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cookiemonster

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Absolutely mate. I've been trying to play Devil's Advocate inside my head and have tried to think of what it would take to tempt Poch away after considering all his options (if there was even a cat in hell's chance Levy would OK an approach...) and the same answer kept coming back time after time.

"Fucked if I know". Apart from being a bigger club with more fans, they have absolutely nothing over us. NOTHING.

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Much bigger club

Many more fans

Many more trophies
 
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Much bigger club

Many more fans

Many more trophies
Jose won them trophies, maybe not the league, but him won them trophies, it seems like United from top to bottom, want it all. Not sure Poch offers them that right out the gate.

Wonder how much time he is afforded?
 

degoose

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funny how nobody links Klopp every time a position becomes available. to be fair though Klopp would probably shut all rumours down by stating how much he wants to be liverpool manager and how honoured he is to be there. I wish Poch would do the same
He manages Liverpool, he would be a hated figure if he left for united.
 

gerishep

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I know mate. I already put up the thread in the opposition fans thread. This guy I’m quoting below is why I detest the dirty little manc pricks!!!

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“There is no way Pochettino says no to United in favour of Spurs.

Spurs will be an Europa League position team again very soon. They're lucky to have retained a terrific manager, some world class players. Their run is going to end - they don't have the drawing power to replace this level of quality”


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****!!!!!!
Of course we have a different view of Poch and our club but that's his view and the view of probably many others. Poch is doing the business in the PL so he will attract the attention of all the top clubs, why take a risk on a foreigner.
The way I'm looking at it is if he goes its an opportunity for us to get a top manager in who can get us over the winning line, Poch had a golden opportunity when Leicester won the PL but it ended with poor results and the battle of stamford bridge. He's also not fussed about the smaller cups well to me they are building blocks for the future.
Look every cloud has a silver lining and we are a very attractive proposition, despite what the mongs at redcafe say.
 

worcestersauce

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If all the speculation does get to him and he seriously thinks about leaving does anyone think he is a guy that is going to rush into something, am I the only one who realises that in that situation he is going to weigh up different options? I am certain he won't be going to Man Utd in the summer in fact I don't believe for one moment that he is going to leave at all in the summer, when he goes it will be in his own time on his own terms and to the club of his choosing, he is not going to jump just because an opportunity arises, particularly one that he knows will be there whenever he likes. He knows how good he is and that he has plenty of time on his side.
 

mil1lion

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Lol@going back to the drawing board.

Look at the fucking players they have! There is some serious talent there. Best keeper in the league, some of the most expensive players in the World and an almost blank cheque book that get regularly used.

Poch's achievements have increased as he's went up budgets at clubs. We need to back him if he's any chance of wanting to continue the project, Levy's door again IMO. Honestly feel he's been made promises about players and the club, stadium, transfers etc. and has likely been let down, although only Levy and Poch will know that for certain. There has been enough smoke.

(Hope he stays though!)
They do need to go back to the drawing board. They have a great group of players, a lot individual talent. They are not a great 'team' and haven't been for some time. It's like comparing the old England team against the new one. The old one had lots of great individual talent but they were never on the same page. The new England team has a togetherness and that comes from the influence of Poch and Klopp. Now that you have all these Spurs and Liverpool players around who have that 'team' mentality it rubs off on the squad. Everyone is together now.

That's the reason why big clubs recycle managers so often. It doesn't matter how many amazing players they have. If they don't have the team mentality they fail and sack the manager. It starts all over again. The only way for Utd to break that cycle is to give a manager time to build from the ground up. That's if they decide to go that direction which I don't believe they will. If they do then of course Poch is a great idea but then for Poch it's just going back 5 years to what he started at Spurs. It's a project that makes a lot more sense for Solskjaer who is pretty much where Poch was before he came here.

On the other side you then have to think about a manager wanting to leave a club. This happens a lot with managers like Pep and Jose when they win everything. It's a finished project by that point so they lose motivation to stay on. So they have to look for the next challenge. Poch still has all the motivation here. He hasn't won anything yet. If he wins something then he needs to win more. I will be more worried once he wins everything and achieves the overall objective. That's when his project is complete and he will possibly move on (but could still stay like Wenger did).

