lack of investment at Tottenham — who were the only Prem club NOT to sign a player in the summer — and he has spoken many times about the need for fresh blood.
They can fuck right off.
 

blackburn

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Yes and no. It does raise questions about the depth of the squad but also raises the questions "Are the most effective/correct subs being made" and "Are the subs made with enough time to make an impact".

Personally, I think in game management is Poch's biggest flaw.

I agree but think it's also harsh, very rarely do we have game changers on the bench.

To me Poch is a coach, the improvement he gets out of players is phenomenal which is why I'd love to see him work with an upgrade on Aurier, Sissoko, Wanyama etc. The reality is if Spurs don't give him that opportunity Utd or Madrid will.
 

spurs9

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I agree but think it's also harsh, very rarely do we have game changers on the bench.

To me Poch is a coach, the improvement he gets out of players is phenomenal which is why I'd love to see him work with an upgrade on Aurier, Sissoko, Wanyama etc. The reality is if Spurs don't give him that opportunity Utd or Madrid will.
Son has been on the bench 5 times this season and has never been subbed on before to the 70th minute and we lost 2 of those games by a single goal, so whilst quality on the bench is a factor, it's no excuse.
 

Gareth88

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Yeap, Neil Ashton

Probably the most anti Tottenham hack out there

https://www.thesun.co.uk/sport/football/7919513/mauricio-pochettino-man-utd-jose-mourinho-40m/

Manchester United want to land Mauricio Pochettino but it will cost them £40m to get the Spurs boss

Red Devils won't have to pay out much compensation if Jose Mourinho misses out on top four and Old Trafford chiefs are desperate to land Pochettino as his replacement

EXCLUSIVE
By Neil Ashton
6th December 2018, 10:00 pm
Updated: 6th December 2018, 11:35 pm

MANCHESTER UNITED are prepared to fork out up to £40million to make Mauricio Pochettino their next boss.

The Old Trafford hierarchy have decided the Tottenham boss is the ONLY contender to replace Jose Mourinho next summer

And a clause in Mourinho’s contract means it will cost United less to sack the Portuguese if they are not in the Champions League.

United face a battle with Real Madrid over Poch, 46. But, despite the current turmoil, they believe they can sell the Red Devils as the more attractive proposition.

Spurs chairman Daniel Levy, who sold Michael Carrick and Dimitar Berbatov to United on his watch, faces a huge battle to keep his manager.

Poch is determined to lead Spurs into their new stadium in the new year and signed a five-year, £8m-a-season deal only last summer.

Plus, he turned down United in 2016 when they fired Louis van Gaal. But that has not put off Woodward.

United are a staggering 18 points behind Premier League leaders Manchester City and knows he is on borrowed time at Old Trafford.

Spurs have finished in the top four in three successive seasons under Poch, who joined them from Southampton in 2014.

But the Argentine is also frustrated with lack of investment at Tottenham — who were the only Prem club NOT to sign a player in the summer — and he has spoken many times about the need for fresh blood.
Why would he move to a club lower in the league, where he would have less control that he has now and a defence that is in a shambles. He’s staying
 

hellava_tough

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Why would he move to a club lower in the league, where he would have less control that he has now and a defence that is in a shambles. He’s staying

Let's face it, if Utd were willing to pay the massive compensation fee, they'd also be paying Poch a much higher salary than us and probably give him £500m over 2 or 3 seasons to rebuild with. Basically, they'd go all in and stump up the cash. It's a massive club and it'd be a huge draw for any manager.

There are a couple of question marks for me though...

1) Would Poch want to go there now, or would he want to spend a couple more seasons with his 'project' to see if he could win something?

2) Speaking of 'winning something', would the Man Utd board prefer to go for a tried and tested winner (like Conte or whoever)? Would they take a (admittedly small) risk on Poch?

3) What are the finances like at Utd? They were a bit underwhelming in the transfer market this summer, but that may have been because they didn't trust Jose. However, it could also mean that they don't want to spend literally hundreds of millions to rebuild. If they want Poch, they're going to have to sink £30m to £40m into a compensation package, commit to paying him £10m+ a season (plus bonuses) and potentially give assurances that they'll spend big for a squad overhaul. Do they want to do this?

So a few things to consider.
 

spurs9

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Why would he move to a club lower in the league, where he would have less control that he has now and a defence that is in a shambles. He’s staying
Perhaps they are willing to bring in the level of players we won't.
 

spursfan77

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Idgaf

We are winning that's all that matters, as long as we win I don't care. With all the business that went on or didn't go on in the summer we just need to get through this season to refresh ourselves IMO, seems like this season is really a transition season and I hate using that word but we're really at a watershed moment with this team.

Yeah that’s what I’m thinking. It was neatly summed up in a WhatsApp conversation between me and a gooner mate on Monday morning.

