The Mauricio Pochettino thread

[Trix]

There's a lot of optimistic posts in here, yeah Poch (apparently) turned down Madrid (after he signed a new contract and was probably promised money for transfers).

But the UTD job is taylormade for him, while I hope he stays and wins us titles if he feels he's taken us as far as he can with the current backing from the board then he'll go.

The money was there for transfers mate the players Pochs wanted were unobtainable for various reasons. He didn't want to spend what money was available on players he didn't really want.

 

[Scissors&Tape]

Yes Poch is ambitious, but I don't think the worry worts quite get the scale of his ambition. It is not to merely join a historic team, it is to create one. He is on the cusp of doing so here. Why quit now?

 

[wrd]

I was pretty blunt with my United sporting mates, they said well we have more resource than you, to which I replied that United could give Poch 400 million next summer and that wouldn't get close to the current SQUAD that spurs have now. Where they finding their Harry Kane, their Dele Alli, their Sissoko. we have a squad of OVER 25 that all play their part, United have about 6 players who would get into our squad. Fuck their resources argument even if Poch was given fuck all by Levy for the next 2 seasons they will not get close to what we have. That's before we discuss the new training ground, the stadium and the cheese room.

 

[THX2208]

Sure it's been mentioned already, but isn't it funny how as soon as the United job becomes free the fact that Poch hasn't won anything suddenly disappears as a criticism!

Poch is a fantastic manager so there will always be stories linking him away. This will all have simmered down by January and will emerge again next Summer. Rinse and repeat.

Thats actually a really good observation. Tottenham & Poch being hammered for winning the square root of feck all and now suddenly that doesn't matter as contrary to what everyone was saying before he has actually been a really successful Tottenham Manager. Fecking English journalists and pundits are a complete and utter joke. If Poch does go to United and fails they'll just do a 360 and say he achieved noting at Spurs but as we sit now according to all of them he is the most successful Manager in the World. Christ almighty the Premier League is like a fecking Soap Oprah along the lines of Eastenders ???

 

[shelfboy68]

I think it's down to Levy whether he stays or goes. Poch is ambitious and wants to win things and to do so, investing in the team and infrastructure is required. We are ahead in the latter with training ground, stadium etc but not former.

Also, we predominantly have young, hungry players who are willing to learn which he has moulded, whereas some of theirs do seem like prima donnas who down tools if they don't like what they hear, similar to when he started with us. Would he want to start again and would Utd ?

I'm hoping he sees this and realises he is actually closer to achieving things with us. He just needs to be backed in the transfer market. Liverpool are only 6 points ahead but spent £150m over the summer plus £75m on VVD in Jan. If we had invested half of that, then the gap would be smaller or we'd be ahead.

Levy is not dumb and must realise a bit of investment is needed and will back Poch who in turn will realise that he will fulfill his dreams quicker with us. That's what I hope anyway. We wouldn't be anywhere without Poch and it's only in the past few years when I've actually felt that we are one of the big boys albeit with a smaller wallet.

I think we need to start the openthewalletLevyforPoch# movement!

Very true but whilst levy is not dumb he also will not throw or invest money that heavy into the team it's just not his MO so some people will be left dissapointed.

 

[THX2208]

I was pretty blunt with my United sporting mates, they said well we have more resource than you, to which I replied that United could give Poch 400 million next summer and that wouldn't get close to the current SQUAD that spurs have now. Where they finding their Harry Kane, their Dele Alli, their Sissoko. we have a squad of OVER 25 that all play their part, United have about 6 players who would get into our squad. Fuck their resources argument even if Poch was given fuck all by Levy for the next 2 seasons they will not get close to what we have. That's before we discuss the new training ground, the stadium and the cheese room.

Don't get me started on Man Utd fans. I'm at hospital today and there is one old fecker lecturing a crowd of his peers about the greatness of Manchester United and why the New Spurs Stadium means bugger all. I honestly don't know how much more I can actually listen to this nonsense for ???

 

[Dillspur]

The money was there for transfers mate the players Pochs wanted were unobtainable for various reasons. He didn't want to spend what money was available on players he didn't really want.

Fair enough, but would they be obtainable if he was at UTD?

 

[ChristianBaler]

There's a lot of optimistic posts in here, yeah Poch (apparently) turned down Madrid (after he signed a new contract and was probably promised money for transfers).

But the UTD job is taylormade for him, while I hope he stays and wins us titles if he feels he's taken us as far as he can with the current backing from the board then he'll go.

How would the job suit him?

He's a manager who looking at his time at Spurs wants to and likes to build up his "project". The "project" that would be United would be an absolute nightmare for him. Woodward went over the head of Mourinho with the recruitment of players, Poch wouldnt be up for that.

Also, given the fact that Poch has yet to win something the pressure on him from the start wouldn't be attractive to him. Sure, he's due to win something soon however the expectation levels at United would put him off of it.

 

[SugarRay]

I love Poch. I think he might love us. Those saying he needs to be given huge transfer funds etc...
He deserves the chance to buy whoever he wants and what we can get but would we all have complete faith in his purchases? He takes brawn and graft over brain and technique by and large.