If the project fails then he may also move on, but again that will not happen for a while. He will not give up that easy, it's not in his nature. Finally the other reason to leave a club is simply because you're unhappy there. This happens when the players fall out of line and the manager losing the dressing room. It creates a horrible atmosphere and it's no longer a nice place to be. This is not going to happen at this club so we can rule that out too. I think people maybe overlook the family feel we have here which is not a small deal. Leaving that for a club who sack managers so often is a massive risk.
 

freeeki

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Absolutely mate. I've been trying to play Devil's Advocate inside my head and have tried to think of what it would take to tempt Poch away after considering all his options (if there was even a cat in hell's chance Levy would OK an approach...) and the same answer kept coming back time after time.

"Fucked if I know". Apart from being a bigger club with more fans, they have absolutely nothing over us. NOTHING.

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- A massively larger fan base
- A massively bigger club with far more prestige
- A chairman who isn't afraid to back his manager in the transfer market to the tune of almost half a billion pounds

We shouldn't kid ourselves and pretend Poch is all about the project. He loves a project, but he isn't afraid to leave one. He's done it twice already, and Spurs > United represents a similar step up to Southampton > Spurs.

That bald bastard needs to firstly swallow his pride and take a financial hit to ship the dead wood out of the club in January, and secondly put his hands in his pockets and sign a couple of players the manager actually wants.

If he fails to publicly back his manager for the second window running, it should come as no surprise to anyone to see Pochettino at United or Real next summer.
 

tototoner

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Poch is ambitious and I would be surprised if he wasn’t at the very least considering the idea of managing one of the very biggest clubs in the world.

But I honestly think he would hate it up there, he would get frustrated with the hierarchy, the egos, the intense pressure. The squad isn’t as bad as people are saying it is, and it wouldn’t be hard to get them playing again. However there would be a LOT of work to do to get Man U back to a standard that the fans would actually appreciate him for. The process would turn him salty. We’ve all seen salty Poch, it’s not a happy Poch.

i think he likes the idea of making us one of the biggest clubs in the world
 

glacierSpurs

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Why don't we stop looking at this situation as a threat to us and treat it as an opportunity to take advantage of the upheaval at United?

Poch is a big fan of Shaw, they worked very well together at Southampton, and most of us feel like we need an upgrade on Davies. So let's have a go for him in January. And whilst we're at it why not take a look at Grant as a HG replacement for Vorm, and maybe McTominay if Poch likes the look of him.

Let's stop pissing our pants and go take advantage of what's happening at Old Trafford.
You know that's why we love Poch so much right? He doesn't do this kind of things. He conducts himself in the most gentlemen manner he could.
 

wishkah

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it's the end of season appointment that really gets me.

It's clear (from the media) at least it's poch that they want. and Utd (as usual) are so twattish that they believe they'll get their man (manager, player) anyway. Annoyingly they aren't usually far off, even if this includes over-paying massively.

it does scare me that they appear to have set their target on poch (otherwise why not Zizou now?).

It all comes down to Poch accepting or declining. And their are merits to both.
 

Seafordian Spurs

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It's in (Manchester) United's interests to get Zidane on board and spend between now and August planning for next season's tilt at 4th place. Etc.
 

Darrenh61

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i think he likes the idea of making us one of the biggest clubs in the world
To achieve that Levy needs to actually buy some new players asap and ensure that Eriksen doesn't leave - my guess is that Poch will be tempted if offered the Utd job but we have a head start as he has a five year attachment, our chairman needs to ensure that he still feels he can achieve some of his ambition with us...
 

SpartanSpur

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Ultimately we know he will go at some point in the future but we are all hoping there is integrity &this is after he has achieved with us. I think it would be massively out of character and totally against his values if he went to utd however sadly nothing surprises me anymore

Little titbit from JJ on twitter. Tends to tie in with my own feelings. Not going to reassure anyone already panicking but nice for those of us with faith in him and what he's said in the past.

Also can we please stop comparing the Southampton situation to us, it's nothing alike (Cortese sacked and asset stripping). If anything him signing a new deal despite being Real Madrid's #1 target is much more relevant, he would have been well aware of the RM interest.

I don't think leaving Southampton is a knock on his loyalty, but it does reaffirm that Levy needs to back him in Jan and in the summer with transfers and contracts.
 
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