He texted “you’ve had your 3 years in the sun, it’s time to move over”.

I wrote back “we haven’t even got our trunks on yet” and sent this photo of the internal part of the stadium.

No response back. Other teams are scared of us, make no mistake about it, and I really don’t think we’ve even begun.

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danielneeds

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I’m not worried by ManU. Madrid is the club I think could tempt him away, not ManU.
I actually think it’s the reverse. Madrid managers don’t get longer than two years, whereas United are looking for a long term manager. Every Mourinho, who’s been stinking out the place, has got three years.
 

danielneeds

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Yeap, Neil Ashton

Probably the most anti Tottenham hack out there

https://www.thesun.co.uk/sport/football/7919513/mauricio-pochettino-man-utd-jose-mourinho-40m/

Manchester United want to land Mauricio Pochettino but it will cost them £40m to get the Spurs boss

Red Devils won't have to pay out much compensation if Jose Mourinho misses out on top four and Old Trafford chiefs are desperate to land Pochettino as his replacement

EXCLUSIVE
By Neil Ashton
6th December 2018, 10:00 pm
Updated: 6th December 2018, 11:35 pm

MANCHESTER UNITED are prepared to fork out up to £40million to make Mauricio Pochettino their next boss.

The Old Trafford hierarchy have decided the Tottenham boss is the ONLY contender to replace Jose Mourinho next summer

And a clause in Mourinho’s contract means it will cost United less to sack the Portuguese if they are not in the Champions League.

United face a battle with Real Madrid over Poch, 46. But, despite the current turmoil, they believe they can sell the Red Devils as the more attractive proposition.

Spurs chairman Daniel Levy, who sold Michael Carrick and Dimitar Berbatov to United on his watch, faces a huge battle to keep his manager.

Poch is determined to lead Spurs into their new stadium in the new year and signed a five-year, £8m-a-season deal only last summer.

Plus, he turned down United in 2016 when they fired Louis van Gaal. But that has not put off Woodward.

United are a staggering 18 points behind Premier League leaders Manchester City and knows he is on borrowed time at Old Trafford.

Spurs have finished in the top four in three successive seasons under Poch, who joined them from Southampton in 2014.

But the Argentine is also frustrated with lack of investment at Tottenham — who were the only Prem club NOT to sign a player in the summer — and he has spoken many times about the need for fresh blood.

Pretty sure Ashton said he was the “only choice” for Real too.

I don’t blame this guy, he’s such a cynical, twisted hack he can’t possibly believe that someone would value things like honour, trust, and purpose over money.
 

Mate

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Pretty sure Ashton said he was the “only choice” for Real too.

I don’t blame this guy, he’s such a cynical, twisted hack he can’t possibly believe that someone would value things like honour, trust, and purpose over money.

Not worried in the slightest by Utd (or even RM). People should be more focused on Poch's actual quotes from last week, hinting his desire to manage in Italy. He holds the Italian culture in high regard due to his ancestral roots and even referred to it feeling like home when we he was interviewed ahead of last season's game vs Juventus.

I genuinely think this is where his next job will be.

https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/www....hettino-reveals-ambition-to-manage-in-serie-a

Mauricio Pochettino says it would be a "wonderful experience" to manage in Italy in the future, but has insisted he is currently happy at Tottenham and targeted winning the Premier League title in the club's new stadium.

The Argentine signed a new five-year contract in May and has since guided Tottenham to their best start to a Premier League season, having won 10 of their opening 13 matches which has left them in third place.
Ahead of Wednesday's crucial Champions League group match against Inter Milan on Wednesday, Pochettino admitted his ambition to one day manage in Serie A as well as take charge of the Argentina national team.

"My contract expires in four-and-a-half years - if [Spurs chairman Daniel] Levy does not fire me first," Pochettino told Gazzetta dello Sport.
"Seriously, today I see myself here. I dream of winning a trophy with Tottenham, maybe the Premier League in our new stadium.

Pochettino has guided Tottenham to their best-ever start to a Premier League season

"In the future to also manage the Argentine team is my desire.

"The important thing is to be happy and I am right now. Me in Serie A? I have Italian origins and it would be a wonderful experience."

He added: "Argentines and Italians are very similar, for the way we live life and for our passion for football. Clearly [to work in Italy] I would need to have a better grasp of Italian, as language is fundamental to communicate with players.

"I remember that my grandfather would speak to me quite often in Italian but I was quite young. I'd need to do a bit of practice before moving to Italy.

"Years ago there were contacts with Sampdoria. I was at Espanyol, they showed an interest but then nothing happened."
 
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olliec

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The good thing is Pochettino is still very young and has time on his hand. So he doesn’t have to be falsed or rushed into anything at the moment. We all know he’s very happy at us, but Levy needs to back him in the summer to show our ambition!
 
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