The Mauricio Pochettino thread

[joey.leone]

shaw has just signed a new contract with sth like £160,000 a week though

Wow, kind of sums why the club is a bit of a mess at the moment. 160k a week for Luke Shaw?

Poch needs to think carefully. I am confident he will stay but I must say the media circus is quite ridiculous at the moment.

 

[mil1lion]

Why would Poch go back to the drawing board? That's what he would have to do at Utd. He would have to build from the ground up again. He would have to drill his philosophy into the club and sell players that dont fit that. Players like Pogba for example who doesn't have the right mentality for a Pochettino side. It could take years just to get to where he is with Spurs now.

People can say that he'll get huge backing in the transfer window but Mourinho didn't. Not only that but Mourinho who is a friend of Poch has just been sacked so why would he want to go there now? If they dont have the patience for him to build he wont last long there anyway.

I was listening to Neville trying to sell Utd to Poch this morning and it all sounded very desperate to me. He was talking about the front players being capable of 60-70 goals a season. Kane will score half that alone, add Son, Moura, Alli, Lamela and Eriksen to that list. I think I know which group of players I'm backing.

Yes we have to recycle our squad but that's exactly what Fergie did numerous times at Utd. People seem to think that because Fergie is his mentor it must mean he wants to manage Utd. He doesn't. He wants to achieve what Fergie did at Utd. He loves this project and everything we have helped build, and he's as excited as anyone about the new stadium.

I'm confident he will be here for a while yet. He's still a young manager so there will still be time in the future to move on if he doesn't succeed here. When that day comes I think he'll take a club that doesn't need building from the ground up again. Maybe a Man City where he can work with what they have and guarantee trophies.

That's all for the future though. The same could probably said of our youngsters too. It's really later on in your career where you really think about trophies. That's why Toby and Eriksen may leave. If we start winning trophies though it changes things for them. The youngsters including Poch (who is young in managerial terms) can continue at a club they're happy with until then.

The grass isn't always greener on the other side. If you're at the tail end of your career then you're more likely to take that chance because there's not too long left. If you're young and you're happy where you are then it's a risk not worth taking.

 

[tototoner]

Why? Is Poch taking advice from talksport pundits?

good point, it doesn't help my nerves though

 

[Lilbaz]

It is utterly disrespectful to us as a club that the football media and every ex United pundit with a mouth is saying Pochettino is the one that they should be after and should go.

I really don't think they give a fuck. They are paid to talk about it they will.

 

[dagraham]

We’re gonna lose some players anyway. This team is coming to the end of a cycle and will need to be renewed. That will be a part of his thinking.

The term “selling club” is always bandied about pejoratively in SSN, but look at Liverpool and Dortmund, both top of the league less than 12 months after selling some of their big players - Coutinho, Dembele, Aubemeyang. As long as you reinvest wisely, it’s not always a bad thing.

But the worry remains how we go about investing. The two clubs you mention don’t mess about in the market. We do.

For that reason I would argue losing key players , especially ones like Kane, Alli who costs peanuts ( or nothing in Kane’s case) will effect our club a lot more than others.

 

[dagraham]

Not to blow things completely out of proportion or anything, but I woke up in the middle of the night and was overcome by a crushing, debilitating sadness at the thought of him leaving. A dark night of the soul indeed.

Well if it’s any consolation I woke up in the middle of the night and was overcome by my 4 year old kicking me repeatedly in the fucking back.

 

[Paolo10]

Lol@going back to the drawing board.

Look at the fucking players they have! There is some serious talent there. Best keeper in the league, some of the most expensive players in the World and an almost blank cheque book that get regularly used.

Poch's achievements have increased as he's went up budgets at clubs. We need to back him if he's any chance of wanting to continue the project, Levy's door again IMO. Honestly feel he's been made promises about players and the club, stadium, transfers etc. and has likely been let down, although only Levy and Poch will know that for certain. There has been enough smoke.

(Hope he stays though!)

 

[tony0379]

If he did leave. I wouldn't blame him tbh

 

[Deleted member 27995]

I'd read some of the quotes Ben Pearce had yesterday after the main presser, bookmark them and wait until the summer.