 

[dtxspurs]

I love Poch. I think he might love us. Those saying he needs to be given huge transfer funds etc...
He deserves the chance to buy whoever he wants and what we can get but would we all have complete faith in his purchases? He takes brawn and graft over brain and technique by and large.

I'm not sure thats completely true. The CM's we've been rumored to be after the last few years have all been more technical players. Rabiot, Gomes, Isco, Kovacic, De Jong, Ndombele, Barkley etc.

 

[degoose]

People should remember that it is not only Poch but his whole staff team. They are a unit and go together and from what i see with Poch he takes all of their input on board. I don't think it just his decision. Plus you know you would have to move to Manchester which is a miserable dump of a place.

 

[JCRD]

She also thinks we're a 'proper bottle jobe' though so she would probably love to see Poch at Utd.

One thing is for sure though, she wont think im a bottle job - mark my words... Im gonna produce and perform for Tottenham Hotspur FC

 

[THFCjosh]

There's a lot of optimistic posts in here, yeah Poch (apparently) turned down Madrid (after he signed a new contract and was probably promised money for transfers).

But the UTD job is taylormade for him, while I hope he stays and wins us titles if he feels he's taken us as far as he can with the current backing from the board then he'll go.

Is it though? I'm not sure it is. It's a big team full of overpaid egos as it stands, it was hard enough for Poch to get rid of our averagely paid egos when he first got here, he's going to find it harder to get rid at United. Then there's the whole starting the project from scratch again, I'm just not sure it is tailor made.

 

[Dillspur]

How would the job suit him?

He's a manager who looking at his time at Spurs wants to and likes to build up his "project". The "project" that would be United would be an absolute nightmare for him. Woodward went over the head of Mourinho with the recruitment of players, Poch wouldnt be up for that.

Also, given the fact that Poch has yet to win something the pressure on him from the start wouldn't be attractive to him. Sure, he's due to win something soon however the expectation levels at United would put him off of it.

Really?? UTD have a history of promoting players through their academy, this has been forgotten over the last few years, they also had a history of buying the best young talent and nurturing it, again this has been forgotten. He will also be given time by the fans because of the way he acts and how he sets his teams up

 

[Archibald&Crooks]

My tenner has Skybet shitting themselves, Steve Bruce has come in to 40/1

 

[robertgoulet]

I have accepted the fact that Poch will, on his own accord, leave at some point. The only clubs I can see him leaving for are Man U, Real Madrid, PSG, and Juve..so any time one of those open up I'll be nervous. Until Man U announces their next manager and it's not Poch I will be concerned, regardless of what he says. Things change. Offers change. Guaranties change. If he goes, he goes. I just hate that the rumors will persist until Man U does or doesn't hire him.

I will be sad to see him leave when he does, but I also acknowledge that we are in a much better spot for hiring a replacement now than we would have been even a year ago. We are now probably a top 10 club in the world. Read that again. TOTTENHAM F*CKING HOTSPUR IS ARGUABLY ONE OF THE TOP 10 CLUBS IN THE WORLD. We should have our pick of nearly any manager we want. What a world Poch has built for us.

 

[SirHarryHotspur]

If we refuse to agree compensation, what happens then? If he actually says he wants to go I don't think there's much we can do.

If parties cannot agree on compensation for buying out a contract then the dispute will be settled by The Court of Arbitration For Sport http://www.tas-cas.org/en/index.html , don't worry he is not going to Utd , he could have gone to the world's biggest club Real Madrid but he didn't and unless Daniel wants to cash in he is staying.

PS It's not just the contract of Poch that Utd would have to pay compensation on there is also Jesus , Miguel & Toni to consider.

 

[THX2208]

If he wants to leave i hope Levy let him - Poch deserves to decide this himself imo and why keep a manager that have his mind else where.

Worst case scenario we get a huge compensation and hire som other fucker.

100% on the money. I'd rather he just come out and put his cards on the table because this speculation is not going to stop. Its being driven by Sky TV and it won't stop anytime soon. In fact its just going to get worse as everything Poch does now will be "Breaking News" on Sky Sports News. They will not be happy until they completely derail our season and Poch needs to have a set of marbles and come straight out with how he is actually feeling. At the end of the day its everyone on here that pays his wages with our Season Tickets and Memberships. The Club is bigger than Poch and Levy as once they are both gone we will all still be here digging into our pockets to watch our Football Club!

 

[bat-chain]

Working at Man Utd would mean trying to destroy all he has built at Spurs and undo all the work he has put in over 5 years, I don’t think he'd enjoy that.

Doesn’t mean it can’t happen but I struggle to see it.

 

[SpartanSpur]

If we refuse to agree compensation, what happens then? If he actually says he wants to go I don't think there's much we can do.

In that case then you simply screw Utd for as much as you can get.

But it's all hypothetical anyway, we have no idea he'd do that (force his way out). The info from Balague suggests there are no guarantees he'd go there. Only Poch knows at the end of the day.

Some of us will choose to expect the worst (usually me) some will be optimistic and others will be balanced. Personally I think he's happy here and the new stadium being close has re-energised him, and I'm someone that fully expects everything to go tits up for us.