I'd like to think that for the first time in my lifetime someone wants to take this great club forward to bring great achievement and long term success rather than walking out on us.

Guess we'll see in the summer.

 

[dagraham]

Have to admit the potential Utd vacancy has always worried me more than Real Madrid.

 

[Deleted member 27995]

If he did leave. I wouldn't blame him tbh

If he chose to leave and go to a super power outside of the prem, I agree, but to United? Nah.

 

[Chris Flynn]

From BBC, ex Utd players really pushing the boat out for Pochettino. Surely we cannot have this constantly until the summer.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/46613641


Both Paul Ince and Darren Fletcher said Tottenham boss Mauricio Pochettino is United's ideal long-term replacement for Mourinho.

Pochettino said he remains "focused" on his work at Spurs after being asked about the vacant manager's role at Old Trafford.

"He ticks all the boxes for United as he has proven at Southampton and Spurs he can develop young players; he's got an attacking style and he's had confrontations with players but dealt with it fantastically," said Fletcher.

He added the Argentine would have the chance to "build a legacy, win trophies and establish himself as one of the best managers in the world" at United.

"Spurs aren't going to win the Premier League - they are moving to a new stadium and are going to lose players to pay for it but United have the backing and resources to have a plan that incorporates winning the league," he said.

"If Pochettino has ambitions of winning things then if United come calling, he'd be more than interested."

Ince said Pochettino may wait for his "dream move" of managing Real Madrid but could be lured to United.

"As well as Spurs have done, they have not brought a lot of players in and eventually he will get tired of not getting the players he wants and not winning trophies," he added.

To be fair Paul Ince also put himself forward for the DOF job, so i wouldnt listen to his views as anything more than a bloke down the pub

 

[Trix]

I really can't


The Spurs job was pretty toxic when he left a smaller club to take that.

It wasn't. The club were all going in the same direction behind the scenes. It was the manager that was toxic, nothing more than that.

 

[TheVoiceofReason]

Poch is ambitious and I would be surprised if he wasn’t at the very least considering the idea of managing one of the very biggest clubs in the world.

But I honestly think he would hate it up there, he would get frustrated with the hierarchy, the egos, the intense pressure. The squad isn’t as bad as people are saying it is, and it wouldn’t be hard to get them playing again. However there would be a LOT of work to do to get Man U back to a standard that the fans would actually appreciate him for. The process would turn him salty. We’ve all seen salty Poch, it’s not a happy Poch.

 

[theShiznit]

About 15 hours since i checked in.

Where are we on the scale of doom this morning?

 

[LeSoupeKitchen]

It wasn't. The club were all going in the same direction behind the scenes. It was the manager that was toxic, nothing more than that.

His book suggests it was pretty toxic.

 

[dirtyh]

About 15 hours since i checked in.

Where are we on the scale of doom this morning?

Defcon 0 as per

 

[Romulus]

funny how nobody links Klopp every time a position becomes available. to be fair though Klopp would probably shut all rumours down by stating how much he wants to be liverpool manager and how honoured he is to be there. I wish Poch would do the same

 

[theShiznit]

Defcon 0 as per

 

[MarkyP]

There is a lot to be said for being happy in your job, over-achieving to an extent where you are openly coverted by others, highly respected by everyone where you are currently employed and have the trust from everyone in the organisation you are essentially the face of and have been the architect of all that has been achieved to date. MP is currently this. And has stated time and time again how happy he is at Spurs.

Yes it will be flattering for MP to be touted as a potential successor to Jose - I think you would be hard pressed to find anyone that doesn't find it flattering to be linked to a "historically" iconic club. But that's what they are currently.... historically iconic. They are not the force they once were. Not by a long shot.

As has already been mentioned by many posters - he would essentially have to start again at Utd. Go back 3 or 4 seasons on what he's achieved at Spurs. I think MP will be more motivated to achieve something at Spurs, rather than essentially trying to just get Utd back to where they were 5 or 6 years ago. He will never top what Fergie done there... but at Spurs he has the opportunity to build something that hasn't been seen for a very long time at Spurs. If ever.

that being said - anyone hoping that you get MP stating "I don't want the Job at Man Utd" - it wont happen. He doesn't need to make that statement publically. Regardless of what us, as fans want him to do.